Sasuke is currently as strong, stronger or near strong as minato?

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Nice try but you're comparing Danzo the crippled old guy who's trump card was a bunch of stolen sharingan's on his arm and a sharingan that he can only use once every 10 years or some shit with Minato, 3rd Hokage, fastest ninja ever who invented the rasengan and FTG which only he is able to use to teleport anywhere he wants without seals. Even Sasuke wouldn't be able to follow his movements with sharingan because it's teleportation, it's instant so there's nothing to follow. Also Sasuke runs out of chakra too fast, he can't just sit there with susanoo active all day, he has a limited duration that he can maintain it, the moment he doesn't have chakra for it Minato can just teleport in with a rasengan and bury Sasuke into the ground. Minato is also great at sealing jutsu's, he could seal amaterasu or any snakes Sasuke summons. Don't forget that Minato can also teleport attacks anywhere he wants so no ranged attacks for Sasuke sadly unless it's ranged raikiri but that drains his chakra too fast as well, using that and susanoo at the same time will be the end of him.
Admit Sasuke can't win without help for once in your life people, every major fight he won had been with assistance too, even the Danzo battle since Danzo didn't want to waste his trump card on Sasuke...
 

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go away hinatoxnaruto fanbitch
Let me see here.
1) Avatar and signature of sasuke. Check
2) Avoids the topic and logic all together and goes straight to gradeschool name calling. Check
smh....
This is why Sasuke fanboys are given no credit on NB anymore, you either look like dubm@ss trolls or legitimately retarted children who happened to learn how to use a computer, either way its sad and all you do is make the other argument more valid.

Getting back on point, sasuke's arsenal: sussano (not perfect) being able to spam Amatetseru, tsumo, raiton jutsus.
1) Amatestseru argument is garbage, its no different than saying "kakashi can 1 hit hashirama if he uses kaumi on his head" Minato's speed makes amatetseru useless.
2) Tsumoyoki: We haven't seen minato against Genjutsu. But you have to again have minato be slow enough and stupid enough to be caught in it. Slow and stupid are the exact opposite of the Minato that we have read.
3)Raiton jutsus....I lol'ed
 
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you guys think minato only became hokage because of flying thunder god and rasengan? -.- he's got a lot of other skills as well that we dun know like sealings jutsu for example -.- hell he could even know sage mode for all we know -.-
 

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well maybe.

If Sasuke can hold his own against Naruto, which he might or might not, he surely can hold his own against Minato, given that Naruto must be at least equal to Minato by now(?)
 

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let see minato cannot throw his rasengan he have to get closer to sasuke and that's the climax because,sasuke has blaze release he can manipulate the amaterasu to burn the opponent and to protect him against close combat.
if you are talking about anime then you should know that raikage burnt his hand attacking sasuke from the blind spot and was about to be killed by the amaterasu if gaara wouldn't interfere with his sand armor.
Now tell me what do you have to say about this ?????????????????????????????
 

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but i see
hahahahahahaha

(There are techniques you listed that he has even never shown like the water release for example, but whatever. I don't know where number of techniques helps if you have little to no time to even use them. Like i've said, Minato is far too fast for him that he won't even have time to react. Minato is not dodging anything. It's Sasuke the one who must try his best to keep up. The advantage in Minato jutsus is that they are instant need no handseals to be used, so he will always have the upper hand in terms of speed and jutsu speed ) by bogard.



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minato never fought with a sharingan user and according to the anime uchiha are superior in a one on one battle.
sasuke has greater eye sight then any one and even killer bee was able to react by one of his eight swords against minato's flying- thunder god so sasuke has a upper hand and also he can predict movements faster than anyone with his sharingan.
when bee used lariat on sasuke,the latter dodged him and bee praised that he was the second one to dodge his lariat so the first one will be either A or Minato.
So,what do you think (bogard)
 
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I do give Sasuke the upper hand in terms of raw power, but Minato can do so much with the jutsus he has, plus if Sasuke gets tagged even once I believe it's over. Both are no novices when it comes to combat.

My main question is, and I think it would really determine the out come; could Minato use the teleporting jutsu like he did with a TBB somehow in any way against susanoo. Susanoo is the only thing protecting Sasuke from getting annihilated and is also his main key to victory seeing as I don't think he can out smart/plan Minato, even though he is damn good at strategizing himself as seen in the Deidara fight.

Haven't seen much of Minato, we know he hardly gets touched and he is fast enough with FTG to cancel Kamui which I think is a valuable feat. What we have seen of (E)MS Sasuke is basically spamming OP techs because he was either pissed off/emotional or needed to due to his high level opponents.
 

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can't believe this shit is still going on? Also its posted in the wrong sevtion

Sasuke fanboys has proved once again that no one is dumber than them, Minato takes this with Mid diff

If you want a detailed thread about this matter just use the search button you might find my Post where I've posted Every counter to EMS Sasuke's abilities and how Sasuke is unable to counter Minato's abilities
You have such a brazenly asinine and exceedingly insulting stance to the whole matter. I was not even going to respond to this thread, but Okay.

