Thinking Kakashi can take itachi or sasuke (with logic, reason and evidence)

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Kakashi shit on his pants after using 1 kamui. Guess what next time Sasuke never gonna blind. I like Kakashi and style but he is not in Uchiha's League. Sorry.

are you updated with the manga ... fighting 2 day non stop , using multiple raikiris , clone and raikiri chain along with fking four kamuis and the guy is still going

 

[Download]

i'm not sure for 1 thing can kakashi kamui an amateratsu which has come in contact with him without kamuiing his arm or leg for example this is the only thing that bothers me but you did very good

 

[Sazzi]

All false. They have the same exact stats in databook 3, except Genjutsu with itachi has by half a point.

I really dont care about stats in a databook... kakashi is not as resilient as itachi, a serious itachi can see through kakashi's fakes and counter with his own (him faking out a clone of itachi is not faking out itachi as he did wen he was with naruto), he has a butt load more chakra, and the series kakashi knows very well he cant beat itachi heads up... and as far as im concerned wen the character themselves say they cant beat someone it loses credit saying they can... also someone said something about sasuke being able to spam ems now... yes he can, to a point, he still has a problem with not keeping his reserves for a long fight, if he fought kakashi he would be irritated at the begining for being challanged by wat he believes to be a weakling, and start throwing lots of chakra at him to end it quickly, wen kakashi uses clones or counters to dodge these, he will go into spam ms mode, now ms...ems... watever the case sasuke does not have infinite chakra and these are very costly techniques, if kakashi can keep clone dodging or countering up he can run sasuke out of chakra, and an exhausted sasuke is succeptible to a quick hidden kill from kakashi... not saying it would happen everytime... but its possible... so once again.... possible to beat sasuke... would take a miracle to beat itachi...

 

[Sasuke1025]

Everyone keeps saying kakashi has low chakra but are not saying the fact that It has greatly improved in the ninja war.
And since when did itachi have great chakra? Didn't kisame tell him not to use those eyes too much? He was already seeing the affects after using a basic Genjutsu on kakashi. He is also nearly blind....and kakashi knows this. No way itachi has a guaranteed win.

Ya he used it a lot but after he uses it he gets slower because of pain n chakra. Y do u think tht he doesn't use kamui a lot in a 1v1

 

[Sasuke1025]

i remember he was about to kamui the ****ing

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Wrong it was 2 big 4 his he was going to kamui his neck so it'll chop his head
N susanoo is as big maybe bigger than gedo head

 

[Minator93]

Kakashi is highly underestimated in this thread U_U

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[yondaime4]

I really dont care about stats in a databook... kakashi is not as resilient as itachi, a serious itachi can see through kakashi's fakes and counter with his own (him faking out a clone of itachi is not faking out itachi as he did wen he was with naruto), he has a butt load more chakra, and the series kakashi knows very well he cant beat itachi heads up... and as far as im concerned wen the character themselves say they cant beat someone it loses credit saying they can... also someone said something about sasuke being able to spam ems now... yes he can, to a point, he still has a problem with not keeping his reserves for a long fight, if he fought kakashi he would be irritated at the begining for being challanged by wat he believes to be a weakling, and start throwing lots of chakra at him to end it quickly, wen kakashi uses clones or counters to dodge these, he will go into spam ms mode, now ms...ems... watever the case sasuke does not have infinite chakra and these are very costly techniques, if kakashi can keep clone dodging or countering up he can run sasuke out of chakra, and an exhausted sasuke is succeptible to a quick hidden kill from kakashi... not saying it would happen everytime... but its possible... so once again.... possible to beat sasuke... would take a miracle to beat itachi...

i was with you up until you said kakashi would out last sasuke, really? ems means less chakra consumption and you think kakashi would outlast blaze release? not to mention madara perfected his susanoo with ems, and if sasuke does(not a stretch imo) its game over can you agree?

 

[MorphyRulez]

are you updated with the manga ... fighting 2 day non stop , using multiple raikiris , clone and raikiri chain along with fking four kamuis and the guy is still going

Last i checked Susano'o Arrow needs less chakra than Kamui even it's kind of auto-attack. I'm not saying New Amaterasu Orb thing. How many times Kakashi can spam kamui? 10? If you are acting like a Kakashi can spam kamui, i would say Sasuke spam Amaterasu/Susano'o arrow. + If you noticed, i'm not counting Itachi.
And you are saying Kakashi could counter Amaterasu with Kamui like Tobi did, What if Sasuke lands amaterasu to Kakashi's back? How could he look at his back? It's not work same as Tobi. I'm agree with this current Kakashi is really really stronger but still can't beat them. Think about that way, Sasuke and Naruto always equal, This balance won't be change. Just in the end Good guys wins with plots thats the story.

