i dont think sasuke can really surpass the kyuubii chakra

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sasuke cannot suppress the Kyuubi. you all ppeople got it all wrong wrong!!!!!!


Well I would like to go back to where this all began.

1)
First of all naruto refused to use the kyuubi's power. And If you've been paying attention to the manga then you know the kyuubi's true power is sealed behind the cage. therefore the kyuubi can only pass on a small amount of chakra to naruto (And I say small amount because the 9tails chakra is unlimited).

Take a look at The kyuubi states that if naruto removes the seal he will give him all his powers. And then moving on to . Sasuke managed to suppress the small amount of leaked chakra which a lot of people seem to find very fascinating.

For example let's say there was no seal holding back the kyuubi and sasuke was there do you think his ordinary sharingan could suppress unlimited sinister chakra???

And just to clarify that the kyuubi isn't a total push over let's go to , where sasuke himself figures out that in order to gain control of the 9tails demon fox you would have to acquire MS and you end up blind.

2)
Sasuke's sharingan has gone up a level he now has MS. Can sasuke cast genjutsu on a single opponent yes (Let's say the 9tails fox on it's own), but can sasuke cast genjutsu on an established jinchuuriki. Well let's go to , where sasuke found out the hard way that genjutsu wont work on a host that can control their beast.

So If naruto got to that stage sasuke wouldn't be able to supress the kyuubi nor control it. So we can say that when he surpassed the kyuubi, The kyuubi was firstly being held back with the seal by minato so what he really supressed was no where near the real amount of the kyuubi total chakra and secondly, naruto wasn't cooperating with him or working as one so the kyuubi had no one to break or snap him out of the genjutsu.

If naruto and the kyuubi was one and there was no seal holding him back I'm pretty sure that it would have been a completely different story.

3)
This is the final part which pretty much shouts out that sasuke is destined to lose to naruto. Well if we go to . Itachi, the genius that he is. He knew for a fact that Madara would come along and brain wash sasuke with his biography. So Itachi took extra precaution by implanting some of his powers within naruto, it's still unknown what powers naruto has but if we take a guess we can assume it's sharingan related. And he hopes that naruto never has to use it indicating that someone could die when this power is used.


To summerise everything. Can sasuke beat naruto and kyuubi??? ...My answer is, currently yes because naruto hasn't opened the seal to the kyuubi's cage and formed a strong partnership. But however he still has Itachi's powers which we know nothing about. And for all we know Itachi's powers could take out sasuke on it's own, we just have to wait and see.

But If naruto has fully mastered the kyuubi the next time he meets sasuke then sasuke would be revisiting his nightmere with the Hachibi where he proved ineffective up untill Amaterasu. Naruto will have overwhelming power and Itachi's powers on top of it all so depending on what type of power Itachi gave him sasuke would have a difficult time. Well that's right after his dumbfounded that Itachi's kicking his ass from the dead

And there you have it
 
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Bro i agree on everything you said only that Naruto doesnt need the kjubi to defend against Sasuke only against his MS and Sasuke lost his curse mark and received MS but i think that Naruto doesnt need the kjubi to be stronger against Sasuke since he is much stronger that Itachi now and Sasuke wouldn defeat Itachi or Deidara without his curse mark
 

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i remember oro saying that kyubis chackra and narutos will become one..........that means (i think) that naruto will absorb kyubis power and use it as his normal chackra....he will be "narubi".........
in that esenario i vote for naruto kicking sasuke's butt
 

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i remember oro saying that kyubis chackra and narutos will become one..........that means (i think) that naruto will absorb kyubis power and use it as his normal chackra....he will be "narubi".........
in that esenario i vote for naruto kicking sasuke's butt
My point was that Naruto is stronger than anyone maybe not MAdara or Pain but he is definitly stronger than Sasuke now even without the use of kjubi
1.Sasuke would die in seconds VS Itachi if he didnt have that cursed seal
2.Itachi was allready sick then only a meter of time when he would go blind or die and he was his brother
Only chance that Sasuke becomes stronger is to be trained by Madara but i dont see that happening since Sasuke beleaves he is stronger than anyone now
 

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i agree with you on this, chect this out.
Naruto VS Sasuke

what outcome would be of this battle if it would happen at this time ?

