2nd Mizukage vs Minato

[Beans2]

Replace Gaara with Minato during the fight with the 2nd Mizukage. Edo regeneration is restricted.

Edit: According to databook the 2nd Mizukage's actual name is Gengetsu Hozuki. So it seems like he doesn't need to go by the alias of "2nd Mizukage" or "Trollkage"

 

[Unorthodox]

If Minato has the help Gaara he should win without i see the mizukage winning more times than not unless minato fanfic sage mode abilities come into play

 

[Icelerate]

Minato can't find 2nd Mizukage's clam.

2nd Mizukage wins mid difficulty.

 

[ARGUS]

Second Mizukage wins this high diff

 

[Valhorus]

Minato blitzes ajd kills the troll instantly .

 

[Penguin]

Minato wins this.

 

[Bogard]

Minato mid difficulty without help. Considering he had knowledge concerning previous generation of Kages like Tobirama, Madara and co, it's highly likely he had knowledge concerning the 2nd Mizukage as well, but assuming it's not the case, he would surely be confused at first by the genjutsu, but he should rapidely deduct he is inside a genjutsu after his first hit attack won't work especially considering his normal sensing ability won't help him to find Mizukage or his clam at all due to fake illusionary positions of the targets.

His finger sensing however seems related to ground vibration, so he should be able to locate the clam with it via contact sensing. Assuming it's not the case(and that he can't), he can still summon Ma ermite who possess a all living creature(whether invisible or not) tracking ability, which should allow him to find it faster. After it gets raped, there is no match anymore

 

[Unorthodox]

If Minato has the help Gaara had he should win without i see the mizukage winning more times than not unless minato fanfic sage mode abilities come into play

 

[Gold Lightning]

Shima solos. Clam can't hide from her.

 

[Xlad]

Minato...

Yeah

 

[TheEvilOne]

Minato shits, obviously. His boss toads can find the clam effortlessly. Then they kill them clam, Minato shits on the Nidaime.

 

[Nattana]

Minato shits, obviously. His boss toads can find the clam effortlessly. Then they kill them clam, Minato shits on the Nidaime.

They can't find the clam when they're being constantly put in its Genjutsu.

 

[TheEvilOne]

They can't find the clam when they're being constantly put in its Genjutsu.

Doesn't matter. They are pretty huge, so they should be able to find it easily. As I remember it was stated the mizukage has to keep his clam close to him, or else the illusion won't work.

+ the clam is stationary, so it can't even change its location.

 

[Beans2]

Minato mid difficulty without help. Considering he had knowledge concerning previous generation of Kages like Tobirama, Madara and co, it's highly likely he had knowledge concerning the 2nd Mizukage as well, but assuming it's not the case, he would surely be confused at first by the genjutsu, but he should rapidely deduct he is inside a genjutsu after his first hit attack won't work especially considering his normal sensing ability won't help him to find Mizukage or his clam at all due to fake illusionary positions of the targets.

His finger sensing however seems related to ground vibration, so he should be able to locate the clam with it via contact sensing. Assuming it's not the case(and that he can't), he can still summon Ma ermite who possess a all living creature(whether invisible or not) tracking ability, which should allow him to find it faster. After it gets raped, there is no match anymore

Seems like overall good points. Except -

1. While Minato is still figuring out the clam's genjutsu and how it works, the real Mizukage (whose presence is hidden by the clam's genjutsu

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) can sneak up behind him and snipe him with a water bullet

2. Minato won't be able to effectively tag the Mizukage due to his water body (same technique as Suigetsu's), since the Mizukage can just "shed" that part of his body off by removing the water from the tagged area.

3. Joki Boy can be summoned as a distraction to prevent Minato from focusing on the genjutsu, and rather fight the steam clone. Boss summons can't do much against Joki Boy since it is far too fast for toads to keep up with and its steam explosion either kills or injures them. While Minato is occupied with detecting the clam, Joki Boy can

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limiting the number of places Minato can teleport to, or if Minato chooses to Focus on Joki Boy, the invisible Mizukage scoops up the kunais. Minato's kunai slashes and rasengans probably aren't capable of putting down Joki Boy in any sort of way. Trollkage can also wash away the kunais with his oil. The location is a desert so FTG markings on the sand will be broken apart by the oil once it seeps in through the sand.