 

[Sazzi]

i was with you up until you said kakashi would out last sasuke, really? ems means less chakra consumption and you think kakashi would outlast blaze release? not to mention madara perfected his susanoo with ems, and if sasuke does(not a stretch imo) its game over can you agree?

perfect susanoo and sasuke cant lose to kakashi agree'd... ems has never been explained to me as less chakra consumption... ems only saves u from blindness and it says it could open one more tech thats all ive ever seen it say, so yes, even with ems kakashi can make sasuke run out of chakra if he enrages him to throw everything at him and he keeps dodges and fakes and counters down to low cost techniques... while geting his hits in at the same time...

 

[Sasuke1025]

I think it all comes down to Susanoo. If he really can counter that then I think he has a good chance of beating them.

Also, yes about Kamui-ing (made up word) amaterasu. Obito and Kakashi have the same eye, that's already confirmed. Obito has already countered Amaterasu with his eye so I'm quite confident Kakashi could do the same.

No because obito kamui sucks things in his eyes but Kakashi kamui makes a black hole to a different dimension so he can chose what he sucks in or not

 

[Mrmojo8484]

I really dont care about stats in a databook... kakashi is not as resilient as itachi, a serious itachi can see through kakashi's fakes and counter with his own (him faking out a clone of itachi is not faking out itachi as he did wen he was with naruto), he has a butt load more chakra, and the series kakashi knows very well he cant beat itachi heads up... and as far as im concerned wen the character themselves say they cant beat someone it loses credit saying they can... also someone said something about sasuke being able to spam ems now... yes he can, to a point, he still has a problem with not keeping his reserves for a long fight, if he fought kakashi he would be irritated at the begining for being challanged by wat he believes to be a weakling, and start throwing lots of chakra at him to end it quickly, wen kakashi uses clones or counters to dodge these, he will go into spam ms mode, now ms...ems... watever the case sasuke does not have infinite chakra and these are very costly techniques, if kakashi can keep clone dodging or countering up he can run sasuke out of chakra, and an exhausted sasuke is succeptible to a quick hidden kill from kakashi... not saying it would happen everytime... but its possible... so once again.... possible to beat sasuke... would take a miracle to beat itachi...

Mistake no.1- Saying you don't care about the stats in the databook. Ok. Im glad you created Naruto.

Mistake no.2- How in the hell is he more resiliant that Kakashi? He fight 2 akatsuki members at once,had it out with zabuza, fought itachi,fought pain,fought the 7 swordsmen for 2 days straight,multiple kamuis of all sizes.....dude GTFO

 

[sindi1997]

LOL so your logic is I think kakashi can't be taken down twice by the same technique wtf ? kakashi admited he would be taken down by the technique agian when he faced itachi in shippuden and going by that logic i can also say that itachi is a master suiton user because he used a s rank suiton tech that doesn't make him at all and tsukyomi itachi s ver requires uchiha blood to be broken or probabily Masive chakra reserves in every case even if kakashi Somehow god knows how brakes tsukyomi he ll be down crying Like a bitch it only took a second And kakashi was On the ground remember last tskyomi let s face facts here you are fanboying cuz you probabily like kakashi to much Or hate itachi and sasuke as for sasuke he doesn't stand a chance all sasuke has to do is activate susanoo And avaterasu the shit out of kakashi since he has ems he can spam them bye bye

 

[End of Days]

Wrong it was 2 big 4 his he was going to kamui his neck so it'll chop his head
N susanoo is as big maybe bigger than gedo head

No because obito kamui sucks things in his eyes but Kakashi kamui makes a black hole to a different dimension so he can chose what he sucks in or not

oh yeah thanx, but then thats even easier, just focus kamui on the user inside the susanoo and send him to other dimension, like ripping the neck :ice:

 

[Mrmojo8484]

