Plot no jutsu is not a real thing when Naruto vs Pain.

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Im getting tired of people saying Naruto won with shadow clone Plot no jutsu is forgive my language shittttttttttttttttttt, Naruto comes up with a plan and it works is NOT Plot no jutsu

Even Sauske being saved is NOT Plot no jutsu, he was saved by his friends, if your friends saved you, you wouldnt say thanks for that Plot no jutsu
 

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deva > sm naruto without plot or help

if you explain how naruto would've have broke out of this himself.. then i agree with you

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plot no jutsu. It exists... Naruto Beating Deva Path was plot no jutsu because shadow clones stopping an almigthy push is perfectly logical. Naruto was clearly outmatched even in Sage Mode but deva path loses to multiple shadow clones? Nagato kills himself after a talk no jutsu. They definitely exist.
 
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he has asked for the 9 tails help before MANY TIMES whats one more another way is Hinata saving him sorta, again would wouldnt say thanks for that Plot no jutsu
 

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Get over it, Naruto lost to Pain, then the Kyuubi intervened and saved him.

Naruto's clever plan to defeat Pain obviously failed, cause the Kyuubi is the only reason Pain lost.

LOL and didn't SM Naruto beat Deva in the end [after CT].

SM NAruto is far too underrated
The fight never would have made it to CT if Kyuubi never intervened.
 

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plot no jutsu. It exists... Naruto Beating Deva Path was plot no jutsu because shadow clones stopping an almigthy push is perfectly logical. Naruto was clearly outmatched even in Sage Mode but deva path loses to multiple shadow clones? Nagato kills himself after a talk no jutsu. They definitely exist.
no thats his PLAN they would not have done that if it was not the plan
 

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he has asked for the 9 tails help before MANY TIMES whats one more another way is Hinata saving him sorta, again would wouldnt say thanks for that Plot no jutsu
he asked kyuubi for help? lol what? if hinata never appeard then naruto would've never turned into the kyuubi because he could'nt even controll it at that time

i admit that naruto won against pain.. otherwise the serie would've have been ruined cuz naruto is the main character

but pain rapes sm naruto in a 1v1 without anyone helping him..
 

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he asked kyuubi for help? lol what? if hinata never appeard then naruto would've never turned into the kyuubi because he could'nt even controll it at that time

i admit that naruto won against pain.. otherwise the serie would've have been ruined cuz naruto is the main character

but pain rapes sm naruto in a 1v1 without anyone helping him..
he did ask for help during the Neji fight and Naruto would still have him in a 1vs1 because he knows his abilities
 
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