Danzo was the most selfish and the biggest coward. Undeniable FACTS and PROOF!

[Anakin Skywalker]

Actually, as I have proved, he was just using that^ as an excuse to manipulate countless patriotic ninja who would do anything for the village, he sent them out to their death for his own personal gain.

Konoha was already the safest and strongest village in the Narutoverse, why did he want to change that?

He was jealous of Hiruzen and couldn't stand living in his shadow, Orochimaru's attack that shook Konoha's foundations was suspected of being orchestrated by Danzo, as it was clear who would gain from it, and who planted his Senju cells.

he was not using it as an excuse
countless people die protecting the village ...it happens all the time .....it happens under 1st hokage's control to 5th hokage's control

@bold dont make me laugh ..... i mean it was invaded by many like it was easy as a walking to a park ....oro came like it was no pblm ,a whole sand team came no pblm ... oro killed kazekage and was sitting next to 3rd and 3rd didn't even notice it until it was too long,itachi came no pblm...

you have to look at this from danzo's perspective
to danzo 3rd and tsunade were weak their methods were also weak .....

take the hyuga incident for example..... a foreign shinobi comes and kidnaps hinata .....her father kills the shinobi ..... now the enemy nation wants revenge by asking for haishi dead body ...and hiruzen accepts the deal :sy: if this isn't lame i dont know what is

if danzo was in power he would have started a war did some dirty work and destroyed the other village and set an example for the world that if hey mess with the leaf they'll regret it .....this is danzo's way of saving the village .....sure 1000+ shinobis from leaf would have died also but in future it would make the other villages think twice before crossing paths with the leaf....thus ensuring leafs safty........ i'm not saying it is the right decision but this decision also protects konoha

he didn't help in pain invasion ..... thats a bad thing but to him it means taking out tsunade then ruling konoha his way then make it safe again under his rule

again i say his methods are cruel but his ultimate aim was safty of konoha ....he was looking out for konoha all those years

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Yes i second ur idea of him being a coward and selfish. That is beyond any contesting. But what im saying, along with that cowardice act, hidden his patriotism trying to emulate what hiruzen done, and that my friend is something u gotta give him credit for. TRYING. Thats all im saying.

He wasn't trying, he was defending and that was a pitiful last resort. I agree with you that the only thing he was actually TRYING for, was imitating Hiruzen, but he failed at that too.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

he was not using it as an excuse
countless people die protecting the village ...it happens all the time .....it happens under 1st hokage's control to 5th hokage's control

@bold dont make me laugh ..... i mean it was invaded by many like it was easy as a walking to a park ....oro came like it was no pblm ,a whole sand team came no pblm ... oro killed kazekage and was sitting next to 3rd and 3rd didn't even notice it until it was too long,itachi came no pblm...

you have to look at this from danzo's perspective
to danzo 3rd and tsunade were weak their methods were also weak .....

take the hyuga incident for example..... a foreign shinobi comes and kidnaps hinata .....her father kills the shinobi ..... now the enemy nation wants revenge by asking for haishi dead body ...and hiruzen accepts the deal :sy: if this isn't lame i dont know what is

if danzo was in power he would have started a war did some dirty work and destroyed the other village and set an example for the world that if hey mess with the leaf they'll regret it .....this is danzo's way of saving the village .....sure 1000+ shinobis from leaf would have died also but in future it would make the other villages think twice before crossing paths with the leaf....thus ensuring leafs safty........ i'm not saying it is the right decision but this decision also protects konoha

he didn't help in pain invasion ..... thats a bad thing but to him it means taking out tsunade then ruling konoha his way then make it safe again under his rule

again i say his methods are cruel but his ultimate aim was safty of konoha ....he was looking out for konoha all those years

Both your examples are of Konoha being betrayed by an allied nation. :rofl: they were allowed in because they were friends and because of valid reasons. One was the Chuunin exams, the other was the celebration of the alliance and the end of the war.

It had nothing to do with Konoha's weakness. It was actually Konoha's and Hiruzen's strength that prevented disaster and proved that strength.

Danzo was even suspected of being behind Orochimaru's attack. And yes, Shinobi are supposed to sacrifice their lives for the village, not Danzo's personal gain.

And I can't help but notice you haven't tried to refute even a single point from my thread.

 

[AirWind]

He wasn't trying, he was defending and that was a pitiful last resort. I agree with you that the only thing he was actually TRYING for, was imitating Hiruzen, but he failed at that too.