LOL so your logic is I think kakashi can't be taken down twice by the same technique wtf ? kakashi admited he would be taken down by the technique agian when he faced itachi in shippuden and going by that logic i can also say that itachi is a master suiton user because he used a s rank suiton tech that doesn't make him at all and tsukyomi itachi s ver requires uchiha blood to be broken or probabily Masive chakra reserves in every case even if kakashi Somehow god knows how brakes tsukyomi he ll be down crying Like a bitch it only took a second And kakashi was On the ground remember last tskyomi let s face facts here you are fanboying cuz you probabily like kakashi to much Or hate itachi and sasuke as for sasuke he doesn't stand a chance all sasuke has to do is activate susanoo And avaterasu the shit out of kakashi since he has ems he can spam them bye bye

LOL...I dont know whats more funny....your grammar or what you actually said. For one,the water jutsu itachi used was not S rank, 2nd,I said that he could possibly trick itachi into using genjutsu on a clone due to itachi blindness and kakashis skill with making clones.

 

[Lilt]

Kakashi could win by virtue of Kamui, but in terms of their base abilities, Itachi is just more skilled, and is virtuosic at casting genjutsu, ninjutsu, and using weapons. He also has legendary weapons and four, not one, Mangekyō techniques as well as knowledge fo Sharingan kinjutsu. The only area they're even in is intellect, but even that is starting to give Itachi a bit of the edge after his feats against Kabuto and Nagato.

 

[Sazzi]

Mistake no.1- Saying you don't care about the stats in the databook. Ok. Im glad you created Naruto.

Mistake no.2- How in the hell is he more resiliant that Kakashi? He fight 2 akatsuki members at once,had it out with zabuza, fought itachi,fought pain,fought the 7 swordsmen for 2 days straight,multiple kamuis of all sizes.....dude GTFO

lol... zabuza would of killed him in the first encounter if he did not have the team there....fought itachi and got put into a coma... fought the 7 swordsman with a buttload of backup... so yea... good comeback.... im not saying kakashi is weak, cause ive already argued once today about how strong he is... but no he can not win against itachi... and once again i can go through that book and call out all kinds of how ppl can use tech's against other ppl's techs and win even though that book states it as stronger or weaker, so no... the lil data book and the lil tech lists ppl make for the rp'ers means lil to nothing to me... i go off wat i ve seen in the series...

 

[Sasuke1025]

perfect susanoo and sasuke cant lose to kakashi agree'd... ems has never been explained to me as less chakra consumption... ems only saves u from blindness and it says it could open one more tech thats all ive ever seen it say, so yes, even with ems kakashi can make sasuke run out of chakra if he enrages him to throw everything at him and he keeps dodges and fakes and counters down to low cost techniques... while geting his hits in at the same time...

Yea EMS would let u use ur eye tech with less chakra

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Kakashi could win by virtue of Kamui, but in terms of their base abilities, Itachi is just more skilled, and is virtuosic at casting genjutsu, ninjutsu, and using weapons. He also has legendary weapons and four, not one, Mangekyō techniques as well as knowledge fo Sharingan kinjutsu. The only area they're even in is intellect, but even that is starting to give Itachi a bit of the edge after his feats against Kabuto and Nagato.

How is he more skilled at ninjutsu? Kakashi has a wider range. If anything they are equals in ninjutsu. And how many of those 4 MS techs are useful against Kakashi? Maybe 1,Amateratsu. I m pretty sure he knows thanks to guy that Tsyukiomi works thru eye contact. Izanami is useless against kakashi because he doesnt use izanagi or try to be somthing hes not and he could kamui susanoo.

 

[Sasuke1025]

oh yeah thanx, but then thats even easier, just focus kamui on the user inside the susanoo and send him to other dimension, like ripping the neck :ice:

Haha no problem n tht was my bad I meant 2 say obito can choose what he sucks up but Kakashi can't since its like a black hole it'll suck in everything around it n susano'O will still b in the way of his visions so he would need 2 kamui susanoo first

 

[Mrmojo8484]

lol... zabuza would of killed him in the first encounter if he did not have the team there....fought itachi and got put into a coma... fought the 7 swordsman with a buttload of backup... so yea... good comeback.... im not saying kakashi is weak, cause ive already argued once today about how strong he is... but no he can not win against itachi... and once again i can go through that book and call out all kinds of how ppl can use tech's against other ppl's techs and win even though that book states it as stronger or weaker, so no... the lil data book and the lil tech lists ppl make for the rp'ers means lil to nothing to me... i go off wat i ve seen in the series...

If i went of by what I see in the series then Kakashi is better at ninjutsu and taijutsu since all we see is itachi spam genjutsu. Thats your logic by the way.