AGREED! That was the only good thing that I can relate to him. lolOh well, at least his battle with Sasuke was badass. ~
Then try and refute even a single point in the thread, don't just say it.Ehh I disagree, though his motives were different, he was all about protecting Konoha and he wasn't a coward.
then why did he run from sasuke twice during the summit attack and when he was trying to hop away from him on the bridgeEhh I disagree, though his motives were different, he was all about protecting Konoha and he wasn't a coward.
He didn't even trust himself, that's why he was just another fool who chased after other people's power, and setup his Izanagi for 10 goes! Seriously, who plans to fail 10 times? Only Danzo lolCunning. He did not trust anyone, as what Sai show to Sakura & Naruto.
Yeah Itachi said that, but think about the death's of every character and what they did with it. Itachi showed his true loving character and passed on the Mangekyou to his brother along with ridding him of the cursed seal, and left his eyes for the taking.I agree, he is ridiculously selfish and only thinks about his own ideals, but given his status as running Root for all that time you can see that he prioritized Konoha's protection. He just took his ideals too far and turned into a power hungry man with an absolutist view of justice, unlike someone like Hiruzen who looked on both sides of the fence and tried for peace. Also his dying words does show that he does care about the village, and there's no reason why he would lie about that. Remember, Itachi said that people reveal their true selves before their death.
He wanted to protect Konoha certainly, he just went the wrong way about it (morally, that is). I can't remember who it but in the manga it was said that Root take care of the "dirty work", the stuff that keeps the village on it's feet but it doesn't incorporate any of the "Will of Fire" philosophy that the other ninjas had.
The entire process he went through to try and take the position of Kage was just wrong though, the Senju DNA from Oro, Shisui's eye, KA on Mifune....he was fully corrupt and fits more into the "necessary evil" category like Chiyo and Oonoki back in the day...only trying to benefit themselves and the village. He'd be the last person to agree to forming a Shinobi Alliance that's for sure...
Well 1st off, he was all about protecting Konoha, though his methods were different, still same love for his village.Then try and refute even a single point in the thread, don't just say it.
He didn't run from Sasuke at the Summit, he used to confusion Sasuke created to escape from a tight situation & he hoped away because he felt he was the only person who could bring stability to the world.then why did he run from sasuke twice during the summit attack and when he was trying to hop away from him on the bridge
didnt help during the pain or oro invasion
and ordered the uchiha massacre sounds like a coward to me
There is no point in arguing with you, because you just proved that you actually bought his bullshit, he was the delusional self proclaimed self righteous "savior" of the world and sacrificed so many for that reason, and you are using that as an attribute and an argument?he hoped away because he felt he was the only person who could bring stability to the world.
You're righ about everything you've said about Danzo.I will prove this to you, here and now! Just try and refute even a single point in this thread!
If you think Danzo was some kind of hero or even an anti-hero, this thread will finally open your eyes, read the whole thread, or don't bother arguing, I worked hard to make you people finally see the light.
Only someone who has missed the point of Danzos character can say he wanted to protect the leaf at heart.....cuz that is a sackload of shit....let me tell you why....
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What Danzo wanted to protect^ as you can concur from that image, was his own ideal!!
He was against the teachings of Senju Hashirama! The man who started the hidden leaf and protected it with his principles, passing them on to those who loved the village and believed in that principle....The Will of Fire!
All his efforts went towards usurping the Hokage seat, so he could enforce his own ideals and discard the teachings of the man who founded Konoha.
And he couldn't even do it himself! You see, Danzo was a coward! Yes, a useless, spineless coward who used other people to achieve his motives...
He was a preacher of self sacrifice, and yet:You must be registered for see images
So why couldn't he "say it"?
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.....why did his trembling stop? Why was he relieved that Hiruzen said it?
Because, on the inside, in his true nature, Danzo was truly a coward, a spineless bitch!
He was the glorified preacher of self sacrifice all his life....and yet....the only people who were sacrificed, were the members in his organisation, example: Fuu and Torune, and probably countless others!
Danzo never cared for the village!!"Youre always one step ahead of me Hiruzen"You must be registered for see images
The most important thing for Danzo, was to catch up to Hiruzen. Which completely explains his LAST WORDS to himself, his true intentions:You must be registered for see images
Danzo's life's ambition was to get on Hiruzens level. Which he obviously couldn't do on his own...so he....
Ripped out Shisuis eye for Kotoamatsukami.
Made Orochimaru implant Shodaimes cells in him.
The worst of all....he made Itachi destroy his own clan and took their eyes for Izanagi( A jutsu that lets you cheat death, he knew he would need it because of his own incompetence). Also...Izanagi was set up to be used 10 frikking times! And I also ask you this....did Danzo seem like the type of person who accepted his true self? Cuz only those that cannot, use Izanagi.
