[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

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of 1st- sharingan cannot see the difference between a clone and read deal....reasons :

a)ino he somewhat said he could......but he's also very arrogant

b)note sasukes impression when he hits naruto and his string of clones with 'dragon fire jutsu?' i believe....(right after naruto slams him into mountain) at VotE fight.....he is surprised/scared that the real naruto was the one holding onto his legs......its as tho sasuke didnt really mean to hit naruto himself with that jutsu.......naruto is surprised as well....sasuke then says "IT'S TOO LATE NA-RU-TO" and fight gets serious from there

c) he states that he's sees chakra as a different color during fight with dedeira ( when clay man uses his "millions of miniscule, invisible c4 bombs jutsu") sasuke describes it and/or they show a panel of it looking like a cloud or fog

d) the hardest evidence is saved for last........itachi vs team kakashi!!!! has everyone forgot?!?!? itachi tries to perform tsukuyomi(or regular genjutsu that is supposed to look like tsukuyomi....as his mangekyo wasn't activated) on kakashi's clone!!!!!! he doesn't realise it's a clone till its too late!!!!!!! and he's lookin right at him for like 5 min!!!!

with all that said kakashi himself states that "byakugan is the strongest for sheer power of insight" exactly what we are talking about........byakugan couldn't tell cuz naruto distibuted chakra evenly amongst the clones.........with that said.....sharingan has NO chance at seeing through clones

prove me wrong if u can.....but this one is pretty solid folks:p

quik edit~ also with all those facts i believe sharingan can see chakra(as a blurr kinda) and can somewhat gauge the amount of chakra........
Im going to be dealing with a few things in this post, but I'll mainly be countering Ssanimo's argument. You asked for it, so here I go.

A) Yes, Sauske is arrogant. I agree. This proves and disproves nothing. This could be used for either side of the argument.

B) I could just as easily say that Sauske was probarbly more surprised the Naruto hadn't been blown away by such an impressive jutsu. I really don't think Sauske was expecting Naruto to pop out and cling to his foot.

Also, not that it matters a whole lot for the argument, but was Sauske using Sharingan at that point?

C) You're using this fight with complete disregard to what actually happened. I used this fight as evidence FOR sharingan seeing through Clones. The problem here is that Itachi wasn't actually fighting Kakashi, it was a suped-up-dopplegangar technique. When Kakashi defeated Itachi during this fight I was revealed it was somebody else entirely. Remember, Kakashi as SURPRISED that Itachi didn't see through his clone technique. Reread the fight.

D) You are misinterpriting the Byakugans powers. It can see the flow of chakra in a body, this is needed for the Heavenly Strike taijutst the Hyuuga clan are masters of. The sharingan can see CHAKRA itself, as evidenced by Sauske seeing Deidaras C4 landmines. Sure, Neji might have been able to see them as well, but not because of the chakra.

As for Itachi's disease: I do not think the disease is a product of the Magekenyo Sharingan. We would see Kakashi coming down with it, maybe even Madara.

I also don't think Sauske has the disease, I think he is simply going blind. If he does have the disease its because itachi GAVE it to him, along with Amaterasu. Its obviously not contageous otherwise Kisame would for sure have it.

Everyone "thinks" the statue was summond for the Garaaa seal because it was. Pein WAS ther, and he summoned the statue, he was just in "ethereal" form. There is no evidence suggesting that Pein summoned the statue in, ethereal form or not, for the sealing of Killr Bee.

I think yourewrong about Madara wanting Sauskes eyes for his own. Something doesn't seem right.

As for Madara only having one eye, I have a theory. Madaras brother willingly gave Madara one of his eyes. After Madara tasted the power of the Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan he stole his brothers other eye. The eye that he stole degenerated into blindness _nd that's why we only see him using the one. This could explain why Kakashi is not, to our knowledge, going blind: Because Obito gifted it to him.

I still say my theory is correct: Akatsuki is going to divide the Bijuu amongst its members. Saske wasn't going to steal it, he thinks he got in because he captured the eight tails (he thinks he did at least) and that as a reward they will infuse him with the eight tails when ALL the Bijuu are sealed.

He says it doesn't matter because he can destroy Konoha even without the aid of a Bijuu, or so he thinks.

