2nd Mizukage vs Minato

[super yang]

It's a picture rather unrelated to the purpose I used it for, it's this one

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. Basically trying to explain how the 2nd Mizukage deals with being marked by a FTG seal - he sheds off the marking with the water from his liquid body.

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it was a "waste of chakra" for hiruzen, whether the clones get extinguished or not. what scans are there that support the bold?



A contract seal can be used to seperate the control a summoner has over his summoning, or affect a contract one being has with another. Five pronged seal and contract seal won't affect an inanimate object like Joki Boy which is composed of oil and water

1. whatsitnow? I need to read what happened, sir. we've seen seals being used mid-air & on top of sand & water. even mobile seals...the inconsistency train is now boarding passengers

2. No, a ''waste' in that he doesn't have the stamina to use it(multiple chakra/clones) effectively while split.
Hiruzen will tire out from using the jutsu. that scan doesn't speak anything to the bolded claim either way.
U can play w/ ur translation...

if clones split chakra evenly, but it didn't return along w/ the mental experience, we'd have a massive paradox.
that does seem to be the case w/ elemental clones tho'

3. joki boi isn't an inanimate object, but a static chakra construct(like when seals r applied to barriers). they should disrupt the jutsu

 

[LuckyMan]

His clam can be sensed by with contact/physical sensing.

Minato puts his finger on the ground, gets its location.
Bringing Down the House on the Clam, busting it.
Gengetsu (though I will still call him TrollKage, such a cool name) gets blitzed with Hirashin Rasengan.

Case closed.

P.S. You're making too many threads.

 

[TRE MERCER]

This could go either way honestly...

His clam can be sensed by with contact/physical sensing.

Minato puts his finger on the ground, gets its location.
Bringing Down the House on the Clam, busting it.
Gengetsu (though I will still call him TrollKage, such a cool name) gets blitzed with Hirashin Rasengan.

Case closed.

P.S. You're making too many threads.

How is a Rasengan going to hurt someone who body is water?

 

[LuckyMan]

How is a Rasengan going to hurt someone who body is water?

Only physical attacks won't work on him. Rasengan is a chakra based attack so it should do to him what Bees TBB did to Suigetsu. It does not need to be as powerful as Bees TBB because Suigetsu was scaled really big (same size as Hachibi) but in this case Gengetsu is regular size so regular Rasengans (aka TBB) should recreate the same effect. A few of

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pumpkin-sized babies should do the trick.

 

[Draegod]

Joki boi is the only thing in the manga that is a Solid, Liquid and Gas at the same time thus the term infinite explosion because he has no limit on how much he can be destroyed and reform. That's what makes the jutsu Broken; It can explode and expand at will any second, and can create blades/weapons to aid if need be. Minato has no counter for Joki boi and def cannot put the mizukage down with anything he has ever shown. Simply a bad match up.

 

[AshurSeku]

FTG Level 3: KILLS WITH EASE SPIRALING WOLF

 

[super yang]

Joki boi is the only thing in the manga that is a Solid, Liquid and Gas at the same time thus the term infinite explosion because he has no limit on how much he can be destroyed and reform. That's what makes the jutsu Broken; It can explode and expand at will any second, and can create blades/weapons to aid if need be. Minato has no counter for Joki boi and def cannot put the mizukage down with anything he has ever shown. Simply a bad match up.

joki boi is a ninjutsu.
if minato tags the exhausted trollkage while he's trying to hide in vain, then starts a serial rasengN combo on him, joki boi ends.
''infinite'' is a reference to the automatic nature of thie jutsu; its not even some hyperbole in this case. but its still a jutsu, and is no more ''infinite'' than a normal shadow clone

 

[Great Master Minato]

Mizukage Is Dead Before He Realize Anything...Shunshin Blitz As Simple As That...

 

[Apêx1]

Mizukage mid-high diff.

 

[Draegod]

joki boi is a ninjutsu.
if minato tags the exhausted trollkage while he's trying to hide in vain, then starts a serial rasengN combo on him, joki boi ends.
''infinite'' is a reference to the automatic nature of thie jutsu; its not even some hyperbole in this case. but its still a jutsu, and is no more ''infinite'' than a normal shadow clone

You misinterpret what I meant by "infinite" and took it literal instead of figurative. It is "infinite" in the sense that as long as the mizukage is alive and willing the Clone is active and thus exploding and reforming.

Minato literally has nothing that would even make him laugh. This is a mismatch and easy win for the Mizukage im afraid. Genjutsu plus Water bullet ends him before he figures anything out. And depending on the environment depends on how fast the mizukage wins; If water is near by, it is rape action 101. If sand/grass plain and the likes are around it is no more then mid diff. If its in the city were concrete and what not, its no higher then high diff. Either way The mizukage wins every single time!

 

[TRE MERCER]

Only physical attacks won't work on him. Rasengan is a chakra based attack so it should do to him what Bees TBB did to Suigetsu. It does not need to be as powerful as Bees TBB because Suigetsu was scaled really big (same size as Hachibi) but in this case Gengetsu is regular size so regular Rasengans (aka TBB) should recreate the same effect. A few of

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pumpkin-sized babies should do the trick.

Terrible example ill explain why... One the Rasengan won't just explode like how Bee did his TBB if it was in ball form it would have flew right through him which is the reason he used a blast tbb... Minato's Rasengan doesn't have a human sized Aoe up on explosion... Plus Minato would just fly right through him with the rasengan in his hand... Joki boy shits on Minato as well...

 

[Blackdeath667]

interesting match up

 

[Conspirator.]

With killing intent, the Mizukage takes it with low diff.

-The Mizukage literally told the alliance about his clam genjutsu, but still shat on them. Even for someone as smart as Minato, it will takes a bit of time to figure out what's going on.
-In the time when Minato is under the genjutsu, the mizukage fires a water gun through his skull and kills him. FTG blitz is tanked via the Hozuki's water body.

 

[LuckyMan]

Terrible example ill explain why... One the Rasengan won't just explode like how Bee did his TBB if it was in ball form it would have flew right through him which is the reason he used a blast tbb... Minato's Rasengan doesn't have a human sized Aoe up on explosion... Plus Minato would just fly right through him with the rasengan in his hand... Joki boy shits on Minato as well...

You do know Rasengan is a explosive attack right...... right?

 

[Beans2]

His clam can be sensed by with contact/physical sensing.

Minato puts his finger on the ground, gets its location.
Bringing Down the House on the Clam, busting it.
Gengetsu (though I will still call him TrollKage, such a cool name) gets blitzed with Hirashin Rasengan.

Case closed.

P.S. You're making too many threads.

As long as they are good matchups, I don't see any reason why I should stop making threads. Trying to keep this section alive.

 

[super yang]

You do know Rasengan is a explosive attack right...... right?

yeah, they're going out of their way to favor a supposed bad match up when it just is not the case.

kisame & gaara r bad matches 4 tobirama/minato, not trollkage

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Mizukage wins. He was trolling the whole alliance, still they couldn't figure out shit. He literally told them every bit of his trick, and got frustrated later on

Genjutsu and water bullet will be the deciding factor.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You do know Rasengan is a explosive attack right...... right?

Only when it hits something solid which the Mizukage won't be...

 

[Haizaki]

I'm enjoying BAC2's threads. It keeps the section alive.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm enjoying BAC2's threads. It keeps the section alive.

Off topic but it's much better than madvictory terrible threads...