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Shyarkugan, good improvements on the list. The only difference for me would be putting Kisame higher. People tend to underrate him yet i feel he could fight on par/beat many people on the High Kage level. Other than the bad match up he has with Deidara, he's higher than the other people in his current bracket.

Kisame = High Kage Level
 

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Shyarkugan, good improvements on the list. The only difference for me would be putting Kisame higher. People tend to underrate him yet i feel he could fight on par/beat many people on the High Kage level. Other than the bad match up he has with Deidara, he's higher than the other people in his current bracket.

Kisame = High Kage Level

And he lost to a jounin ;)

jk

He is low/ mid Kage level at best.
 

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And he lost to a jounin ;)

jk

He is low/ mid Kage level at best.

Yet he beats Bee, the 2nd Mizukage and so on. Suiton Daikodan gives me reason to believe he rivals Oonki and Mu due to overpowering Jinton since its a chakra based attack whilst strengthening his own jutsu in proportion to the amount of chakra absorbed.

I even feel he rivals Minato and might make a Vs Thread on it in the near future.

Low Kage is just underrating him, Mid Kage isn't understanding his abilities.
 

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Yet he beats Bee, the 2nd Mizukage and so on. Suiton Daikodan gives me reason to believe he rivals Oonki and Mu due to overpowering Jinton since its a chakra based attack whilst strengthening his own jutsu in proportion to the amount of chakra absorbed.

I even feel he rivals Minato and might make a Vs Thread on it in the near future.

Low Kage is just underrating him, Mid Kage isn't understanding his abilities.

When someone says Tsunade is low kage, he is underrating her. Mid Kage isn't understanding her abilities ;)
 

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When someone says Tsunade is low kage, he is underrating her. Mid Kage isn't understanding her abilities ;)

You think Tsunade is High Kage in this particular tier list ? Look through the list of High Kage Shinobi and say which ones she beats/rivals in power.
 

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You think Tsunade is High Kage in this particular tier list ? Look through the list of High Kage Shinobi and say which ones she beats/rivals in power.

With Jiraiya and Orochimaru she is equal.
She rivals with A.

But I don't say her combat abilities are on high Kage level. If we look her combat abilities, she is low/ mid Kage level.
But if we look her chakra reserves and her ability to heal countless peoples at the same time, she is high Kage level.
 

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With Jiraiya and Orochimaru she is equal.
She rivals with A.

But I don't say her combat abilities are on high Kage level. If we look her combat abilities, she is low/ mid Kage level.
But if we look her chakra reserves and her ability to heal countless peoples at the same time, she is high Kage level.

Her skills are High Kage level, but the list is determining the relative strength of shinobi. If this was a thread of ranking shinobi on individual skill it would be a much harder job and a much more difficult list. Sasori would near the top, Oro/Kabuto would be in the highest tier, Kisame would be pretty low down, Hidan would be the lowest tier and so on.
 

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God Tier
Sage of Six Paths


Demi God Tier
Edo Madara
Kabuto with his edo army
Obito and his jinchuurikies

Above Kage level

Hashirama
EMS Madara
Nagato ( healthy + Gedo Mazo )
BM Naruto


High Kage Tier

MS Obito
KM Naruto
Fairy Tale Itachi
Minato
Mu Orochimaru + Edo Tobirama and Hashirama
3rd Raikage
Killer Bee
DSM Kabuto
EMS Sasuke
Second Mizukage/ Muu


Mid-high kage level

Tsunade ( as a supporter )
Jiraiya
Danzo
Onoki
Sasori
Orochimaru
A
MS Kakashi
Gaara

Mid Kage Tier

Kakuzu
Kisame
Deidara
Gai
4th Kazekage
Tsunade ( combat abilities )
Hanzo
Tobirama

Low Kage Tier

Konan
Mei
Hiruzen
Chiyo
Mifune
Hiashi
 

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its much easier to put kishis tier list instead of the community's list. there is no order in the tiers.

