Plot no jutsu is not a real thing when Naruto vs Pain.

[questin1]

Again read the manga.....that happened AFTER Pain pinned him down.

Who saved him when Pain pinned him down...that's right, the Kyuubi did.

no Hinata was the cause of the 9 tails, again would still not say thanks for that Plot no jutsu

 

[questin1]

But he survived long enough to use it due to plot

so what your saying is SM = Plot no jutsu

 

[KidGamer65]

no Hinata was the cause of the 9 tails, again would still not say thanks for that Plot no jutsu

Either way the Nine-Tails still saved him...Naruto would have lost then and there had the Kyuubi not intervened.

 

[Itachi Minato]

naruto would have lost one one won in sm against pain. He only beat him cos hinata intervened and he turned into the kyuubi

 

[blackbird31468]

so what your saying is SM = Plot no jutsu

Even if Naruto had SM he wouldn't/couldn't have won without plot no jutsu.

 

[questin1]

Either way the Nine-Tails still saved him...Naruto would have lost then and there had the Kyuubi not intervened.

if someone saved you would you call that Plot no jutsu?

 

[Sasuke..]

LOL! if Naruto didn't talk Nagato's ass out of it he'd F- him up like he did in the war and he was with Bee and he had Bijuu mode, so don't say Naruto won that fight because if Hinata didn't randomly appear out of nowhere he'd be dead.

OYE PAIN'S INTENTION WASN'T TO KILL NARUTO PWNED.

 

[uncle sam]

Naruto...

started in sm

had 2 clones waiting to return him to sm

Nagato had to take him alive

had all his summons already there

deva was offline for a majority of it

naruto used kuramas power,despite giving a speech about how he wanted to get strong by himself.
How is this not PNJ..?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

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You made Gaara fall over -.-

 

[KidGamer65]

if someone saved you would you call that Plot no jutsu?

You aren't understanding this.....in your OP you said Naruto came up with a plan to beat Pain, when in reality he lost.

 

[questin1]

Naruto...

started in sm

had 2 clones waiting to return him to sm

Nagato had to take him alive

had all his summons already there

deva was offline for a majority of it

naruto used kuramas power,despite giving a speech about how he wanted to get strong by himself.
How is this not PNJ..?

there is no such thing as Plot no jutsu

 

[theRPGdude]

Thats pretty funny lol! I agree completely. Plot no jutsu does not exist. Only fillers

 

[SoupAddicttt]

You're all forgetting that Naruto was trying to protect Pa, then he got pinned down. Naruto trying to protect Pa, when it was obvious he couldn't do anything was also PNJ no?

 

[questin1]

You aren't understanding this.....in your OP you said Naruto came up with a plan to beat Pain, when in reality he lost.

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sure looks like a good plan

 

[questin1]

You're all forgetting that Naruto was trying to protect Pa, then he got pinned down. Naruto trying to protect Pa, when it was obvious he couldn't do anything was also PNJ no?

so your calling being a friends PNJ

 

[Simple Math]

LOL and didn't SM Naruto beat Deva in the end [after CT].

SM NAruto is far too underrated

you're already in conclusions

how would naruto break out of this himself?

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he did ask for help during the Neji fight and Naruto would still have him in a 1vs1 because he knows his abilities

show me a manga scan where he asked kyuubi for help against pain...
and im talking about before chapter 436 not after

 

[KidGamer65]

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sure looks like a good plan

Now you're just acting like a fool.

See this...this happened BEFORE the Rasengan to the gut.

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If it weren't for this

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This would be Naruto:

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[The God]

deva > sm naruto without plot or help

if you explain how naruto would've have broke out of this himself.. then i agree with you

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I dont get your point itachi explains to naruto that he cant do everything by himself he needs help from his friends so it fits perfectly for hinata to get involved and save him even if it is brief and all this about the kyuubi helping him, how long have you been watching naruto??

He pretty much uses kyuubi all the time to save himself from getting beat like with haku, orochimaru, sasuke, and basically everybody else so for you to complain about it now is nonsense because hes been doing this whole kyuubi mode since the beginning

its not plot no jutsu its just how kishi wants to write out the battle scenes

 

[questin1]

you're already in conclusions

how would naruto break out of this himself?

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show me a manga scan where he asked kyuubi for help against pain...
and im talking about before chapter 436 not after

i said during the Neji fight he asked he could have said they are going to take you and do who knows what, i think he would have gotten help

 

[questin1]

I dont get your point itachi explains to naruto that he cant do everything by himself he needs help from his friends so it fits perfectly for hinata to get involved and save him even if it is brief and all this about the kyuubi helping him, how long have you been watching naruto??

He pretty much uses kyuubi all the time to save himself from getting beat like with haku, orochimaru, sasuke, and basically everybody else so for you to complain about it now is nonsense because hes been doing this whole kyuubi mode since the beginning

its not plot no jutsu its just how kishi wants to write out the battle scenes

praise Jesus someone gets it