I think that covers it.
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on the itachi's eyes thing..........i believe madara wishes for sasuke to take itachi's eyes and implant them.......only for him to be able to take them from him to further his own.....

if madara does have EMS then he's at his limit... the only way he could further his sharingan now,is to implant another EMS......thus the reason behind everythin involving himself,itachi,and sasuke

itachi wasn't going to take sasukes eyes.......and madara didn't really wanna have to mess with itachi (doesn't matter if he has EMS and itachi didn't.....remember sharingan is just a tool for the shinobi and itachi could uses MS to its fullest potential) he really wouldn't if he had EMS as well

this is why madara sent hawk to retrieve the 8-tails...........he knew he would get pwned..........akatsuki did say 8-tails would prob be the hardest(kisame?? i think:confused:) neways.....he knew sasuke would make it back......but he was banking on the fact that sasuke would have to rely on MS, would realise the eyesight probs....maybe even want more power after facing such a powerful shinobi....... he did it so sasuke would want itachi's eyes

EMS+MS= -1 :confused::mad:

EMS+EMS= +10 :eek::eek::D:D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for those that dont understand my blabbering

P.S. many thanks to kushina for appreciating my script........it takes time to come up with and that was my only response:(:(:(

nice observation man...... nways wats ems????
 

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Im going to be dealing with a few things in this post, but I'll mainly be countering Ssanimo's argument. You asked for it, so here I go.

A) Yes, Sauske is arrogant. I agree. This proves and disproves nothing. This could be used for either side of the argument.

B) I could just as easily say that Sauske was probarbly more surprised the Naruto hadn't been blown away by such an impressive jutsu. I really don't think Sauske was expecting Naruto to pop out and cling to his foot.

Also, not that it matters a whole lot for the argument, but was Sauske using Sharingan at that point?

C) You're using this fight with complete disregard to what actually happened. I used this fight as evidence FOR sharingan seeing through Clones. The problem here is that Itachi wasn't actually fighting Kakashi, it was a suped-up-dopplegangar technique. When Kakashi defeated Itachi during this fight I was revealed it was somebody else entirely. Remember, Kakashi as SURPRISED that Itachi didn't see through his clone technique. Reread the fight.

D) You are misinterpriting the Byakugans powers. It can see the flow of chakra in a body, this is needed for the Heavenly Strike taijutst the Hyuuga clan are masters of. The sharingan can see CHAKRA itself, as evidenced by Sauske seeing Deidaras C4 landmines. Sure, Neji might have been able to see them as well, but not because of the chakra.

As for Itachi's disease: I do not think the disease is a product of the Magekenyo Sharingan. We would see Kakashi coming down with it, maybe even Madara.

I also don't think Sauske has the disease, I think he is simply going blind. If he does have the disease its because itachi GAVE it to him, along with Amaterasu. Its obviously not contageous otherwise Kisame would for sure have it.

Everyone "thinks" the statue was summond for the Garaaa seal because it was. Pein WAS ther, and he summoned the statue, he was just in "ethereal" form. There is no evidence suggesting that Pein summoned the statue in, ethereal form or not, for the sealing of Killr Bee.

I think yourewrong about Madara wanting Sauskes eyes for his own. Something doesn't seem right.

As for Madara only having one eye, I have a theory. Madaras brother willingly gave Madara one of his eyes. After Madara tasted the power of the Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan he stole his brothers other eye. The eye that he stole degenerated into blindness _nd that's why we only see him using the one. This could explain why Kakashi is not, to our knowledge, going blind: Because Obito gifted it to him.

I still say my theory is correct: Akatsuki is going to divide the Bijuu amongst its members. Saske wasn't going to steal it, he thinks he got in because he captured the eight tails (he thinks he did at least) and that as a reward they will infuse him with the eight tails when ALL the Bijuu are sealed.

He says it doesn't matter because he can destroy Konoha even without the aid of a Bijuu, or so he thinks.

I think that covers it.
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well your still on so im gonna try and get my 2 cents in byakugan doesn't just see chakra flow.. neji??? i think "i have not seen someone with this much chakra since naruto" reffering to kisame??? im pretty sure of that

i dunno i guess to each his own.....it still seems that it has been proven more times then not that they can't be told apart.......i mean why would the 3rd say it was the most affective jutsu if used properly?????

bottom line naruto is the master of shadow clones and u can't tell his apart :p:p now hurry and get off b4 you can respond!!:p:p

nice observation man...... nways wats ems????
eternal mangekyo sharingan
 
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1. I believe they spoke about stealing the biju.

