Naruto SM or KM >>Sasuke EMS

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No doubt it's true. First of all please read the thread first and then reply.

1. All the hardcore readers of Naruto should know how EMS works. It enables one to prevent loss of eyesight which Uchiha's face while using MS. It does not provide you with extra chakra, increased strength, speed or reflexes. Neither does it provide one a new ability.

2.Perfect susanoo is a mystery and most probable achieved with the help of the Senju DNA (like any other ocular ability). So I am not counting that Sasuke has one.

When Obito (Tobi) was talking to Sasuke, the zetsu clone informed that pain was defeated by Naruto and he even stated that Naruto is possible stronger than Sasuke. "He might have made an assumption". This is what fans say but Zetsu knows all abilities of Sasuke including Kirin, Susanoo and Amateresu. He also knows how Pain was defeated by Naruto. So even if his statement was an assumption it held some ground to it.

ABILITIES OF SASUKE AND HOW NARUTO WOULD DODGE IT...

1. Amateresu:- Sasuke was able to dodge it when Itachi attacked him with it. How was he able to do it? He saw Itachi close his eyes, giving off pressure and his eye started bleeding, so he moved from his position even without knowing about the attack. But I think, now every ninja knows of Amateresu and can dodge it.
(I) Naruto's base speed is equal to Sasuke's. He was able to restrain Kakashi and prepare a rasengan to match Sasuke's chidori when Sasuke tried to kill sakura. I think proves that Naruto has improved his base speed after coming from the mount Myoboku.
(II) Also Naruto can use his multi shadow clone to create 100 shadow clone (casual amount for Naruto, LOL) to confuse Sasuke. He would have 1% chance of hitting Naruto if Naruto was even in front of the clones.

2. Susanoo:- Itachi's susanoo was able to tank Kirin because of his susanoo's special shield. Sasuke doesn't have one. His imperfect susanoo have been broken several times and his perfect susanoo was damaged greatly by Danzo's summoning.

(I) Naruto could use his summoning to great effect. He could use food cart destroyer where a toad is summoned from a great height and the toad falls on a target. In the latest chapter 296, Naruto summoned a toad to fall upon a bunch of zetsu clones while staying on ground.
(II) I think 3 or 4 toads with their own jutsu's and weapons can take care of Sasuke's susanoo. If required Naruto can summon more. He can even use combination Jutsu's.
(III) Susanoo arrow can be dodged, it is not like travels at a speed of light. Naruto can use his clones to protect him.

3. KIRIN:- It takes a lot of prep, and chakra to use it. It is not like Sasuke will get enough time to use it. Naruto will get underground like Kakashi(LOL).

4.Blaze release:- Sasuke has a special ability called Blaze release. It makes his Amateresu faster than usual and he can form shapes with it.
(I) Naruto may use his clones , a lot of them.
(II) In SM, his sensing power is greater than genius sensor ninja's. He was able to know that Kakashi dies in the leaf village whose population is more than 10 thousand and covers a large area. Also after syncing with Kurama, he has naturally become the best sensor around. So he will definitely sense it coming and dodge it as KM he is the fastest man alive or even in SM his speed equals 3-4 gates speed

5. Genjutsu:- Sasuke's Genjutsu didn't work on Bee and now that Naruto and Kurama are BFF I don't think it will work on him even if it was Itachi's Genjutsu.

SPEED, STAMINA, STRENGTH

1. Even in SM, Naruto becomes faster than Sasuke and in KM, Sasuke is not his league.
2. Naruto has Sage's Body and thus incredible stamina. His chakra are many times greater than Sasuke's.
3. In SM Naruto was able to throw a whole summoning away like to toy and break rocks and stones with ease. His body become incredibly tough even stones break against it.

FEATS
1. Naruto defeated Kage level ninja's with his clones in KM. He defeated 5 paths of pain in SM and the deva path all by himself.
2. Sasuke has killed samurai's and zetsu's.

SOME ARGUMENTS

1. Naruto will take a lot of time to enter SM:- In latest episodes and in manga chapters, Naruto was able to enter SM without meditating and within seconds.
2. Amateresu or Genjutsu stomps:- I have explained these.
 

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No doubt it's true. First of all please read the thread first and then reply.

1. All the hardcore readers of Naruto should know how EMS works. It enables one to prevent loss of eyesight which Uchiha's face while using MS. It does not provide you with extra chakra, increased strength, speed or reflexes. Neither does it provide one a new ability.

2.Perfect susanoo is a mystery and most probable achieved with the help of the Senju DNA (like any other ocular ability). So I am not counting that Sasuke has one.

When Obito (Tobi) was talking to Sasuke, the zetsu clone informed that pain was defeated by Naruto and he even stated that Naruto is possible stronger than Sasuke. "He might have made an assumption". This is what fans say but Zetsu knows all abilities of Sasuke including Kirin, Susanoo and Amateresu. He also knows how Pain was defeated by Naruto. So even if his statement was an assumption it held some ground to it.

