It's to avenge his family, not to avenge himself. = Sasuke is infinitely selfless. You just don't like him.Stabbing Karin..? All of this is for his OWN revenge. He is a little selfish theres no denying that.
It's to avenge his family, not to avenge himself. = Sasuke is infinitely selfless. You just don't like him.Stabbing Karin..? All of this is for his OWN revenge. He is a little selfish theres no denying that.
I have absolutely no problems with Sasuke. He is one of my favorite characters, so dont assume you know my preferences based on one comment where i did nothing but state the truth. Revenge in itself is a selfish act. Please explain to me how stabbing Karin just to wound Danzo isnt an extremely selfish act. Id love to hear your explanation.It's to avenge his family, not to avenge himself. = Sasuke is infinitely selfless. You just don't like him.
Post #156I have absolutely no problems with Sasuke. He is one of my favorite characters, so dont assume you know my preferences based on one comment where i did nothing but state the truth. Revenge in itself is a selfish act. Please explain to me how stabbing Karin just to wound Danzo isnt an extremely selfish act. Id love to hear your explanation.
Sorry but his instantaneous consent to Obito's demand after she helped him win the fight with Danzo and had saved his life more than once is beyond selfish. He used her for what she was worth, and then didnt hesitate to try and kill her. Making him both a killer and selfish.Post #156
Not really, she was given a choice when she was recruited. Sasuke made it clear to all of them, that they were mere tools for his revenge, just before Sasuke fought Itachi. A tool is meant to serve its purpose and get trashed when it can serve no further. They knew what they were in for, Sasuke never lied to them or cheated them, in fact, they were free to leave whenever they pleased.Sorry but his instantaneous consent to Obito's demand after she helped him win the fight with Danzo and had saved his life more than once is beyond selfish. He used her for what she was worth, and then didnt hesitate to try and kill her. Making him both a killer and selfish.
He never showed any care towards any of them really and thats justified because he told them beforehand that he was going to use them as tools? Is that not selfish? Revenge has always been on his mind since the beginning of the series to satisfy his own desires. He was willing to do anything to achieve that goal including severing ties with friends regardless of how much it hurt them. He decided to go with Oro after he nearly caused the destruction of his entire home village. Just for more power to satisfy his own goals. He is a selfish character. Calling him selfless is an absolute joke.Not really, she was given a choice when she was recruited. Sasuke made it clear to all of them, that they were mere tools for his revenge, just before Sasuke fought Itachi. A tool is meant to serve its purpose and get trashed when it can serve no further. They knew what they were in for, Sasuke never lied to them or cheated them, in fact, they were free to leave whenever they pleased.
Tools for the realisation of his goal, which was retribution for his family, not for himself. He is an avenger, he is out to avenge their deaths. Sasuke's true home was his house with his parents and brother, which was burned down long ago. Konoha was never his home.He never showed any care towards any of them really and thats justified because he told them beforehand that he was going to use them as tools? Is that not selfish? Revenge has always been on his mind since the beginning of the series to satisfy his own desires. He was willing to do anything to achieve that goal including severing ties with friends regardless of how much it hurt them. He decided to go with Oro after he nearly caused the destruction of his entire home village. Just for more power to satisfy his own goals. He is a selfish character. Calling him selfless is an absolute joke.
The word I used was selfless, not sane.Also, while you're defending Sasuke, where will his goal start to become pure insanity? I can understand killing Danzo and the Elders, but he wants to obliterate Konoha. Obliterate the innocents. Is that not just batshit insane to you?
True selflessness is embodied by the noble personification of true Shinobi: Danzo Shimura.The word I used was selfless, not sane.
True selflessness is embodied by the noble personification of true Shinobi: Danzo Shimura.
I'm tired, I'm out.
Exactly. Danzo is pretty much the sole reason for the whole massacre.At first no. But when he went to Orochimaru it was a tad bit reckless...he was willing to betray his home (which his clan Honourably represented....well st the time) just to avenge his clan....kind of put a black mark on his already destroyed clan. Then once realizing his clan was killed on an order...I believe this is when he starts to cross into selfish. Sasuke decides everyone in Konoha must die, because his clan was murdered for trying to rebel....honestly there is more to life than just the clan...the village, family, and friends make up life. I mean hey look at Hinata....she was a main branch member, but didn't think of her clan as the greatest thing in the world.
The farthest Sasuke should have taken this was liking Danzo. Danzo is practically the soul person behind his clan's demise as I believe Hiruzen could have talked it out. Sadly Danzo did his stupid, this method makes Konoha's safety absolute so we do it...
But no he chose that everyone still needed to die because they all laughed in happiness thanks to Itachi's sacrifice. Note that even Sasuke kinda had laughs or good moments from this as well so it is almost hypocritical.
Sasuke started out very selfless in terms of avenging s clan and helping Naruto....his obsession on revenge turned to childish and rash decisions