Thinking Kakashi can take itachi or sasuke (with logic, reason and evidence)

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Everyone keeps saying kakashi has low chakra but are not saying the fact that It has greatly improved in the ninja war.
And since when did itachi have great chakra? Didn't kisame tell him not to use those eyes too much? He was already seeing the affects after using a basic Genjutsu on kakashi. He is also nearly blind....and kakashi knows this. No way itachi has a guaranteed win.
 

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I beleive he can take sasuke... but not itachi... itachi is stronger, faster, and more of a strategist than kakashi, and was handled by itachi with minimal effort in their first encounter... in a serious fight, i believe kakashi would lose to one of itachi's many fake traps... against sasuke i believe he can win by the same way he would lose to itachi... kakashi could trap sasuke in my opinion due to sasuke's blind rage and over confidence...
 

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His only advantage is Kamui, which can be easily countered by either of the two Uchiha mentioned above. Even if he uses kamui as a defensive attack, there are only so many times he can avoid amaterasu from EMS Sasuke and only so many times he can avoid a susanoo attack from either. Plus, Kakashi only managed to use kamui so much due to assistance of fellow shinobi. If this is a solo match, I see Kakashi being fried to a crisp. :|

Kakashi is cool, however. U_U
Again....itachi is nearly blind. Kakashi knows this. He couldn't even dodge a rigged shuriken from sasuke.
 
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I beleive he can take sasuke... but not itachi... itachi is stronger, faster, and more of a strategist than kakashi, and was handled by itachi with minimal effort in their first encounter... in a serious fight, i believe kakashi would lose to one of itachi's many fake traps... against sasuke i believe he can win by the same way he would lose to itachi... kakashi could trap sasuke in my opinion due to sasuke's blind rage and over confidence...

Blind rage and over confidence? Maybe.. But he is extremely observant and resourceful nonetheless. And he can spam his EMS now, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
 

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I think it all comes down to Susanoo. If he really can counter that then I think he has a good chance of beating them.

Also, yes about Kamui-ing (made up word) amaterasu. Obito and Kakashi have the same eye, that's already confirmed. Obito has already countered Amaterasu with his eye so I'm quite confident Kakashi could do the same.
 
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I beleive he can take sasuke... but not itachi... itachi is stronger, faster, and more of a strategist than kakashi, and was handled by itachi with minimal effort in their first encounter... in a serious fight, i believe kakashi would lose to one of itachi's many fake traps... against sasuke i believe he can win by the same way he would lose to itachi... kakashi could trap sasuke in my opinion due to sasuke's blind rage and over confidence...

All false. They have the same exact stats in databook 3, except Genjutsu with itachi has by half a point.
 

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dude your saying kakashis defense to everything is kamui, which imo is illogical.

1) im pretty sure i would give the ninjutsu to itachi because his ninjutsu is great enough to op kakashi(the big 3) nuff said i think (I agree with the other 3)

2) kakashi uses up alot of chakra with clones, and if they distract itachi well enough then kakashi can counter but thats a big if as in the battle you talk about itachi didnt take long to realize he was facing a clone.

3) i think that kamui can save kakashi from amaterasu maybe a couple times , but even still after using kamui kakashi takes more of a toll that itachi would take advantege of. when kakashi kamuied sasukes arrow he was wide open but luckily sasuke went blind or kakashi would have died as he said himself

4) susanoo , so by this time kakashi has used clones to avoid tsukuyomi, and kamui to dodge amaterasu, and you think he is going to kamui away susanoo? no this would be just like sasuke vs itachi minus oros eight headed serpent jutsu. itachi will walk him down and stab him to death.


not sayin kakashi sucks its just a bad fight for him imo, his best option against itachi is to beg for mercy muhahahaha

good thread tho nice try
 

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I think it all comes down to Susanoo. If he really can counter that then I think he has a good chance of beating them.

Agreed 100%. But if he can kamui the arrow then why not susanoo?
 

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nice thread bro i think current kakashi would beat sick itachi since he shows that he can spams kamui and he had that chakra boost and with sasuke unless he show something new from EMS kakashi can beat him aswell
 

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Current Kakashi is greater than both Itachi as well as Sasuke :scorps:
 

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Kakashi cannot defeat Sasuke or Itachi
 

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I doubt he stands a chance against itachie, against sasuke since he was kinda his teacher at a point he has a chance hell maybe could even beat him. you have to look at your oppenent to attack him and since by just looking at itachie he would get caught in his genjutsu. you bring up other valid points but dont forget kakashi doesn't have a load of chakra just like itachie. in my opinion itachie would overwhelm kakashi.
o now u r claiming itachi has more chakra than kakashi? Itachi has below avg stamina.
 

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dude your saying kakashis defense to everything is kamui, which imo is illogical.

1) im pretty sure i would give the ninjutsu to itachi because his ninjutsu is great enough to op kakashi(the big 3) nuff said i think (I agree with the other 3)

2) kakashi uses up alot of chakra with clones, and if they distract itachi well enough then kakashi can counter but thats a big if as in the battle you talk about itachi didnt take long to realize he was facing a clone.

3) i think that kamui can save kakashi from amaterasu maybe a couple times , but even still after using kamui kakashi takes more of a toll that itachi would take advantege of. when kakashi kamuied sasukes arrow he was wide open but luckily sasuke went blind or kakashi would have died as he said himself

4) susanoo , so by this time kakashi has used clones to avoid tsukuyomi, and kamui to dodge amaterasu, and you think he is going to kamui away susanoo? no this would be just like sasuke vs itachi minus oros eight headed serpent jutsu. itachi will walk him down and stab him to death.


not sayin kakashi sucks its just a bad fight for him imo, his best option against itachi is to beg for mercy muhahahaha

good thread tho nice try
so let me get this straight...kamui is a defense for anything? What hasn't he kamui yet? Hell the only person or thing it won't work on is Tobi. Until me or you see otherwise kamui>all ninjutsu>Tobi.
 

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Kakashi shit on his pants after using 1 kamui. Guess what next time Sasuke never gonna blind. I like Kakashi and style but he is not in Uchiha's League. Sorry.
 

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Amaterasu doesn't burn as slowly as people think. It took a very short time to burn through the entirety of Bee in BM, he only escaped because he moved his real body to a tentacle that wasn't on fire. Karin had the fire on her for a few seconds and passed out because of it. When the fire was on Edo Nagato, for the short time that it was, it burned completely through his arm and into his chest.

On things that fire actually burns, it does quick damage. People say it burns slowly just because of its use on the samurai armor. Metal doesn't really burn, it melts, and that takes longer to show than if fire was on flesh or something similar.

Without using MS, it would be a pretty good fight even though I think Itachi would take it with high difficulty. With MS, it just depends on who gets off Ama or Kamui first. I don't think that Kakashi's Kamui can warp just the flames off of his body.
 

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so let me get this straight...kamui is a defense for anything? What hasn't he kamui yet? Hell the only person or thing it won't work on is Tobi. Until me or you see otherwise kamui>all ninjutsu>Tobi.

what are you rambling about? did you even read my post? i said after using clones and kamui he would be in no condition to handle susanoo. and sasukes blaze release would own kakashi imo sasuke can spam amaterasu and control its movements without damaging his eyes
 
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