ABILITIES OF SASUKE AND HOW NARUTO WOULD DODGE IT...

1. Amateresu:- Sasuke was able to dodge it when Itachi attacked him with it. How was he able to do it? He saw Itachi close his eyes, giving off pressure and his eye started bleeding, so he moved from his position even without knowing about the attack. But I think, now every ninja knows of Amateresu and can dodge it.
(I) Naruto's base speed is equal to Sasuke's. He was able to restrain Kakashi and prepare a rasengan to match Sasuke's chidori when Sasuke tried to kill sakura. I think proves that Naruto has improved his base speed after coming from the mount Myoboku.
(II) Also Naruto can use his multi shadow clone to create 100 shadow clone (casual amount for Naruto, LOL) to confuse Sasuke. He would have 1% chance of hitting Naruto if Naruto was even in front of the clones.

2. Susanoo:- Itachi's susanoo was able to tank Kirin because of his susanoo's special shield. Sasuke doesn't have one. His imperfect susanoo have been broken several times and his perfect susanoo was damaged greatly by Danzo's summoning.

(I) Naruto could use his summoning to great effect. He could use food cart destroyer where a toad is summoned from a great height and the toad falls on a target. In the latest chapter 296, Naruto summoned a toad to fall upon a bunch of zetsu clones while staying on ground.
(II) I think 3 or 4 toads with their own jutsu's and weapons can take care of Sasuke's susanoo. If required Naruto can summon more. He can even use combination Jutsu's.
(III) Susanoo arrow can be dodged, it is not like travels at a speed of light. Naruto can use his clones to protect him.

3. KIRIN:- It takes a lot of prep, and chakra to use it. It is not like Sasuke will get enough time to use it. Naruto will get underground like Kakashi(LOL).

4.Blaze release:- Sasuke has a special ability called Blaze release. It makes his Amateresu faster than usual and he can form shapes with it.
(I) Naruto may use his clones , a lot of them.
(II) In SM, his sensing power is greater than genius sensor ninja's. He was able to know that Kakashi dies in the leaf village whose population is more than 10 thousand and covers a large area. Also after syncing with Kurama, he has naturally become the best sensor around. So he will definitely sense it coming and dodge it as KM he is the fastest man alive or even in SM his speed equals 3-4 gates speed

5. Genjutsu:- Sasuke's Genjutsu didn't work on Bee and now that Naruto and Kurama are BFF I don't think it will work on him even if it was Itachi's Genjutsu.

SPEED, STAMINA, STRENGTH

1. Even in SM, Naruto becomes faster than Sasuke and in KM, Sasuke is not his league.
2. Naruto has Sage's Body and thus incredible stamina. His chakra are many times greater than Sasuke's.
3. In SM Naruto was able to throw a whole summoning away like to toy and break rocks and stones with ease. His body become incredibly tough even stones break against it.

FEATS
1. Naruto defeated Kage level ninja's with his clones in KM. He defeated 5 paths of pain in SM and the deva path all by himself.
2. Sasuke has killed samurai's and zetsu's.

SOME ARGUMENTS

1. Naruto will take a lot of time to enter SM:- In latest episodes and in manga chapters, Naruto was able to enter SM without meditating and within seconds.
2. Amateresu or Genjutsu stomps:- I have explained these.
sage mode naruto can't beat ems sasuke. The most amount of clones he can make in sage mode in 5. 3 rasenshuriken limit then he is out of sage mode and tired.
shardingan precog bridges the speed gap and the speed gap isn't even that great. genjutsu won't work which is true but he wouldn't use it since it didn't work on killer bee. Naruto actually still takes a while to go into sage mode idk where you were going with that.
 

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this is completely true except 4 the fact that even if naruto make clones sasuke can see the real one. the only advantage sasuke has is naruto's feelings toward him and but naruto has fought and beaten better opponents like pain. haku, kakuza, the kages and now he is fighting the 10 tails. Sasuke has cool fights but it be against weak low class opponents not one person sasuke fought was a good ninja except itachi and itach clearly wanted 2 lose to sasuke. Sasuke knows he doesnt stand a chance destroying the leaf village without learning the secrets of the uchiha and he knows he cant beat naruto in a str8 up fight he has to outsmart naruto and use his emotions 2 win. but if they were edo naruto and edo sasuke that fought each other with no feelings involved jus killing intentions naruto would kill sasuke in like 5 maybe 10 mins tops
 

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Hmmm,I don't think SM Naruto>Sasuke EMS.
EMS Sasuke>SM Naruto
EMS Sasuke>KM Naruto
BM Naruto>>>>>>>EMS Sasuke
Kabuto in DSM was fighting both Itachi and Sasuke and they weren't able to neutralize him. Itachi had to use Izanaagi which works on bad people( not Naruto).