NVM anything u said at least we agree to some point he was trying....

 

[Exaar]

Yet another danzo hate thread i see xd.

You do know there is no proof that danzo Stole sushi's eye/Had the uchiha killed because of his rivalry with hiruzen, It had nothing to do with his rivalry.
He had the uchiha's killed to Protect the village and the fire country. If it wasn't for Danzo's Harsh but quick actions alot more people would've died since hiruzen would of only acted once forced to.

Also sasuke trembled when he fought Zabuza, So much so he was going to kill himself, This doesn't mean he was a coward, Danzo said he wanted to put himself forward (in his head), So his Mind/Heart was in the right place, he was mentally willing to Die for his team.
Everyone gets scared every now and then.

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Here danzo's wants to put himself forward, He wasn't a complete coward otherwise he wouldn't of said it in the first place.

You also have zero proof that his goal to catch hiruzen was above his Goal to protect the leaf, He wanted to catch up to hiruzen yes, that was one of his goals, No proof to say he put that goal above the safety of the village.
Danzo created the root for the soul reason to protect the leaf from the shadow's, Not only in the scan during his final moments alive does he say he wants to protect the leaf, but he also does when he visted kabuto's orphanage.

You may be to blinded by your hate towards him to see this, you also fail to understand that the people in his root are willing to die for their leader, It's their jobs if it's need be. They knew what they were getting into once they joined the root.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Yet another danzo hate thread i see xd.

You do know there is no proof that danzo Stole sushi's eye/Had the uchiha killed because of his rivalry with hiruzen, It had nothing to do with his rivalry.
He had the uchiha's killed to Protect the village and the fire country. If it wasn't for Danzo's Harsh but quick actions alot more people would've died since hiruzen would of only acted once forced to.

Also sasuke trembled when he fought Zabuza, So much so he was going to kill himself, This doesn't mean he was a coward, Danzo said he wanted to put himself forward (in his head), So his Mind/Heart was in the right place, he was mentally willing to Die for his team.
Everyone gets scared every now and then.

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Here danzo's wants to put himself forward, He wasn't a complete coward otherwise he wouldn't of said it in the first place.

You also have zero proof that his goal to catch hiruzen was above his Goal to protect the leaf, He wanted to catch up to hiruzen yes, that was one of his goals, No proof to say he put that goal above the safety of the village.
Danzo created the root for the soul reason to protect the leaf from the shadow's, Not only in the scan during his final moments alive does he say he wants to protect the leaf, but he also does when he visted kabuto's orphanage.

You may be to blinded by your hate towards him to see this, you also fail to understand that the people in his root are willing to die for their leader, It's their jobs if it's need be. They knew what they were getting into once they joined the root.

There is a difference between trembling in the face of an enemy while being 8 years old and a genin, all the while being on your first dangerous mission and trembling at the thought of protecting your own ninja way as a FULL GROWN MAN, and then feeling better when someone else does it for you.

BTW you just compared an 8 year old to a FULL GROWN MAN :rofl:

In his final moments, what he said was to self glorify his actions like he had been doing all his life, his true intentions are on the very next page.

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

Both your examples are of Konoha being betrayed by an allied nation. :rofl: they were allowed in because they were friends and because of valid reasons. One was the Chuunin exams, the other was the celebration of the alliance and the end of the war.

It had nothing to do with Konoha's weakness. It was actually Konoha's and Hiruzen's strength that prevented disaster and proved that strength.

Danzo was even suspected of being behind Orochimaru's attack. And yes, Shinobi are supposed to sacrifice their lives for the village, not Danzo's personal gain.

And I can't help but notice you haven't tried to refute even a single point from my thread.

i hope you can read

oro coming the first time killing some grass village ninja to give curse seal to sasuke-no one notices and i do not see a valid reason here
oro coming second time killing kazekage and comes in his place - no one notices and i do not see a valid reason here
sand sibling and their sensei ->valid reason
but 20+ other sand jonin -> no one notices and not a valid reason
itachi comes -> no one notices and no valid reason

leaf was not in the best of shape under hiruzen .....he was too soft sometimes...more caring rather than daring

@bold how is surendering a comrade who tried to save his daughter to an enemy nation prove the strength of konoha

i'm trying to change your mind about Danzo and also make you understand though Danzo made rash decisions and did cruel things he always had the leaf village in his heart

 

[Exaar]

There is a difference between trembling in the face of an enemy while being 8 years old and a genin, all the while being on your first dangerous mission and trembling at the thought of protecting your own ninja way as a FULL GROWN MAN, and then feeling better when someone else does it for you.
BTW you just compared an 8 year old to a FULL GROWN MAN :rofl:

In his final moments, what he said was to self glorify his actions like he had been doing all his life, his true intentions are on the very next page.