God Tier
Rikudo Sennin

Demi-God tier
hashirama
edo/ems madara

Legend Tier
rinnegan obito
nagato
BM naruto
ems sasuke

Kage Tier
itachi
mu
3rd raikage
2nd mizukage
mei
tsunade
onoki
Ay
gaara
kakashi
gai
bee
danzo
shisui
deidara
kcm naruto
sm naruto
kisame
kakuzu
kabuto
jiraiya
hiruzen
minato
tobirama
4th kazekage
chiyo
mifune
hanzo
sharingan obito
kinkaku
ginkaku

Jounin Tier
war arc shikamaru
war arc ino
war arc choji
war arc kankuro
war arc lee
suigetsu
jugo
part 1 kakashi
part 1 gaara
tenten with rikudo sennins fan
asuma
choza
shino
base naruto


i will finish this list later.
 

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its much easier to put kishis tier list instead of the community's list. there is no order in the tiers.

God Tier
Rikudo Sennin

Demi-God tier
hashirama

edo/ems madara

time after time you call your own opinion "kishi's" and put Hashirama above Edo Madara. No doubt you'll reply with the only 2 things you have as "proof":

Madara said "he's the only one who could beat me" which you turn into; "Hashirama can and would always beat me"

And Perfect Susano'o is his strongest jutsu and Hashirama's is stronger. I don't think you understand Naruto's battle dynamics one bit.

also, your list is awful as it offers no gradation to "kage level" which entails the highest amount of shinobi.
 
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God Tier
Sage of Six Paths


Demi God Tier
Edo Madara with Jubi
Kabuto with edos
Obito with jinchuriki

Legend Tier
Hashirama
EMS Madara with Kyubbi
BM Naruto
Healthy Nagato with Gedo Mazou

High Kage Tier
MS Obito
KM Naruto
DSM Kabuto
Six Paths of Pain
EMS Sasuke
Healthy Itachi
Minato
Mu
Killer Bee
Onoki
Second Mizukage
Orochimaru with edo tensei (fodder part 1 versions)
3rd Raikage
Prime Hiruzen (hype)
Izuna (hype)

Mid-high kage level

Prime Hanzo (hype)
SM Jiraiya
Danzo
SM Naruto
Sasori
Healthy Orochimaru without edo tensei
A
Kisame
MS Kakashi
3rd Kazekage (hype)
Gaara
Tobirama (hype)

Mid Kage Tier

Kakuzu
Deidara
Gai (with gates)
Early Shippuden Gaara
4th Kazekage
Tsunade

Low-Mid Kage Tier

Snake cloak Kabuto without sage mode and Sound five powers
Base Jiraiya
Mei
3 tomoe Kakashi
Hebi Sasuke
3 tomoe Itachi
Hanzo (feats only)
Sakumo Hatake (hype)
Low Kage Tier
Old Hiruzen (feats only)
Lady Chiyo
Part 1 Tsunade
Konan
Mifune
Kitsuchi
Hiashi
Gai without gates
Drugged Jiraiya
3 tomoe Sasuke


High Jounin Tier
Temari
Darui
Chouji
Part 1 Hashirama
Kimimaro
SRA Gaara
Yamato
base Naruto
Hidan
Part 1 Kakashi
Kankuro
Neji
Suigetsu
Rock Lee (with gates)
Zabuza
Part 1 Kabuto

Mid Jounin Tier

Part 1 Tobirama
Early Shippuden Kankuro
Asuma
Sai
Kurotsuchi
Baki
Jugo
Gemna
Raido
Shikaku
Chouza
Early Shippuden Naruto

Low Jounin Tier
Tenten with Banana fan
Kurenai
Shizune
Inoichi
SRA Sasuke (CS2 and 3 tomoe sharingan)
SRA Naruto (one tailed form)
CE Lee (with gates)
Current base Lee
SRA Temari
SRA Neji
kid Kakashi
CE Gaara (without Shukaku)
Shino
Shikamaru
Anko
Ebisu

High Chunin
Kidomaro
Early Shippuden Shikamaru
Sakura
Hinata
SRA Kankuro
Sakon/Ukon
Tayuya
Kiba
Early Shippuden Chouji
CE Neji
CE Sasuke (2 tomoe only after chidori training)