Disprove all these posts I made in another thread:

Minato's FGT techniques requires either tagging or planting a kuani for it. How is Minato getting out of Magatama’s wide range or dodging a barrage of bullet-like Amatersu Magatama? By planting a bazillion kunais everywhere?
How is he countering a speedy scatter of Amatersu Magatama or an encasement of Kagatsuchi?

Arrows, Kirin, Magatama, chidori varients, sussano grabs and punches; how many will he counter with ftg?. Amatersu is instant, as it took Raikage two techniques to barely dodge it. Minato may dodge one, two, three, and what about tiny amatersu bullets of Magatama that are just as unavoidable? How many kunais will be plant?
Amatersu Kagausuchi will keep Minato at bey, which he can do with a wall of amatersu around himself as well.

How many times can he use this barrier when Sasuke can spam his arrows over and over again?
Enton flames basically, so they are a tad bit slower than Amatersu as they are not instant like Amatersu's eye focus, but nowhere near as sluggish as Enton manipulation.
How is it even remotely possible to dodge several bullets of amatersu/enton at once? Show me a page kindly, where Minato has dodged multiple fast techniques like Magatama's, something as instant as arrows that made Kakashi use Kamui, kirins that is 1/1000 of a second, Chidori Senbon that fires countless lightening needles at an opponents vitals etc etc or anything at this level? He hasn't in the manga. In fanfiction he may have done it.

Magatama is like bullets and they are fired at random. No matter how fast anyone is, they cannot dodge a barrage of bullets. Since Minato hasn't dodged anything along these lines, you have nothing to prove to me that he can. During the Kage fight, he fought A, Gaara, and five other jounins and that was MS. This is EMS, which puts no stress on the body, and latest scans prove that it has reduced chakra consumption considerably, as his eyes didn't bleed at all when he put up a complete sussano, and used Amatersu to take out zetsus. His eye bled very little when he used a thick wall of pure amatersu to guard himself and Itachi during is fight with Kabuto. He showed no signs of fatigue on any level.
It was never suggested that Minato had a very vast amount of chakra, when it has been repeatedly said that Sasuke's chakra was more sinister than Madara's - as put by Kyuubi - and Uchiha clan are gifted with a large amount of chakra. Even as a child Sasuke had a large – according to Kakashi an incomparable amount of chakra. So saying that Minato will simply out-do Sasuke here, is not supported by Manga at all. Unless you don't show me any scans that Minato has dodged anything along the lines of Sasuke's spam-able abilities, he's not repeatedly dodging anything just because you say so.
Minato's FTG works on either touching the opponent to tag him or planting a Kunai. How many will he plant to Dodge all this? Minato has not shown anything along the lines. Since he hasn't, you cannot keep pressing it on FTG logic over and over again, as it's severely limited to tagging and FTG kunai.
What good would it do for him to teleport a mile out of the battle ground? Seems like a stupid tactic, because by the time he gets back, Sasuke can lay the whole field under plenty enton flames. And if isn’t insaly lucky, he will land in one the second e teleports back. Secondly, how is Minato getting around Kirin and Sussano? He is not faster than 1/1000th of a second, pal.
What would he do to dodge those speeding enton galling gun bullets, arrows, amatersu, chirodi senbon? Keep on disappearing and reappearing on the field in a flash? And you think that not a single one will hit him? Is that even remotely possible, when Minato has not shown such a feat in the manga at all?
As for Minato teleporting TBB then it is freaking sluggish:

- - See the chakra gathering in its mouth? Not only was Minato able to deliver a dialogue, but he formed seals as well.

- - Chakra gathering, and Mintao had enough time to summon the toad to stop it: . If this isn't sluggish, then I don't know what is : and the TBB is still charging in its mouth. You call this a quick technique?

- - See him using his special Kunai to relocate the blast else where? Look at him standing at the corner, relocating the blast, as he has to because his technique doesn't work like Obito's. He can't simply take things in and not do anything with them. Both his technques FTG and S/T barrier are teleportation techniques. Now while he's transporting an attack after putting it through the barrier, he won't be open to any attacks? He'll be dead the second he decides to use this barrier.

If he could use S/T technique while using FTG, or use its seals while moving, why didn't he teleport Kushina here?

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In these images, he could only transport himself while holding Naruto using FTG. This means, he can't use his barrier while running or whatever as you suggest. There is nothing in the manga to suggest, or illustrate this. Since it isn't in the manga, it isn't happening. Minato is not winning this, simple as that.


Along with a post from this thread:

This thread has officially turned into a troll thread with hind-quarters' pulls. FTG requires either tagging or FTG kunai to teleport instantly to that location. Sussano erection is about as fast as Kirin as Itachi was able to put it up before Kirin could hit him, and Sasuke put up a rib-cage to avoid a fatal injury from raiger bomb.

