3 Tomoe Madara vs Kakashi

[miromiro]

Good lord, read the title. 3T Madara.

Having 3 Tomoe doesn't mean you can't have Mokuton. You could be right about EMS since they're not tomoes anymore, but since there's no mention of Mokuton being restricted, and since Madara had it when he was alive, it counts.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Pretty sure this is alive Madara.

 

[Touken]

Having 3 Tomoe doesn't mean you can't have Mokuton. You could be right about EMS since they're not tomoes anymore, but since there's no mention of Mokuton being restricted, and since Madara had it when he was alive, it counts.

3 Tomoe Madara means we're referring to the state he was in before he awakened his Mangekyo Sharingan. He didn't have Mokuton then.

And I've already said that if Madara does have it then he wins.

 

[miromiro]

3 Tomoe Madara means we're referring to the state he was in before he awakened his Mangekyo Sharingan. He didn't have Mokuton then.

And I've already said that if Madara does have it then he wins.

It isn't anywhere mention what time we're referring to. He's still able to use the simple 3 Tomoe Sharingan even at this point in Manga, so Mokuton 100% counts.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Talk about wanking over hiding like a mole, if Gokakyuu us used that might not even work considering the sizeeat and destructive power. Your guys also seem to forget that Madaras 3T predicts better than Kakashi and he is one of few uchiha that have a incredible amount of chakra. Kakashi on the other hand isnt bless with such chakra reserves and thus can not product all the jutsu necessary to counter Madara.

@Paetu: So your telling me that going up against Hahsirama in battle with kenjustu is considered a fodder attribute? To say they were fodder is a poor speculation since everyone in those times grew up in war. Madara even said modern ninja slack under the standard he is used to.

 

[Touken]

It isn't anywhere mention what time we're referring to. He's still able to use the simple 3 Tomoe Sharingan even at this point in Manga, so Mokuton 100% counts.

Then OP would have said 'Madara vs. Kakashi ... Restrictions: Kamui, EMS, MS & Mokuton'. Instead he wrote 3T Madara. He's referring to pre-MS Madara.

 

[Tartarus]

Madara, all Kakashi can do his hide underground as far as I can see

 

[pateuvasiliu]

@Paetu: So your telling me that going up against Hahsirama in battle with kenjustu is considered a fodder attribute?

Offpanel feats?

Yeah.

 

[Touken]

Yeah, I don't think Madara would use a Juubi sized Katon in a 1v1. No one else has ever shown to do this (in a 1v1) because it's illogical.

The only reason Madara & Obito used a large scale Katon was because they were going up against the entire SA.

Madara didn't use that in a 5v1 and he sure as hell isn't going to use it in a 1v1.

It also can be countered with a simple Water Wall.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Offpanel feats?

Yeah.

So your prepared to disregard all facts even though we wasnt shown it? It was never shown that tsunade can break a cement wall but we know she can do it. Going off the facts we have i would say the ninja back in the days fodder is stronger than current fodder since they are rasied in war.

 

[Tartarus]

Yeah, I don't think Madara would use a Juubi sized Katon in a 1v1. No one else has ever shown to do this (in a 1v1) because it's illogical.

The only reason Madara & Obito used a large scale Katon was because they were going up against the entire SA.

Madara didn't use that in a 5v1 and he sure as hell isn't going to use it in a 1v1.

It also can be countered with a simple Water Wall.

why not? It's not its his ultimate move. Inferno Annihilation is a jutsu he's used more casually than any other attack.
It took an entire squad of ninja using water wall to counter Madara katon. What are talking about?

 

[Bogard]

Kakashi mid difficulty. He is better than Madara in almost everything. His great ninjutsu versatility will be the decisive factor over his win

 

[Tartarus]

Offpanel feats?

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Dem off-panel feats

 

[Touken]

Has Hashirama shown anything impressive taijutsu-wise?

 

[TheTailedSage]

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Dem off-panel feats

When he said off panel feats i think he meant more taijutsu because i thought it was painfully obvious that he's shown kenjutsu feats LOL unless he was unaware of them

 

[Unorthodox]

madara wins this kakashi has nothing to compete with his katon nor can he keep up madara with ninjatools & Gunbai barrier madara low diff

 

[End of Days]

raikiri infused kunai blows a hole in madara and his weapons

 

[miromiro]

Then OP would have said 'Madara vs. Kakashi ... Restrictions: Kamui, EMS, MS & Mokuton'. Instead he wrote 3T Madara. He's referring to pre-MS Madara.

As I said, he is able to use only 3 Tomoes Sharingan now as well. 3 Tomoe Madara doesn't hint us to a moment in time, but to a fighting way. For example, if he said Edo Madara we would have know that only the feats in this war arc are the ones he means, but since he didn't mention it, it doesn't count. As I said, 3 Tomoe Madara can be even before his death.

And if you're really that unhappy with Mokuton, fine. See the taijutsu in the Madara vs Shinobi Alliance fight, 1 vs 1000. Kakashi has an implanted Sharingan in only one eye, Madara is a pure Uchiha with both eyes awakened normally, he'd beat Kakashi easily. Then there's Katon in which Madara shitstomps Kakashi.

 

[Draegod]

Mud wall counters all fire Jutsu used except one used by madara (wonder how many of you know which fire Jutsu). Hiding like a mole avoids any major fire Jutsu with a large AoE. Lightning clone used at the right time can win it. Madara and that fan counters Lblade, dang... If played right it can go either way

 

[Unorthodox]

Mud wall counters all fire Jutsu used except one used by madara (wonder how many of you know which fire Jutsu). Hiding like a mole avoids any major fire Jutsu with a large AoE. Lightning clone used at the right time can win it. Madara and that fan counters Lblade, dang... If played right it can go either way

people really using the mole tech like its impressive madara would see the chakra underground also gunbai barrier blocks any ration attack