1st hokage vs 4th hokage

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the fourth obviously
 

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idk the first was really strong too with his wood element, i'd think we'd have to see it. but im not exactly sure if alot is known about his jutsu
 

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ok time to put a lil light on the situation yeah the 4th has alot of flashy jutus but what will he do against infinite darkness jutus yeah he beat madara when he was weak and all batered up but he deff wont see madara at his prime and he had a tough fight against the fox the 1sth tamed that fox like nothing
 

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isn't infinte darkness the seconds?
 

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and he could trap minato in Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees
 

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isn't infinte darkness the seconds?

nope its the first and second its called, bringer of darkness tech. but it was only in the manga for first and anime for the second
 
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oh my b but yeah the 1st and the 2nd developed the jutus lol whats all the teleporting gonna do u when u cant see nothing
 

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Minato is awesome and would put up a good fight but the first defeated Madara so therefor since I don't have proof of their abilities I can't say Minato would win
 

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He was the 1st Hokage for a reason

and the fourth became the Hokage because he was compared to the other Hokages to see if he was good enough, so he either has to be as good as, or better than, the first, second, and DEFINATLY the third, because he took the thirds job from him while he was still alive, and since Kishi said that the third (in his prime) was the strongest, and the fourth was good enough to take the thirds job while he was living, that tells you something about relative power, doesn't it?
 

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sure, and infinate darkness dosnt just make the whole world dark. its only a certain area. so all he'd need to do was teleport outa the darkness
 

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when did kishi ever say that? and to be kage is to the strongest ninja in the village at the time dont forget that and its straight up who can control tailed beast if u cant control a beast then ur not even in comparison with the 1st
 

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yeah but what happens when the first starts makin his forest every where sooner or later he is gonna catch the 4th and along the way he is probably gonna be destroying his thunder god talismans
 

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and if he could just teleport out dont u think madara would have done that cuz im pretty sure he used it against him
 
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