PROOF:_ Jiraya is stronger than Itachi

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This thread is not for Fanboys but for the logical and smart majority of NB. Please read this with open mind.:)

Jiraya's Physical abilities=> Itachi's Physical abilities
Jiraya's firestyle and earthstyle >Itachi's fire style and water style (ELEMENTS)
Jiraya's stamina and chakra> Itachi Chakra and Stamina

1.Itachi's Amateresu was dodged by Sasuke who didn't knew about it, Jiraya has seen it and did some research on it, so it is dodgeble, cause unlike Sasuke's Blaze Release it is slower and intelligent ninja's can dodge it(Sasuke did it and Jiraya knows about it).
2.Jiraya will not fall for Genjutsu he's no kid, nor is he arrogant like Oro(when he becomes serious,......), because like Kabuto, he and all of leaf village knows about Itachi's Genjutsu now.EVRYBODY KNOWS NOT TO LOOK HIM IN THE EYE(Kakashi knew it)
3.His susanoo attacks are dodgeable and those who say otherwise are fanboys,Remember that Jiraya's Rasengan is know to have broken down mountains,then why can't Jiraya quickly go to the back Susanoo and spam it avoiding the shield and sword. A Logical Method.
4.His Toad Gourd Summon and crusshing toad stomach is the most strongest summon i have seen, and if not for capturing itachi it can be used to immobilise Susanoo. Also the Jutsu Jiray used on the first encounter of Itachi and Kisame is quite useful.
5. Jiraya will last long. Itachi uses Susanoo in the worst of cases and when he uses it, it harms him to such extent that moving becomes difficulty for him. Also Amateresu can be spammed by him only 3-4 times and it depletes his chakra greatly.
6. Once Jiraya is in SM Itachi will face the greatest threat he has ever seen. Jiraya's Sound Genjutsu(Maa and Paa) is a difficult obstacle for Itachi to manage.
7. Itachi is smarter so he may use his creativity.

Kishi has always tried to make us realise that J-man is stronger than Itachi, but we always ignore it, is it our ignorance or what. I respect Itach greatly but he is not on par with Sannins. Oro fell for a genjutsu, because he has alway been ignorant and from then never went close to Itachi as he is really afraid to die.Oro is not Gutsy like Jiraya. Sasuke himself admitted that he would have not defeated Oro if he was healthy, maybe Oro would be a little stronger than him,and Sasuke was able to take Itachi one on one, although Itachi proved to be a little stronger. Again in the fight between Sasuke and Itachi, oro used his big summon and was careless to get caught by Itachi's Totsuka blade(because once the blade is in, it is game over). This proves what i have been saying Oro is a little arrogant that causes him to lose.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS.
 
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I'd say it's possible, but getting behind Itachi is a lot harder than it sounds. His summons would just be sealed because I doubt they're fast enough to dodge the sworde, especially if you want them to immobilize susanoo or amaterasu them, and he can cast genjutsu without the use of his eyes....just like he did to naruto when he waved his finger.

I'm not saying Jiraiya can't win, but I'd still bet on Itachi.
 

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How nice of you to leave out that itachi has water style
1.wrong
2.wrong
3.stupid
4.Oh man that's wrong
5.just no
6.sm kabuto was a much bigger threat then sm jiraiya
7.right
 

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1. Itachi wasn't trying to hit Sasuke and kill him. Of course he's gonna miss.
2. True. Jiraiya is a pro at spying/having intel.
3. Idt you can just say he can magically get behind Itachi. That's illogical. Could work, but illogical.
4. Idk which summon that is.
5. True.
6. True.
7. True.

Overall, I say they both win 5/10.
 

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If J-man dosent look into is eyes to avoid genjustsu he wouldnt see amaterasu coming and yea other things to point out but dont have the time
 

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Jiraiya will win if the fight lasts more than, say, 30 minutes. Itachi's really strong but he has poor stamina and his eye techniques are very taxing.
 

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Sage mode counters Mangekeyo sharingan. Even incomplete sage mode. Jiraiya has more experience and a bigger range of techs and counters. He wins like ITACHI said
We know now itachi always worked for konoha so doesnt that eman he would try to convince kisame not to fight jiraiya to help konoha? And the fact is itachi has beat orochimaru TWICE jiraiya has not beat him once.
 

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Yawn, i Can refute your entire thread without breaking a sweat.. won't brother since you think rasengan can even scratch a susanno...
Fools debate
 

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Itachi will fry him in a frying pan, serve him on a plate joined with eggs, bacon, and a cruchy toast then he eats him up for breakfast.
 
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How nice of you to leave out that itachi has water style
1.wrong
2.wrong
3.stupid
4.Oh man that's wrong
5.just no
6.sm kabuto was a much bigger threat then sm jiraiya
7.right
Everything i said had merit and was a known fact and SM Kabuto was too much for Itachi. Only Izaanagi would have defeated him which ofcource is not effective on Jiraya because he's the good guy. Also without Edo tensei SM Kabuto=Jiraya ( because Jiraya has all those summons, Barrier: Toad Gourd Prison, and Crushing Toad Stomach as and edge over Kabuto)
 

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Everything i said had merit and was a known fact and SM Kabuto was too much for Itachi. Only Izaanagi would have defeated him which ofcource is not effective on Jiraya because he's the good guy. Also without Edo tensei SM Kabuto=Jiraya ( because Jiraya has all those summons, Barrier: Toad Gourd Prison, and Crushing Toad Stomach as and edge over Kabuto)
Those are not facts they are your opinions. And it was izanami not izanagi. And Manda2.0>every toad jiraiya has and sm kabuto himself would slap jiraiya around.
 

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We know now itachi always worked for konoha so doesnt that eman he would try to convince kisame not to fight jiraiya to help konoha? And the fact is itachi has beat orochimaru TWICE jiraiya has not beat him once.

You have a point but I'll counter this with facts not dumb fanboy talk.

In a real fight what was susano'o's weakness. Attacks to the user. The only attack that could get to a susano'o user is sound genjutsu. What is Sage jiraiya's most powerful move in sage mode. That sound genjutsu with Ma and Pa used was strong enough to counter the Rinnegan which is superior to the MS.

Sage mode also allows you a type of sixth sense which will allow Jiraiya to sense the amateratsu.

Tsukiyomi could easily be countered by having Ma and Pa disruptJiraiya's chakra. That beats itachi's main three moves right there..
 
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