It was a simple example, Calm yourself.

Again random crap you keep sprouting, The next page doesn't prove he put catching Hiruzen above the Leaf, if he did he wouldn't of wasted time creating the root in the first place.
He wouldn't of crushed shisui's eye befor death, He wouldn't of went to kabuto's orphanage and so on.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

i hope you can read

oro coming the first time killing some grass village ninja to give curse seal to sasuke-no one notices and i do not see a valid reason here
oro coming second time killing kazekage and comes in his place - no one notices and i do not see a valid reason here
sand sibling and their sensei ->valid reason
but 20+ other sand jonin -> no one notices and not a valid reason
itachi comes -> no one notices and no valid reason

leaf was not in the best of shape under hiruzen .....he was too soft sometimes...more caring rather than daring

@bold how is surendering a comrade who tried to save his daughter to an enemy nation prove the strength of konoha

i'm trying to change your mind about Danzo and also make you understand though Danzo made rash decisions and did cruel things he always had the leaf village in his heart

You mean Orochimaru, a Sannin, celebrated legendary prodigy, who mastered the Body Transfer forbidden jutsu after putting in years of his life into it, took the life and body of a Grass village girl with it, came in unsuspected and that is supposed to be a surprise to me? :rofl:

@bold that wasn't what the argument was about now was it? Also, that plan of action suits Danzo well, even though Hiruzen had no choice to comply to avoid war.

20+ Jonin entered after a distraction was created by the Sand ninja with the summoning of a THREE HEADED SNAKE!

Itachi? are you kidding me? He was Anbu, he knew every nook and cranny of Konoha, and he was secretly on a mission to investigate Akatsuki, there was no danger from him. Hiruzen knew that.

lol and no one noticed Itachi? Am I arguing with a completely ignorant buffoon? If he was unnoticed then how come he had to fight Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma? lol

And how quickly were Konoha's assailants wiped out after villagers were safe? Go back and watch

Hiruzen and Naruto protected Konoha WITH the Will of Fire. Changed Gaara and crippled Orochimaru for years to come, also sealed away the souls of 2 former Hokage.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

It was a simple example, Calm yourself.

Again random crap you keep sprouting, The next page doesn't prove he put catching Hiruzen above the Leaf, if he did he wouldn't of wasted time creating the root in the first place.
He wouldn't of crushed shisui's eye befor death, He wouldn't of went to kabuto's orphanage and so on.

It was the wrong example and didn't prove he wasn't a coward.

Those are his last words bruh, his true last words. "What was I to you Hiruzen"? I think that settles it.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

It was a simple example, Calm yourself.

Again random crap you keep sprouting, The next page doesn't prove he put catching Hiruzen above the Leaf, if he did he wouldn't of wasted time creating the root in the first place.
He wouldn't of crushed shisui's eye befor death, He wouldn't of went to kabuto's orphanage and so on.

exaar my man
you are wasting your time here

 

[Anakin Skywalker]

You mean Orochimaru, a Sannin, celebrated legendary prodigy, who mastered the Body Transfer forbidden jutsu after putting in years of his life into it, took the life and body of a Grass village girl with it, came in unsuspected and that is supposed to be a surprise to me? :rofl:

@bold that wasn't what the argument was about now was it? Also, that plan of action suits Danzo well, even though Hiruzen had no choice to comply to avoid war.

20+ Jonin entered after a distraction was created by the Sand ninja with the summoning of a THREE HEADED SNAKE!