How will Mintao tag him any way? As far as S/T Barrier is concerned, then that technique requires 5 hand seals. It's a sluggish technique compared to Magatama, Arrows, and Amatersu. Arrows are extremely fast as Danzo had to use up one of his eyes and Izanagi in the process as he said that 'there was no time for hand seals', and Kakashi said that they were so fast, that Kamui was his only option.

You people are telling me that he'll just stand there and let Minato use the barrier technique? Also, how is he touching a Sussano encased in enton (Kagasuchi) or getting past a wall of Amatersu around Sussano? Or how will he counter a barrage of countless magatamas, and the new countless enton projectiles Sasuke can make at whim? Let me guess, by keeping a billion FTG kunais in his pocket and scattering a bazillion more to keep disappearing and reappearing?

This thread is a bucket full of laughs. Sasuke is much stronger than Minato. Let it go, haters and fanboys. Minato is not wining this from any angle.
Mind countering all this? Mr. I am so so intelligent in the art of conversation, debate, and what not.
 

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Wow this thread takes the cake for fanboy thread of the week... for thinking sasuke has speed on par with the 4th hokage. Power isn't everything. I doubt the 1st beat madara and the ninetails off of straight power. Unless sasuke puts amaterasu flames on himself in the beginning of the fight he has no chance. Minato is unbeatable. everytime sasuke does a tech minato just flashes his way to the next kunai...minato can hit sasuke but sasuke can't hit minato.

(There are techniques you listed that he has even never shown like the water release for example, but whatever. I don't know where number of techniques helps if you have little to no time to even use them. Like i've said, Minato is far too fast for him that he won't even have time to react. Minato is not dodging anything. It's Sasuke the one who must try his best to keep up. The advantage in Minato jutsus is that they are instant need no handseals to be used, so he will always have the upper hand in terms of speed and jutsu speed ) by bogard.



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minato never fought with a sharingan user and according to the anime uchiha are superior in a one on one battle.
sasuke has greater eye sight then any one and even killer bee was able to react by one of his eight swords against minato's flying- thunder god so sasuke has a upper hand and also he can predict movements faster than anyone with his sharingan.
when bee used lariat on sasuke,the latter dodged him and bee praised that he was the second one to dodge his lariat so the first one will be either A or Minato.
So,what do you think (bogard)
First off sasuke is no sword master compared to killer bee. He lost in that contest as well.2) ill give you the dodge lariat but minato is 5 times more instant. He has no chance in terms of dodging. He can use blaze release and that's about it.3) sasuke won't win because he won't have reaction time and hed never hit minato. Maybe if he used his brains and burned the entire area to get rid of his seals. But that is merely assumtion.4) people make it seem like his ftg tech is sumthing to play with. The people that are dead are dead for a reason. If minato was alive edo madara would be ****ed. Instant seal.
 
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First off sasuke is no sword master compared to killer bee. He lost in that contest as well.2) ill give you the dodge lariat but minato is 5 times more instant. He has no chance in terms of dodging. He can use blaze release and that's about it.3) sasuke won't win because he won't have reaction time and hed never hit minato. Maybe if he used his brains and burned the entire area to get rid of his seals. But that is merely assumtion.4) people make it seem like his ftg tech is sumthing to play with. The people that are dead are dead for a reason. If minato was alive edo madara would be ****ed. Instant seal.
- Sasuke is pretty good with his sword as well, as he was able tp pin down one of Kabuto's snake's while he was in DSM mode. This is immense precision. He may not be at Bee's level, but he's no slouch.
- I don't believe so. As the tables were turned at the end. Bee himself admitted that Sasuke was the toughest opponent he ever fought.
- Manga proof? Yes, Minato was faster than A, but I have never read anything like 5 times. Also, your points make no sense as I am not talking about Sasuke's sword skills or his raw speed. What are you getting at with this?
- Which reaction time? He doesn't need to fight Minato at taijustu level. He can just erect his sussano, which is shown to be quite fast in its formation, almost as fast as Kirin which 1/1000 of a second. And Minato isn't faster or anywhere near as fast as lightening.
- How many areas would he tag and how many kunais will he carry to dodge a barrage of Magatama which hit the target at random and are like bullets?
- This base's assumptions are the reason why characters like Minato are over-hyped. His FTG is useless without his Kunai and Tagging.
- Seal what? By killing himself, like he did with Kurama? It would happen the other way around. Minato is nothing compared to non-edo EMS Madara even, let alone an Edo, and I can gladly prove this as well.
 

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Its actually painful to read PretaPath's posts. They're so ignorant, it seems like he's never read the manga before. If you have a brain, how can you say that sasuke is smarter than minato. Sasuke is a half blind susanno spammer. He can't fight without his mangekyou anymore. Minato comes up behind him with FTG and sticks a rasengan in his ass. It would be another episode of bee vs. sasuke except there wouldn't be anyone to save him when all his organs have been blown out.
 
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