Let me show you the latest stats from the latest databook of these two :

Naruto Sasuke

Ninjutsu​
4 5

Taijutsu​
3.5 3.5

Genjutsu​
2 4

Intellect​
3 3.5

Strength​
3.5 3.5

Speed​
3.5 4.5

Stamina​
5 3.5

Seal​
1 4

25.5 31.5

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But these are no longer recent as we all know that Naruto n Sasuke got a lot better in these past chapters right.
So what do you think about theyre progress in numbers, I mean what stats would you give Naruto and Sasuke right now.

This is how I see theyre progress :

Naruto
- mainly Sage training developed Narutos ninjutusu n taijutsu lvl but my guess is that that big scroll on his back has to do something with improved seals
- also Narutos basic atributes increased due to so much trainig as well as intelect lv due to improving his concentration waaaay up cuz of Sage mode

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Sasuke
- mangekyo sharingan curtently had to improve his genjutsu
- also stamina and taijutsu as he managed to sustain very difficult battle against Hachibi being brought back from dying two times only to cast finishing move HAS to do something with your stamina

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So whos THE STRONGER ninja out of them now ???

My answer is Naruto as he has the ultimate trump cards :
- Sage mode
- Itachis mysterious gifth connected with Sasuke somehow
 

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Agree on the last thing Naruto is way stronger than Itachi and if Sasuke would fought Itachi now i think he would lose and why im the only one reading this it looks you spent some time making this tread
 

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Naruto will decimate Sasuke at this moment in time. If Naruto can take out the 6 paths, which are stronger than Sasuke, then it's clear that Naruto is more stronger then sasuke.
 

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Does it get on your nerves when you make a new tread and hoping to have a conversation and then noone replys only 10 posts and 11 wiews and that was only from me
 

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lol who care!!

sage mode naruto tears up sasuke like paper. Put sasuke in narutos place against pain, sasuke wouldnt even be able to take out 1 of the pains
 

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lol who care!!

sage mode naruto tears up sasuke like paper. Put sasuke in narutos place against pain, sasuke wouldnt even be able to take out 1 of the pains
Sorry, I am not a Sasuke Fan, But i can say Sasuke is able to do more than that. Among 6 bodies of Pein, only Deva is the strongest, the others are not that strong. Maybe Chakra Eater, but Sasuke can take at least three of them. Just my opinion. Sasuke is very fast guys, you should consider that.

Pein is strong, because all bodies act together in team simultaneously as one body. If you start to separate them, they start to fall down[Like we have seen with naruto]. Kakashi was not able to defeat one of the bodies because it was the strongest one among them.
 

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Take a close look at the Eye of the Kyuubi... It is the Sharringan...

This means that when an Uchiha uses the sharringan on the Kyuubi... the Kyuubi is under their complete control....

Therefore... I think that the seal you are referring to does 2 things...
1. It prevents the Kyuubi from overpowering Naruto...
&
2. It prevents Uchiha from gaining complete control over the Kyuubi. (Because after all... no matter how hard you try and beckon a jailed dog to come to you... it can't get through the bars.)

The question you should be asking is... why the ability to only control the 9 Tails?
 

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sasuke cannot suppress the Kyuubi. you all ppeople got it all wrong wrong!!!!!!


Well I would like to go back to where this all began.

1)
First of all naruto refused to use the kyuubi's power. And If you've been paying attention to the manga then you know the kyuubi's true power is sealed behind the cage. therefore the kyuubi can only pass on a small amount of chakra to naruto (And I say small amount because the 9tails chakra is unlimited).