You: oh oh but in that last image he also said "for the sake of the village I cannot let you live"! He sacrificed his life...
You are wrong....You must be registered for see imagesYou see....even in a room full of Kage, Danzo chose to flee from Sasuke. Later on, Tobi caught up with him, who just wouldn't let him run away. So...Danzo had no choice but to fight, cuz trust me, that coward would have rather fled but he thought he was dealing with Madara, so he knew there was no escape. HeheYou must be registered for see images
Danzo didn't try and stop Madara and Sasuke because of some sense of loyalty to Konoha, HE WAS FORCED TO FIGHT!
Danzo was a self righteous, self centred, coward of a man, who made the youth give up their lives for him.
The only reason he even stepped out of his underground sewer, was to trick Mifune into choosing him as the supreme leader of the alliance, but the other Kages wouldn't have that, cuz they knew what kind of untrustworthy, garbage he was! They even suspected him of plotting the murder of noble Hiruzen. Which was also probably true...
Last thing you would say: oh oh but he saved Naruto by killing the frog when Pain came, that was a decision befitting a shinobi....
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You see Danzo never protected anything, except himself ofcourse, what he wanted to protect was the tailed beast inside Naruto from Akatsuki, so that he could have it for himself!
This was Danzo's true ideology, and it has nothing to do with protecting Konoha, see for yourself:
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I am the only savior of the world? Other's must be sacrificed for that reason, so I can live?
How many other, KONOHA Shinobi's did Danzo sacrifice for that same reason? Countless nameless Shinobi! Sai would have been one too!
Even the writer of the manga gave Danzo what he deserved towards the end of his life:
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Painful death! 10 times over! And a walk of shame and cowardice for the redemption of the Uchiha.
So there you have it....
He wanted to protect Konoha certainly, he just went the wrong way about it (morally, that is). I can't remember who it but in the manga it was said that Root take care of the "dirty work", the stuff that keeps the village on it's feet but it doesn't incorporate any of the "Will of Fire" philosophy that the other ninjas had.
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Danzo did die for the village
Do you hear the snake rattling its tail very subtly during his noble theme? That's his true nature.You're righ about everything you've said about Danzo.
^ His theme is still bo$$ though! Plus, I like his Wind Jutsu.
I don't know, had that sealing jutsu worked he would have done an awful lot for the village, taking Sasuke down removes a massive threat, and taking Obito down....well it may not prevent the Shinobi World War, but it sets Madara's plans back a few paces. What Danzo did before he died may not be on the level of gracious sacrifice as Itachi, but to try and take Sasuke and Obito with him puts him on the same level as Kisame with the whole "do something decent before you die" thing.Yeah Itachi said that, but think about the death's of every character and what they did with it. Itachi showed his true loving character and passed on the Mangekyou to his brother along with ridding him of the cursed seal, and left his eyes for the taking.
Kisame revealed his true intentions about living in a perfect world free of lies and deceit. He proved his loyalty to that ideal, sending out an information scroll and making a bunch of shark summons eat himself! Did I mention he bit off his own tongue?
What did Danzo do? A sealing jutsu that was supposed to activate upon his death activated, which did absolutely nothing except giving Sasuke and Obito a little scare, even in the end he was self glorifying himself with his own words, he was delusional.
His thoughts revealed his true self though, that he was the same old jealous bitch from his flashback who wanted to catch up to Hiruzen and be counted in the same league as him. He failed. He loved only himself, he hated the Hokage's ideal Konoha, he wanted to build one with his own ideals, that was his goal, he never cared for Konoha.
He didn't, that seal was meant to activate upon his death, that's all that happened, stabbed twice, once through the lung, he was dead bro. Nothing noble about this *uckerI don't know, had that sealing jutsu worked he would have done an awful lot for the village, taking Sasuke down removes a massive threat, and taking Obito down....well it may not prevent the Shinobi World War, but it sets Madara's plans back a few paces. What Danzo did before he died may not be on the level of gracious sacrifice as Itachi, but to try and take Sasuke and Obito with him puts him on the same level as Kisame with the whole "do something decent before you die" thing.
I can't argue with the fact that he was selfish, because throughout the story he was a total ****. I still think he loved Konoha though. He may have not taken pride in the way that Hiruzen run the village and he definitely didn't have peaceful ideals, but he wanted to protect the village. In fact, I'd say he wanted to protect the village too much, which is why he took such drastic, corrupt measures to try and build Konoha into a fortress with all of the ninjas being emotionless killing machines.
In short, Danzo loved his village, but tried to protect it in his own way and in his own ideals, which was wrong. So all of his intentions are definitely deep rooted in his own selfishness.