4. He can't summon Shima unless he knows about the necessary blood summoning which he must draw on his face and the special summoning ritual needed to summon an Elder Sage, which requires holding his hands together for several minutes.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The hard part will be the genjutsu, but Minato can summon the toad sages over time, which means they'll be able to detect it like they did Pain's chameleon)

After that, it's a fairly easy victory for Minato. He can certainly buy enough time to summon the sage toads by FTGing out of there temporarily.

 

[super yang]

Seems like overall good points. Except -

1. While Minato is still figuring out the clam's genjutsu and how it works, the real Mizukage (whose presence is hidden by the clam's genjutsu

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) can sneak up behind him and snipe him with a water bullet

2. Minato won't be able to effectively tag the Mizukage due to his water body (same technique as Suigetsu's), since the Mizukage can just "shed" that part of his body off by removing the water from the tagged area.

3. Joki Boy can be summoned as a distraction to prevent Minato from focusing on the genjutsu, and rather fight the steam clone. Boss summons can't do much against Joki Boy since it is far too fast for toads to keep up with and its steam explosion either kills or injures them. While Minato is occupied with detecting the clam, Joki Boy can

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limiting the number of places Minato can teleport to, or if Minato chooses to Focus on Joki Boy, the invisible Mizukage scoops up the kunais. Minato's kunai slashes and rasengans probably aren't capable of putting down Joki Boy in any sort of way. Trollkage can also wash away the kunais with his oil. The location is a desert so FTG markings on the sand will be broken apart by the oil once it seeps in through the sand.

4. He can't summon Shima unless he knows about the necessary blood summoning which he must draw on his face and the special summoning ritual needed to summon an Elder Sage, which requires holding his hands together for several minutes.

1. shadow clones & hiraishin remedy this as a matter of course, in character

2. no sir, seals are intangible, chakra-based & chakra-designated. I flatly dismiss your assertion

3. joki boi/mizukage gets sealed faster if he is holding the kunai, & joki boi is a taxing ninjutsu, not-applicable w/ the yin release anyway

4. I agree , but minato wins w/o that duo

 

[Beans2]

1. shadow clones & hiraishin remedy this as a matter of course, in character

2. no sir, seals are intangible, chakra-based & chakra-designated. I flatly dismiss your assertion

3. joki boi/mizukage gets sealed faster if he is holding the kunai, & joki boi is a taxing ninjutsu, not-applicable w/ the yin release anyway

4. I agree , but minato wins w/o that duo

1. How will Minato detect the Miuzkage if the clam makes him invisible? Clones just throw away chakra since they can't detect him either.

2. Minato cannot mark something that is liquid...if he does get marked he sheds it off. Its easiest for me to explain in pictures

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3. what do you mean? which seal does minato use to seal joki boy, and how can he do it quickly enough before Joki Boy stabs him or explodes. @Bold I'd like to hear more about that please explain

 

[super yang]

^where is the link to that illustration?

clones don't waste chakra, they split it then return it after dispelling

one of minatos seals/ the five point seal/the seal oro & jiraiya tweaked

 

[Beans2]

^where is the link to that illustration?

It's a picture rather unrelated to the purpose I used it for, it's this one

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. Basically trying to explain how the 2nd Mizukage deals with being marked by a FTG seal - he sheds off the marking with the water from his liquid body.

clones don't waste chakra, they split it then return it after dispelling

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it was a "waste of chakra" for hiruzen, whether the clones get extinguished or not. what scans are there that support the bold?

one of minatos seals/ the five point seal/the seal oro & jiraiya tweaked

A contract seal can be used to seperate the control a summoner has over his summoning, or affect a contract one being has with another. Five pronged seal and contract seal won't affect an inanimate object like Joki Boy which is composed of oil and water

 

[Ultimate Beast]

Minato is one of the smartest characters in the series so im sure he will win. Minato wins mid diff