I already admitted that 7 gated Gai had better striking speed than Minato on my first post. What i don't agree with however is that he has better reactions than him. Pay in mind that during the start of his offensive against Madara Jin, Madara never striked back. To notice the reaction speed of someone is when he is actually attacked. Madara on the other side was only dodging from the back. When he actually attacked(to cut down Gai's Hirudora), he did it so fast Gai didn't even have time to complete the Hirudora and was sent relying before he even noticed
You don't still get it.
Madara never struck back because of his striking speed. However when he blocked Gai the first time, he wasn't given the chance to react because Gai could move fast enough to react and land another strike.
Let me give you an example here:
Minato stikes Juubito and Juubito reacts by blocking the attack:
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. Shortly after, Minato is unable to react during that period and only reacts after Obito strikes him
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Gai strikes Madara, Madara blocks him but Madara is unable to strike back like he did to Minato because Gai reacts fast enough to deliver another strike keeping Madara on the defensive and unable to counter back. Madara did strike Gai's attack when Gai landed to use the hand seal and if you look well in the middle of this scan
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, you'll see Gai's last movement where he physically landed down before Madara could and uses the hand seal for the technique. That's when Madara could use his staff to strike back after Gai paused which shows before he couldn't at all. That alone should convince you considering he could pause right in from of the Jin and use the hand seal for the attack before the Jin could land.
Many times in the Manga it has been shown: Kisame tries to hit Gai, Gai reacts and then strikes back in the 6G. Ay tries to hit Minato, Minato reacts and then nearly strikes back(B intervened). Minato tried to hit Juubito, Juubito reacts and then strikes back. Gai tries to hit Madara, Madara reacts but is unable to strike back. Minato tries to hit Madara, Madara reacts by striking back with Minato not being able to react.
Gai's case is different because he's fast enough to move and react with a strike avoiding a counterattack.
Gai couldn't react to Naruto's shunshin, something Kakashi compared to Minato's [
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I hope you know that's Base Gai. Not to mention that's Naruto coming right from his back which he had no idea on.
You said it yourself. It increases his physical capacities only. Nowhere is it stated that Gates upgrade his reactions. With this in mind, there is no reason for me to assume he can react to Minato's shunshin or Hiraishin if he couldn't to Naruto's that was compared to Minato's speed
That's Base Gai that you're talking about int that scan.
- Naruto came from his back to deflect something in front of him
- That scan is not a legit reaction fail since Gai isn't the one Naruto's coming for.
If I go by what you're saying, I'll be here saying Base Gai has better reactions than KCM Naruto in a CQC since Gai prevented Obito from touching him after swinging his Sohsuga
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while Naruto couldn't react to Obito to touching him
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after using his chakra arms. That sounds better than what you said but instead, I can't use that as a legit feat since it's not really a consistent comparison.
The Gates increase your physical capabilities meaning naturally he's better in every single physical department than his Base form and that includes reaction speed. Unless you want to say something like Base Gai can react to Amaterasu or can replicate what 7G Gai did against Madara.
Him being able to physically keep up and a Jin being unable to strike him at that point due to his striking and reaction speed should tell you Minato's only chance is catching him off guard when he has no idea of his position or something like that. If Minato come head on, he dies as he's no match in a CQC.
And this is where i disagree. All what i concede is on the part his attack speed is fast enough to surpass Madara jin's precognition. However, i disagree with him having faster reactions than Minato. Gai's reactions are roughly on par with Sharingan Kakashi [
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You're using the 6G. That's vastly inferior to the 7G..Not to mention you're wrong with your 6G comparison.
- There were 3 Bijuus against Gai and Kakashi.
- Kakashi missed against that very Bijuu that hit them both in the bottom of this scan
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- Next scan that same Bijuu uses its tail to hit both Gai and Kakashi despite Gai not being its opponent . How's that a fair comparison?
- Both of them reacted but got pushed back by the force of the attack, how does that show that they're equal in terms of reactions because they both reacted? Just like saying Kurama uses its tail to smack Hashirama and Tobirama but because they both react, their reaction speed equal to each other.
You think 6G Gai is equal to Kakashi in terms of reaction(I'm ignoring you're implying in the 7G). Clearly false.