Itachi? are you kidding me? He was Anbu, he knew every nook and cranny of Konoha, and he was secretly on a mission to investigate Akatsuki, there was no danger from him. Hiruzen knew that.

lol and no one noticed Itachi? Am I arguing with a completely ignorant buffoon? If he was unnoticed then how come he had to fight Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma? lol

And how quickly were Konoha's assailants wiped out after villagers were safe? Go back and watch

Hiruzen and Naruto protected Konoha WITH the Will of Fire. Changed Gaara and crippled Orochimaru for years to come, also sealed away the souls of 2 former Hokage.

so all i see here is excuses for how feeble the leaf's security were under hiruzen ....
oh no its orochimaru the legendary sannin how are we supposed to stop him
oh no its a 3 headed snake how will we stop the other sand ninja
oh no it itachi he was a former anbu captain how do we stop him bla bla bla....

kakashi saw itachi at the center of the village ....good security means stoping him at the border or preventing him from entering at all...even after 3rd's death

and watch your words .... this not to discuss the efficiency of 3rd ... u created this to show Danzo was only selfish and didn't care about the leaf at all

this is what i've said abt that ...and i dont seem to get a reply for it

"i'm trying to change your mind about Danzo and also make you understand though Danzo made rash decisions and did cruel things he always had the leaf village in his heart"

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

so all i see here is excuses for how feeble the leaf's security were under hiruzen ....
oh no its orochimaru the legendary sannin how are we supposed to stop him
oh no its a 3 headed snake how will we stop the other sand ninja
oh no it itachi he was a former anbu captain how do we stop him bla bla bla....

kakashi saw itachi at the center of the village ....good security means stoping him at the border or preventing him from entering at all...even after 3rd's death

and watch your words .... this not to discuss the efficiency of 3rd ... u created this to show Danzo was only selfish and didn't care about the leaf at all

this is what i've said abt that ...and i dont seem to get a reply for it

"i'm trying to change your mind about Danzo and also make you understand though Danzo made rash decisions and did cruel things he always had the leaf village in his heart"

EXACTLY!! And I dont see Danzo or his men helping out in any attack on Konoha EVER!!

I have proved it with my thread, and you have not argued a single point from it!

I also just showed you with the examples of Naruto and Hiruzen, how the Will of Fire protected what Danzo and Oro had orchestrated to destroy, you have stopped making sense, I suggest you re-evaluate.

In the end, Konoha was protected completely, so what's your point?

 

[Exaar]

It was the wrong example and didn't prove he wasn't a coward.

Those are his last words bruh, his true last words. "What was I to you Hiruzen"? I think that settles it.

Him wanting to put himself forwards in the first place proves that he wasn't a complete coward.

And?, His final thoughts was for Hiruzen, that changed nothing, I'll ask again, If he was so selfish, Why did he go through the trouble of creating the root, Why Did he go through the trouble of going to kabuto's orphanage and so on.

"what was i to you hiruzen", You may think that proves something in your own little world.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Him wanting to put himself forwards in the first place proves that he wasn't a complete coward.

And?, His final thoughts was for Hiruzen, that changed nothing, I'll ask again, If he was so selfish, Why did he go through the trouble of creating the root, Why Did he go through the trouble of going to kabuto's orphanage and so on.

"what was i to you hiruzen", You may think that proves something in your own little world.

He never wanted that fight and was forced into it by Obito who wanted to give Sasuke his revenge, Danzo was fleeing back to Konoha after Sasuke glared at him at the summit.lol This is covered in my thread, Danzo was defending his right to live, he wasn't protecting or challenging shit!

:rofl:

He created Root to have support for forwarding his plans to become Hokage, as I remember, Orochimaru was part of Root, who implanted his Senju cells and Sharingan and attacked Konoha! He misused those poor Konoha ninjas for his own gain.
His last words prove his obsession with Hiruzen and "in the end I could not become Hokage" Proves his obsession with the Hokage title.

He was a selfish bitch and that notion still stands strong.

 

[Simple Math]

Danzo is the coolest character in the entire manga (no joke)

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Danzo is the coolest character in the entire manga (no joke)

I guarantee you didn't read the thread! Because :rofl:

 

[somniferous]

I read the entire thread twice......I agree with some points as "Facts" but you do have some opinions in there......don't get all insulted.

Just because someone differs with you does not mean they are insulting your intelligence.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

I read the entire thread twice......I agree with some points as "Facts" but you do have some opinions in there......don't get all insulted.

Just because someone differs with you does not mean they are insulting your intelligence.

In this case it is, because this is the only undeniable truth. Most people who think he did it for the village, do not know that that was his excuse to gain power FOR HIMSELF.

I know I sound arrogant, but trust me, I am mature and not a kid or even a teenager, I can clearly see his true nature.
Just read post #14 that sums him up.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

its people like danzo and other leaders leaf too that Kisame became who he is