2nd Mizukage vs Minato

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and? minato still has no way real method of countering the genjutsu,
he gets killed before he lands a rasengan,

Not sure why you brought this back but I already addressed the clam. Puts his finger on the ground and senses it's location. Brining down the house busts it open. Genjutsu over.
 

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Minato can't find the clam. Nor can he hurt Gengetsu.

Not sure why you brought this back but I already addressed the clam. Puts his finger on the ground and senses it's location. Brining down the house busts it open. Genjutsu over.

Nope that's not how it works. Putting his finger to the ground merely tells him how many opponents there are in the proximate area, it does not tell him exactly where his opponent is. Not to mention he was no way of actually injuring Gengetsu, rasengan is not doing anything to him if he hydrificates.
 
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Not sure why you brought this back but I already addressed the clam. Puts his finger on the ground and senses it's location. Brining down the house busts it open. Genjutsu over.

normal sensing means dont work against the clam,
so finger sensing is not helping here,

by the time minato even figures the genjutsu out, the mizukage would use the water bullet to blow his head
 

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Fact: Minato can't win unless the Mizukage reveals his secret
 

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normal sensing means dont work against the clam,
so finger sensing is not helping here,

by the time minato even figures the genjutsu out, the mizukage would use the water bullet to blow his head

Finger sensing is physical sensing and that's what's effective against the clam.

Really? Water Gun? How will he ever hit Minato with it? The only person he ever managed to hit with that was Onoki when his back have out and he was paralyzed and even that was just a clone. Minato does not need FTG to even avoid that either.
 

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Finger sensing is physical sensing and that's what's effective against the clam.
No its not, only contact sensing works on the clam,
finger sensing is based on what the user can percieve, its not different from any normal sensing that is based on sensing chakra or presense
however the clam itself is hidden within the mirage,
minatos abilities themselves wont change by the genjutsu but what he percieves would be, therefore hes not locating it
Really? Water Gun? How will he ever hit Minato with it? The only person he ever managed to hit with that was Onoki when his back have out and he was paralyzed and even that was just a clone. Minato does not need FTG to even avoid that either.
Since the water gun woould be hidden behind the mirage, thats why itll hit minato
minato is not dodging something that he cant even see, regardless of his speed
 
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