3. I disagree with that. I recal Hachibi complaining to Killerbee for having called him into battle in a situation that was under his control (He said that, why did you call me if you had the upper hand here), and Killerbee told him that he got carried away, and besides, it was the perfect scenario to put up a fake situation so that he could escape from his brother the Raikage.

About the summond statue, it sure wasn?t Madara. Don?t you remember the chapter when Gaara was kidnapped by Deidara and Sasori? Pain was the one to summon the statue to the cave in which Sasori fought Chiyo and Sakura afterwards..., and he wasn?t there. So, I bet the same happended in this case you?re talking about.
Exactly, for christ sake sasuke got his chest blown off. If he was alone he would of bled out like an injured walrus.
 

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well your still on so im gonna try and get my 2 cents in byakugan doesn't just see chakra flow.. neji??? i think "i have not seen someone with this much chakra since naruto" reffering to kisame??? im pretty sure of that

i dunno i guess to each his own.....it still seems that it has been proven more times then not that they can't be told apart.......i mean why would the 3rd say it was the most affective jutsu if used properly?????

bottom line naruto is the master of shadow clones and u can't tell his apart :p:p now hurry and get off b4 you can respond!!:p:p


eternal mangekyo sharingan
Again, Neji is looking at a prson, seeing the flow of Chakra through Kisames body. It was already stated that the more chakra a person has, the more chakra points he has. Also stated was that as a person masters the flow of their chakra, the more chakra points they have. (Youre ging to have to go WAAAY back to find those references. I think Kakashi said the latterduring the tree climbing thing.)

Also, how did we see Jiraya writing on Pas back? Did Kishi just let us see the chakra so we could understand how he was doing it, was he using a very hot flame (its blueish white in color in the anime.); Or was it lightning element?
 

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cant remember chapter on episode but god relm does a summoning jutsu.........yes summoning jutsu and the statue rises up from the ground (this is also the same time we are told the name of the tech. "phantom 9 dragons sumthin or other) cant remember anyways thats why
Yes I remember that chapter from anime clearly , but I dont remember episode number :D
 

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Again, Neji is looking at a prson, seeing the flow of Chakra through Kisames body. It was already stated that the more chakra a person has, the more chakra points he has. Also stated was that as a person masters the flow of their chakra, the more chakra points they have. (Youre ging to have to go WAAAY back to find those references. I think Kakashi said the latterduring the tree climbing thing.)

Also, how did we see Jiraya writing on Pas back? Did Kishi just let us see the chakra so we could understand how he was doing it, was he using a very hot flame (its blueish white in color in the anime.); Or was it lightning element?
It appeared to be lightning element because his fingers were emersing sparks as he wrote
 

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Theres info about statue .

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Pain summoned statue in Shippuden Episode 10 / Time in episode : from 10.09
 
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Prety sure Kishi said he wants to show Kakashi Gaiden in the Shippuden Series. Its possible the campfire scene in the maga will turn into Kakashi Gaiden in the anime.

6-) Some things that have been left behind:
a-) The power that Itachi left to Naruto
Most likely he gave Naruto something to counter Amaterasu or te Sharingan itself.
what if itachi gave naruto the sword of totsuka?!? instead of it being lost forever, he passed it on to naruto so it could be used to protect konoha. i have been wanting to see naruto carry a weapon, this wouldn't necessarily be carried but rather summoned in dire circumstances. i think it would be awesome, naruto's ultimate weapon... but mostly to keep it out of evil hands.

any thoughts? possibility?
 

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...I don't think I can start making any predictions about what Pain's going to tell Naruto but it'll probably be things like "too many people have died here, their pain is what helped me grow up" ( my favorite pain line...hehe )...but I'm sure it's going to be something about how peace and pain are linked blah blah blah...What happened to Yahiko might be revealed if we're lucky( though don't count on this, our luck has been pretty bad lately )....
Well...has anyone noticed that Katsuyu seems to be on standby? He's still near every one of the villagers he saved, looks like he still has some of the Princess' chakra to keep everyone safe just in case Pain does that shinra tensei again....I'm having a wild imagination that the small Katsuyu with Naruto might move to Pa Toad and heal him while Pain is having his talk with Naruto...Then again, Pain is still not one to fool so easily...
 

