Orochimaru: The Ultimate Antagonist [Proof]

[TurrinB]

Perhaps the best antagonist in Naruto, but i'm not sure the ultimate one.

 

[Zol]

Orochimaru has no goals. He wants to watch things move, because he's bored. Here's a real curveball:

Madara isn't attacking right now. Or being arrogant after the Kage fight. He seems different and more placated now. Why is that? And Kishi hasn't shown us Sasuke and Oro for awhile

Spoiler

What if Madara already lost his body to Orochimarum the master of Edo Tensei?

Nonsense. He talks exactly the same as before. He is obviously not attacking himself since he has the Juubi (which he just used to eradicate the HG).

 

[Griffith]

To be more of a grey character, that isn't really on the good side, but may be supporting them in one way or the other. It's quite common. Think of Sir Crocodile from One Piece for instance.

Naruto has more of a linear plot than One Piece so as much as i love croco, u cant really make that comparison

 

[Griffith]

Madara controls the Juubi.

lol ok

 

[Griffith]

Orochimaru has no goals. He wants to watch things move, because he's bored. Here's a real curveball:

Madara isn't attacking right now. Or being arrogant after the Kage fight. He seems different and more placated now. Why is that? And Kishi hasn't shown us Sasuke and Oro for awhile

Spoiler

What if Madara already lost his body to Orochimarum the master of Edo Tensei?

Thats conceivable, but i highly doubt this is the last arc.

 

[Zol]

Naruto has more of a linear plot than One Piece so as much as i love croco, u cant really make that comparison

That was just an example. It's very common plot device to bring back a once centerstage villain as a more subsitute character later on.

 

[Griffith]

That was just an example. It's very common plot device to bring back a once centerstage villain as a more subsitute character later on.

i highly doubt orochimaru plays a side role

 

[bukog]

of course lord ORO

 

[Zol]

i highly doubt orochimaru plays a side role

But ever since his failed attack on Konoha and the introduction of Akatsuki, he pretty much did. He was a side-villain from that point to his apparent death at Sasuke's hands.

 

[Griffith]

But ever since his failed attack on Konoha and the introduction of Akatsuki, he pretty much did. He was a side-villain from that point to his apparent death at Sasuke's hands.

he was fully aware of akatsukis plot and he knew Tobi wasnt Madara

 

[Zol]

he was fully aware of akatsukis plot and he knew Tobi wasnt Madara

We don't know about that. Kabuto knew that, but Kabuto isn't Oro.

But even if he knew, it wouldn't change anything about him being more on the sidelines.

 

[Griffith]

We don't know about that. Kabuto knew that, but Kabuto isn't Oro.

But even if he knew, it wouldn't change anything about him being more on the sidelines.

be honest, did u even read the thread? lol

 

[Sage6paths]

It cant be any more accurate. Orochimaru should indeed be the main antagonist. In the earlier episodes, when Sasuke was about to fight Naruto at the hideout, Oro appeared and stopped Sasuke. Saying he needed Konoha's assistance to eliminate the Akasutki.

Who's remaining? Only Obito and Madara. One by one, they went down. When they do, its Oro's turn to shine.

We all want to see what can Oro do with Sasuke's body right? Dont you!? I want to see it man.

 

[Griffith]

It cant be any more accurate. Orochimaru should indeed be the main antagonist. In the earlier episodes, when Sasuke was about to fight Naruto at the hideout, Oro appeared and stopped Sasuke. Saying he needed Konoha's assistance to eliminate the Akasutki.

Who's remaining? Only Obito and Madara. One by one, they went down. When they do, its Oro's turn to shine.

We all want to see what can Oro do with Sasuke's body right? Dont you!? I want to see it man.

exactly he played the sidelines b/c he did not want to start a conflict with Akatsuki as their plan did not interest him at all...so he let konoha hunt them down until there were 2

 

[Zol]

It cant be any more accurate. Orochimaru should indeed be the main antagonist. In the earlier episodes, when Sasuke was about to fight Naruto at the hideout, Oro appeared and stopped Sasuke. Saying he needed Konoha's assistance to eliminate the Akasutki.

Who's remaining? Only Obito and Madara. One by one, they went down. When they do, its Oro's turn to shine.

We all want to see what can Oro do with Sasuke's body right? Dont you!? I want to see it man.

He was naturally happy about them being taken out since they where after him in the first place - he has no grand plan or something for which he needed to get rid of them...

 

[Zol]

be honest, did u even read the thread? lol

I did. You didn't say anything about Oro knowing Tobi's identity.

 

[Griffith]

I did. You didn't say anything about Oro knowing Tobi's identity.

so u just ignore the abundance of evidence...smh

 

[Zol]

so u just ignore the abundance of evidence...smh

What evidence exactly? At best, there are some signs or hints. As I said, we don't know.

 

[Griffith]

What evidence exactly? At best, there are some signs or hints. As I said, we don't know.

/thread

 

[TimeMask]

Theory​

In the next arc (s), I feel as if we can expect Orochimaru to be the main and final antagonist. I believe Sasuke will finally overcome his hatred and lust for power and will agree to return to Konoha and be forgiven. However, I think Orochimaru will take control of his body before that occurs and the final battle between Sasuke and Naruto will actually be Naruto vs. Orochimaru in Sasuke's body (think about Riku and Ansem from Kingdom Hearts). Because of his knowledge regarding Rikudou Sennin, i think Orochimaru will upgrade Sasuke's body with Senju DNA along with any other tricks he has up his sleeves. This will be a fitting end to the series, in my opinion.​

Possible but if Sasuke is conscious and Orochimaru did the soul transfer then Sasuke could do what he did last time and trap Orochiamru's soul inside him and use Orochimaru's power.

And Orochiamru needs to stun Sasuke for a while to start the soul transfer, he would need some very strong edo ninja to do this.

For Orochimaru to take control of Sasuke's body he may need to knock Sasuke out which he doesn't have the power to do unless he got some very strong Edo Tensei ninja.