Take a look at The kyuubi states that if naruto removes the seal he will give him all his powers. And then moving on to . Sasuke managed to suppress the small amount of leaked chakra which a lot of people seem to find very fascinating.

For example let's say there was no seal holding back the kyuubi and sasuke was there do you think his ordinary sharingan could suppress unlimited sinister chakra???

And just to clarify that the kyuubi isn't a total push over let's go to , where sasuke himself figures out that in order to gain control of the 9tails demon fox you would have to acquire MS and you end up blind.

2)
Sasuke's sharingan has gone up a level he now has MS. Can sasuke cast genjutsu on a single opponent yes (Let's say the 9tails fox on it's own), but can sasuke cast genjutsu on an established jinchuuriki. Well let's go to , where sasuke found out the hard way that genjutsu wont work on a host that can control their beast.

So If naruto got to that stage sasuke wouldn't be able to supress the kyuubi nor control it. So we can say that when he surpassed the kyuubi, The kyuubi was firstly being held back with the seal by minato so what he really supressed was no where near the real amount of the kyuubi total chakra and secondly, naruto wasn't cooperating with him or working as one so the kyuubi had no one to break or snap him out of the genjutsu.

If naruto and the kyuubi was one and there was no seal holding him back I'm pretty sure that it would have been a completely different story.

3)
This is the final part which pretty much shouts out that sasuke is destined to lose to naruto. Well if we go to . Itachi, the genius that he is. He knew for a fact that Madara would come along and brain wash sasuke with his biography. So Itachi took extra precaution by implanting some of his powers within naruto, it's still unknown what powers naruto has but if we take a guess we can assume it's sharingan related. And he hopes that naruto never has to use it indicating that someone could die when this power is used.


To summerise everything. Can sasuke beat naruto and kyuubi??? ...My answer is, currently yes because naruto hasn't opened the seal to the kyuubi's cage and formed a strong partnership. But however he still has Itachi's powers which we know nothing about. And for all we know Itachi's powers could take out sasuke on it's own, we just have to wait and see.

But If naruto has fully mastered the kyuubi the next time he meets sasuke then sasuke would be revisiting his nightmere with the Hachibi where he proved ineffective up untill Amaterasu. Naruto will have overwhelming power and Itachi's powers on top of it all so depending on what type of power Itachi gave him sasuke would have a difficult time. Well that's right after his dumbfounded that Itachi's kicking his ass from the dead

And there you have it
hey dude! dont get me wrong but kuubi is the strongest sourse of power in the univerce and of course noone can surpass it.that's why you need not have to write such monsticiously large topic to proove that :)
 

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Sasuke can control the kyubii, it does not matter if he's weaker.

If he finds a way to release it as he fights Naruto, he will control it as a pet.

Of course, if he doesn't find a way, Naruto will win.
 

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Yea man i totally agree with you. Like some other ppl said....****** lost his curse mark weakening him A LOT.

Another solution for Naruto to surpass everyone is to fuse sage mode with kyuubi mode making him a demon sage making him even more powerful. Why would kishi give Naruto 2 modes when he is just gonna use sage mode.

I think Naruto is very stupid for not using the kyuubi's power just cus he is getting over powered. It is not the fox's fault....Naruto should instead focus on controlling it instead of blaming the fox for hurting his friends.
 

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Agree on the last thing Naruto is way stronger than Itachi and if Sasuke would fought Itachi now i think he would lose and why im the only one reading this it looks you spent some time making this tread
say wha?naruto stronger than itachi?did itachi go all out?i dont think so.itachi could own naruto within a flash just by using susanoo with 1 slash by its sword its over and amterasu up to now no1 has proven that he can block it except madara(which i think used a spase/time justsu to get rid of it)and yet again tsukyomi i doubt he'll escape it easily
Naruto will decimate Sasuke at this moment in time. If Naruto can take out the 6 paths, which are stronger than Sasuke, then it's clear that Naruto is more stronger then sasuke.
um just because A>b and b>c that dosent mean that a>c get it?:D
 
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