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wowwowo what if the gift itachi gave to naruto was exactly the thing naruto needed the most, defence, deffensive jutsus.

So itachi gave naruto susano'o, the ultimate defensive shield and an strong offensive weapon
 
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I wonder if Naruto could use the Nine tailed foxes chakra to replenish his own rather than turning into the fox but carry an unlimited source of chakra to regain his sage mode at any time he chooses
sage mode is unrelated to the demon fox's chakra. sage mode uses the surrounding natural energy. if he use the fox chakra reserves when he wished, it would create a new "mode" using demon chakra.

i dont think the fox would ever sit there and allow naruto to access his chakra at any time. i think if :naruto: does manage to control the fox, he will refine the cloak (hopefully infusing it with wind nature so its sharp instead of bubbling, opening up the possibility for different techniques involving the cloak). i think only the fox's tails will appear allowing naruto to keep control and uses hand seals (instead of crawling) his eyes will probably change too. if this is possibility i want to see naruto go through some transformation (like :sasuke: using the seal) but still be able to think and form seals.
 

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wowwowo what if the gift itachi gave to naruto was exactly the thing naruto needed the most, defence, deffensive jutsus.

So itachi gave naruto susano'o, the ultimate defensive shield and an strong offensive weapon
:D Would be just
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But to much I think :)


We should see what power/abillity it is then Sasuke attacks Konoha or something important to Naruto

...then Pain would vanish like a wisp of smoke in the wind...

Yeah , rofl... Pain would get killed in a seconds
 

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cant remember chapter on episode but god relm does a summoning jutsu.........yes summoning jutsu and the statue rises up from the ground (this is also the same time we are told the name of the tech. "phantom 9 dragons sumthin or other) cant remember anyways thats why
Thanks for the tip. I wonder if this was seen in the manga, I know it was in Shippuden.
 
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Pain's/Nagato's over confidence is exactly what is going to make him lose in Konoha...he just says "I see no reason not to talk" like there were no Konoha ninjas all around him...and he seems to have assumed victory only after having seen Naruto's NORMAL SHINOBI side, it looks like he's completely forgotten about Naruto's JINCHUURIKI side...Of course, he says "Kyuubi" but I'm sure he still underestimates how overwhelming ( and terribly evil ) that side is...
 

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Pain's/Nagato's over confidence is exactly what is going to make him lose in Konoha...he just says "I see no reason not to talk" like there were no Konoha ninjas all around him...and he seems to have assumed victory only after having seen Naruto's NORMAL SHINOBI side, it looks like he's completely forgotten about Naruto's JINCHUURIKI side...Of course, he says "Kyuubi" but I'm sure he still underestimates how overwhelming ( and terribly evil ) that side is...
Pain is too confident , It may be last talk for Deva Path :D
 

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Pain's/Nagato's over confidence is exactly what is going to make him lose in Konoha...he just says "I see no reason not to talk" like there were no Konoha ninjas all around him...and he seems to have assumed victory only after having seen Naruto's NORMAL SHINOBI side, it looks like he's completely forgotten about Naruto's JINCHUURIKI side...Of course, he says "Kyuubi" but I'm sure he still underestimates how overwhelming ( and terribly evil ) that side is...
I agree that Pain does prove to be cocky however as to Naruto jinchurriki status I highly doubt he will resort to the use of the Kyuubi especially after his use of it hurting Sakura and his promise to never rely on its power again. I believe this battle is far from over especially with Pains real body out there watching Naruto fight we still can't predict how strong the controller is.
 

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Stay tuned folks. In a few answers all things will be made clear.
On the agenda for my next posT: did Itachi giv Naruto Sasuno?
Is Pein being over confidet?
And more!

Expect to see this next subject in its own post:
The Sauske VS Killer Bee Hibachi, an end to the debate.

And, for the first time evry, a bonified Arisonius theory!
Itachi and Tobi, Behind the Masks!
( This one will be on the theories thread and will reqiure a little research so I keep my timeline straight. Expect it after the above mentioned artcles. )
 
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