Mid Chunin Tier
SRA Shikamaru
SRA Kiba
Jiroubo
SRA Chouji (with pills)
Izumo
Kotetsu
Tenten
CE Lee without weights

Low Chunin Tier
Ino
CE Temari
CE Shino
CE Shikamaru
CE Kankuro
Dosu
Konohamaru
CE Kiba
Demon brothers
Iruka
Mizuki
CE Weighted Lee
Preliminary Naruto
Preliminary Sasuke
Karin

High Genin Tier
Zaku
CE Hinata
CE Chouji
CE Tenten
Kin
Kisume Tsurugi

Low Genin
Part 1 Ino
Part 1 Sakura
Yoroi
Gato's two samurai body guards
Udon
Moegi

Note: If I missed someone or made mistakes, please correct me. I may be forgetting different versions of each character so tell me who I missed.

This is a really good list but I think Ino should be in Mid chunin. Also shouldn't Hebi Sasuke be above deidara since he did beat him. And I think you add should Fugaku, other than that really great list:D
 

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Darui shits on Zabuza in every aspect. Lightning black panther>all Zabuza's suiton. Darui's Raiton infused blade>Executioners blade, and has already somewhat proven it against Suigetsu (although he's not as skilled as Zabuza in kenjutsu, it would have broke in anyone's possession with or without the crack). Darui is a bad choice for Zabuza, but other then that, I agree he's high jonin level.

Darui has no counter to mist, Darui stands no chance
 

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time after time you call your own opinion "kishi's" and put Hashirama above Edo Madara. No doubt you'll reply with the only 2 things you have as "proof":

Madara said "he's the only one who could beat me" which you turn into; "Hashirama can and would always beat me"

And Perfect Susano'o is his strongest jutsu and Hashirama's is stronger. I don't think you understand Naruto's battle dynamics one bit.

also, your list is awful as it offers no gradation to "kage level" which entails the highest amount of shinobi.

are you still crying about hashirama>edo madara. perfect susano>madaras other techs and hashirama beat it. if you can tank an atomic bomb then you can tank regular grenades which are tiers below an atomic bomb in power. its simple logic. its idiots like you that want to exaggerate madaras power and stretch him beyond canon.

if i cant kill someone with my full power then i am definitely not killing someone with something far below my full power.

there is no multiple stages in kage level. you are kage level or you are not. people arent classified as mid kage, high kage or low kage in the manga.
 
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are you still crying about hashirama>edo madara. perfect susano>madaras other tech and hashirama beat it. if you can tank an atomic bomb then you can tank regular grenades which are tiers below an atomic bomb in power. its simple logic. its idiots like you that want to exaggerate madaras power and stretch him beyond canon.

if i cant kill someone with my full power then i am definitely not killing someone with something far below my full power.

there is no multiple stages in kage level. you are kage level or you are not. people arent classified as mid kage, high kage or low kage in the manga.

Where to even begin with this monstrosity of a response..

If you think that Hashirama can beat Edo Madara you are wrong. It's not an opinion, it's not Kishi's opinion, it's not canon, it's wrong. If you honestly think that because of the "simple logic" you stated, then you do not understand battle dynamics one bit. Not one bit.

Let me walk you through this to make it really simple for you (since you need it to be as simple as possible)

Take a shinobi, let's say DSM Kabuto for instance. It is true that Sasuke has the strongest attack (Susano'o, Amaterasu) but we both know Sasuke would not win against Kabuto. Your simple logic, where does it go? Out of the window; as it does with every match-up featuring shinobi with more than one move.

For some reson you can't / aren't willing understand that someones strongest attack isn't all of their power, it's a piece. If someone has more pieces, and can use them to good effect (As Madara uses Rinengan effectively) then it just adds onto his overall power. You can't look at the power of one move in their arsenal, that logic simply doesn't work.

I also checked out your profile, and laughed heartily. I can ensure you that defending your opinion against lots of people, with bogus facts and horrible assumptions is not in any way good.
 
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Where to even begin with this monstrosity of a response..

