1st hokage vs 4th hokage
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actually no!.. if not for kishuna he would not been able to do reaper death seal period!!!!! and tobi/madara didnt even use izanagi, ninjutsu, taijutsu, he played with the 4th with chains, and that is it. the battle was weak as hell but yet most of the noobs (not talking about you in particular) think that fight was epic and the best fight ever. smh.. oh yea, also the 3rd hokage and a bunch of koinin had manage to hold back the fox as well so dont go saying he handled tobi and the fox "well" when he had hepl from well, everybody. and that my friend is a fact. although he did save them, if not for there fight with the fox the village would of been destroyed when 4th was fighting tobi. also he knew he couldnt defeat tobi, if he could he would of instead of doing rasengan he could of did a boss like move for the win. the 4th knew he had to entrust the future to naruto, because he knew he wouldnt have been enough..ye he tamed the fix, but if he would battle it he would lose big time
and minato was actually doing well against it and madara
the 4th is a great ninja but most of the ppl on this site D ride him so hard it aint even funny no more.. we havent even seen much from him or anything really special but yet ya'll seem to think he is the closest thing to being a god.. smh.. (not you in particular)
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well we've never seen the actual fight between Madara & the 1st so we don't know that he "bested" Madara , i know from highlights it was a pretty damn epic fight , but nowhere does it say Madara was pumbled , and personally i don't think the 4th was having a hard time , he didn't take any hits or anything till the fox tried killing Naruto.
The obvious answer would be the 4th, but I gotta go with the 1st on this one mainly because he was the first person 2 actually defeat Madara in battle and 2 be able 2 control 7 tailed beasts at once is a feat on its own, and the fact that he built the leaf village and its structures, well enough said
mainly because he was the first person 2 actually defeat Madara in battle and 2 be able 2 control 7 tailed beasts at once is a feat on its own, and the fact that he built the leaf village and its structures, well enough said 
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uchiha yahiko
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yeah, the first was the strongest, but Minato probably would have been able to surpass him if he hadn't sacrificed himself
Minato will pwnz 1st even if that darkness shit is on .. can you remeber that minato can find the exact position of everyone around just by pressing his index finger against the ground.. and if minato mark the 1st with the FTG's seal he can locate him everywhere. I thing that Hashirama Senju is overrated.. He was so strong just because of his ability to control the tailed beast and altering the battlefield. Yondaime is by far the fastest ninja we have encountered.
so just because your fast u win every fight???? noob response. if anything minato is the most overated character ever. you and others dont know what he can really do and assume he can do billions of things with just ftg. even minato want rely on just one move , but the sad thing is thats all yall have to go on.lol get off the mans tip. the 1st united a bunch of clans, shared the bijuu, saved the village from madara and the fox, literaly created the village, made his wife the kyubi jinjuriki, had wood style, respected by every ninja till this day. and you call him overated??? get out of here the man deserves everyones respect! minato just saved the village once (and it was the village that helped him fyi) and all of a sudden he's GOD! lmao reread the manga pls
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the 4th.. it would be a really intense fight though. it would be hard to capture the fourth in any wood jutsu. but im sure the 1st alot of other great jutsu. best situation for the 4th would be placing the seal on the first which wouldnt be hard... best scenario for 1st would bve infinite darkness at the beginning of the fight. it all depends, but i think the 4th would win
and to whoever said the hashirama was bettert cuz he was first is a noob.. thats the worst reason ever, because obviously none of the other kages were alive at his time to compete, except for maybe the 2nd
and to whoever said the hashirama was bettert cuz he was first is a noob.. thats the worst reason ever, because obviously none of the other kages were alive at his time to compete, except for maybe the 2nd
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not that hard actually. he could place a seal to wear he is.. use the ftg to his kunai, and go right back to his seal. in like 15 seconds
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for once math is wrong cuz 1>4 lol
i think it is first hokage all the way =3
i hate how ppl overrate 4 hokage tho
if u really want to know... ask the ninetailed fox or madara im sure they could both tell u the first (cuz they both got pwned by him XD)
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madara's knowledge of them > than what little we have seen of them
and madara seems to respect first more cuz all i sawz the 4th doing was hitting him once with rasengan and madara retreating cuz he broke the jutsu and didnt feel like fighting him anymore nuff said
i think it is first hokage all the way =3
i hate how ppl overrate 4 hokage tho
if u really want to know... ask the ninetailed fox or madara im sure they could both tell u the first (cuz they both got pwned by him XD)
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madara's knowledge of them > than what little we have seen of them
and madara seems to respect first more cuz all i sawz the 4th doing was hitting him once with rasengan and madara retreating cuz he broke the jutsu and didnt feel like fighting him anymore nuff said
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DeathPulse16
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Wtf!?!?! The 1st is def not overrated. I don't see nor hear his name everytime i go to the damn forums page. Minato is a different case. It's people like you guys that make it so i hate these characters. I liked minato until he became nearly as overrated as naruto himself. Like Draegod said, you people are riding his and narutos balls so hard it's pitiful. We don't even know what the 4th can do, hell, we dont even know what the 1st can do but if we go on what we know about these two characters then anyone with common sense could easily see that the 1st would win this fight. You need more than speed to win, people think because minato has rasengan and ftg that he's beast and can beat everyone, that is plain ignorance. A fight is not won by just speed people. Like i said, its because people on here worship minato and naruto that it makes me hate these characters guts. The sad part is that people won't even admit they're fanboys when they obviously are. My point is, look at the facts that we KNOW about these characters and the first def wins, sorry minato lovers but he doesn't cut it. Now, im going to be flamed but whatever.
mookyuzamaki
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couldnt have said it any better my self dude speed os nothin damn this isnt dragon ball z where who ever is faster and stronger wins its who's ever gots the guts and brains that win