Are you kidding KM Naruto made like 30 clones and each clone played a major part in defeating a high Kage level ninja.
Imagine Naruto make these clones while fighting Sasuke.In KM Naruto has proved himself to be the fastest man alive and tank strong attacks, form many rasengan at once and form mini-rasenshuriken able to cut through almost anything.

In SM Naruto protected himself from 3rd Raikage strongest and fastest attacks. All Naruto has to do is make multi shadow clone in SM and summon many toads. While Sasuke is targeting the toads with Amateresu, his clones attack Sasuke with ultra big ball rasengan( each is capable of taking down a summoning and many were able to restrain Kurama. Or if Sasuke goes for Naruto, the toads go for Sasuke's susanoo. There is no way Sasuke can win. Naruto has more chakra and a great sensing abilities.
 

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sage mode naruto can't beat ems sasuke. The most amount of clones he can make in sage mode in 5. 3 rasenshuriken limit then he is out of sage mode and tired.
shardingan precog bridges the speed gap and the speed gap isn't even that great. genjutsu won't work which is true but he wouldn't use it since it didn't work on killer bee. Naruto actually still takes a while to go into sage mode idk where you were going with that.
do u think sage mode is weak sir?? did u 4get Jiraya almost captured itachi and Kisame with his sage mode techniques and naruto's sage mode is much better than Jirayas and even with ems i still think nagato would str8 own sasuke
 

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do u think sage mode is weak sir?? did u 4get Jiraya almost captured itachi and Kisame with his sage mode techniques and naruto's sage mode is much better than Jirayas and even with ems i still think nagato would str8 own sasuke
i never said sage mode was weak. i just pointed out naruto's limitations. and even though jman's sage mode is imperfect jman in sage mode jman is stronger than naruto in sage mode due to ma and pa synchronizing with him thus lasting much longer than naruto's and his jutsu repertoire is much bigger. it is fact that ems sasuke would beat sm naruto mid diff
 

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the only reason itachi's amaterasu didn't hit sasuke is because he didn't want it to. Sasuke's amaterasu pretty much pops up in an instant. ex.(raikage fight). the raikage barely dodged it and he had intel on sasuke. and tell me how naruto touches amaterasu covered susanoo. And dont say frog summons because when nagato's summon touched amaterasu it vanished almost instantly
 

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Kabuto in DSM was fighting both Itachi and Sasuke and they weren't able to neutralize him. Itachi had to use Izanaagi which works on bad people( not Naruto).

Are you kidding KM Naruto made like 30 clones and each clone played a major part in defeating a high Kage level ninja.
Imagine Naruto make these clones while fighting Sasuke.In KM Naruto has proved himself to be the fastest man alive and tank strong attacks, form many rasengan at once and form mini-rasenshuriken able to cut through almost anything.

In SM Naruto protected himself from 3rd Raikage strongest and fastest attacks. All Naruto has to do is make multi shadow clone in SM and summon many toads. While Sasuke is targeting the toads with Amateresu, his clones attack Sasuke with ultra big ball rasengan( each is capable of taking down a summoning and many were able to restrain Kurama. Or if Sasuke goes for Naruto, the toads go for Sasuke's susanoo. There is no way Sasuke can win. Naruto has more chakra and a great sensing abilities.
dsm and sm is two different things. and if naruto didn't get intel he would have lost
 

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the only reason itachi's amaterasu didn't hit sasuke is because he didn't want it to. Sasuke's amaterasu pretty much pops up in an instant. ex.(raikage fight). the raikage barely dodged it and he had intel on sasuke. and tell me how naruto touches amaterasu covered susanoo. And dont say frog summons because when nagato's summon touched amaterasu it vanished almost instantly
raikage barely dodged it??? are u stupid? raikage dodged it with ease did u see him side stepping amaterasu like he was floyd mayweather lol and naruto can throw the rashishuriken and thats a big target to hit i doubt sasuke will dodge it with susanoo and did u 4get sasuke doesnt have perfect susanoo and only madara's was compared to the tailed beast power im pretty sure a couple clones hitting susanoo with great ball rasengan would eventually take down susanoo everyone sasuke fought broke his susanoo or dodged his moves and naruto is way stronger than them
 
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raikage barely dodged it??? are u stupid? raikage dodged it with ease did u see him side stepping amaterasu like he was floyd mayweather lol and naruto can throw the rashishuriken and thats a big target to hit i doubt sasuke will dodge it with susanoo and did u 4get sasuke doesnt have perfect susanoo and only madara's was compared to the tailed beast power im pretty sure a couple clones hitting susanoo with great ball rasengan would eventually take down susanoo everyone sasuke fought broke his susanoo or dodged his moves and naruto is way stronger than them
is ay was as fast as you say he should and would have counter attacked. instead he only dodged. and naruto's cho odama rasengan couldn't break through the weakest form of susanno no way is he breaking through full susanno.
 

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Dude do you releaze what we didn't saw Sasuke's full power. Whatever you saw in battle against Kabuto he was holding back and that's not all what he can do U_U
 
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