STFU ppl ... Madara >>>> Hashirama . It's simple just read the thread

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Who won at the valley of the end? What I know is Hashi 1-0 and Madara 0-1.

Now if they fight again and Madara beats him then maybe you have an argument.

Hashi is still better than Madara just like Sasuke is better than Naruto FACT, if you think I'm a dumbass go and watch both final valley fights and see who won (I know we haven't seen Hashi's fight but we know who was the winner)

actually they fought alot more than that and hashirama always won way back before the leaf was founded back in war times when the wek villages would call the uchiha and senju to defend them
 

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Obito> Madara.

Obito could just warp Madara to the next dimension and there is nothing he can do about it.
 

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I believe current Madara is stronger than Hashirama, but the older one was no pushover as well. I don't believe Hasirama annihilated him. It must have been a close fight with a leaning towards Hashirama.
 

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i agree that EDO MADARA is better then the 1st but no edo then hashirama also how can you compare him to a character you have not seen fight and didn't madara say that this is just a fraction of what the sage could do
 

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actually they fought alot more than that and hashirama always won way back before the leaf was founded back in war times when the wek villages would call the uchiha and senju to defend them

Better then!
 

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I think your right,.. Madara is greater than Hashirama.
and technically the sage had unlimited chakra because of juubi and madara has unlimited chakra, so they could be compared in a way.
 

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Obito> Madara.

Obito could just warp Madara to the next dimension and there is nothing he can do about it.

Obitofanboy... Soo cute!

Yes I believe Madara is by far stronger then Harashima atm.
He is probably going to be stoped by a sealing tech because his too OP.
 

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hashirama>the full power of madara(perfect susano).

"only hashirama could ever stop me"

madara fanboys know full well that, that statement doesnt disprove madara implying that hashirama could beat him as an edo especially when hashirama already beat the best of madara.
 

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Basically hashi is the only one who can fight him alone and either come to a win or stalemate
 

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i agree people use the wrong translation... here's the proof

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"only hashirama could stop me" not "only hashirama can stop me"

He said could ever, he didn't mean now.

I think you two need a little education on the use of the word "could".
The word "could" has about 3 uses
1. Its the past tense of can. For example: When I was living in Boston, I could walk to work.
2. It can be used to make a polite request e.g Could you lend me some money?
Now the 3rd use is the one we're really interested in so pay attention. "Could" is also used to talk about theoretical possibility
e. It could rain today. Take an umbrella.
Now I believe the 3rd use applies to Madara's statement. Why? His next statement gives us a clue. He says "too bad he's no longer here with us. He then goes on to talk about how the map will be redrawn had Hashirama been there. He's clearly implying that Hashirama could stop him even now.
 

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i believe madara is way stronger than hashirama, but i still doubt he can fight the s6op with equal footing sorry. tell madara gets a big powerup like creation all things then ill switch and opnely admitt hes stronger
 

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Man ur right holy shit u r thinking just like me
 

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Who won at the valley of the end? What I know is Hashi 1-0 and Madara 0-1.

Now if they fight again and Madara beats him then maybe you have an argument.

Hashi is still better than Madara just like Sasuke is better than Naruto FACT, if you think I'm a dumbass go and watch both final valley fights and see who won (I know we haven't seen Hashi's fight but we know who was the winner)

What FAIL logic, by this Bullshit logic, Rock Lee is stronger than Sasuke since Lee beat Sasuke and Sasuke never beat him in a fight.
 

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EDO MADARA:"ONLY HASHIRAMA CAN BEAT ME" nuff said
 

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Rikudo Sennin > Edo Madara > Hashirama > EMS Madara.

As simply as that. Rikudo Sennin wasn't only the creator of the moon, he was the creator of everything, he is the creator of Ninjutsu itself, he beat the Juubi and created the Biju. Madara wouldn't stand a chance against the sage of the six paths, Banbutsu Sozo would create some super powerful sealing technique.
 
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