If you think that Hashirama can beat Edo Madara you are wrong. It's not an opinion, it's not Kishi's opinion, it's not canon, it's wrong. If you honestly think that because of the "simple logic" you stated, then you do not understand battle dynamics one bit. Not one bit.

Let me walk you through this to make it really simple for you (since you need it to be as simple as possible)

Take a shinobi, let's say DSM Kabuto for instance. It is true that Sasuke has the strongest attack (Susano'o, Amaterasu) but we both know Sasuke would not win against Kabuto. Your simple logic, where does it go? Out of the window; as it does with every match-up featuring shinobi with more than one move.

You don't understand that someones full power isn't all of their power, it's still a piece. If someone has more pieces, and can use them (As Madara uses Rinengan effectively) then it just adds onto his overall power. You can't look at the power of one move in their arsenal, that logic simply doesn't work.

all of madaras techs involve raw power. hashirama beat the best of madara. he wont lose to the worst of madara.

you are basically saying that kishi said that hashirama beat madara throughout the manga countless times, have madara praise hashirama after he was revived, have characters state on multiple occasions that only hashirama can beat madara, have madara admit it himself and keep madaras full power the same from when he fought hashirama only to not portray hashirama>madara.
that is a clear case of denial.

unless you think that madara can use all of his techs at once(which is stretching his canon abilities) then hashirama is clearly>any form of madara. madaras full power caps at perfect susano. he can only use perfect susano and it alone when he uses it based on feats.
 

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Your joking right? It's actually the contrary. You can't hit what you can't touch. Minato can easily penetrate their useless defenses with his space time jutsus especially when we talk about Nagato's defense that need 5seconds activation after each use

"Your joking right?"

And what when Nagato opens Preta Path and allows for hands free (as manga proven) absorption of (as databook stated) all chakra based attacks?

Is Minato going to taijutsu a man who can kill him with Human Path if he tries to make contact, and Deva Path if he so chooses?
 

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unless you think that madara can use all of his techs at once(which is stretching his canon abilities) then hashirama is clearly>any form of madara. madaras full power caps at perfect susano. he can only use perfect susano and it alone when he uses it based on feats.

deleted the rest of the quote since it was you lying, stretching and manipulating words and so on.

@Bolded, do you mean like when he didn't use 20 Mokuton clones and Susano'os? Oh wait that's not his full power so cannot in anyway affect the outcome of the fight, I forgot that. you're an idiot

Also, did you hear of this fancy new tech Madara got called Preta Path? Since you love Kishi so much, why don't you head on over to the databook and read up about it; it absorbs every single ninjitsu attack and has no limit to how much it can absorb, and can be done hands free (as proven by manga, or as you'd say, "KISHI TOLD U")
 
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deleted the rest of the quote since it was you lying, stretching and manipulating words and so on.

@Bolded, do you mean like when he didn't use 20 Mokuton clones and Susano'os? Oh wait that's not his full power so cannot in anyway affect the outcome of the fight, I forgot that. you're an idiot

Also, did you hear of this fancy new tech Madara got called Preta Path? Since you love Kishi so much, why don't you head on over to the databook and read up about it; it absorbs every single ninjitsu attack and has no limit to how much it can absorb, and can be done hands free (as proven by manga, or as you'd say, "KISHI TOLD U"
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(madara says that hashirama can stop him)


people didnt say that hashirama could beat madara? madara didnt say that hashirama can beat him like the original japanese text says? madara doesnt give hashirama great amounts of praise? kishi didnt make his characters say that only hashirama can beat madara even though its the "OMGZ uber haxor" madara on the battlefield?

look up the databook entry on mokuton. perfect susano>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1000000 susano clones(even though madara hasnt shown this many)
no matter how far below madaras new techs are portrayed below him and hashiramas full power, you just wont accept it.


you didnt delete the rest of my post because it was me lying, it was because you couldnt counter and made a BS excuse. you are full of shit.
 
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All I can say is lol

so its confirmed that you are an idiot, cant even debate competently and bail when you are wrong. alright now lets move on with life.
 
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