[Predictions] Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

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1.) The sage Naruto clone is not coming back until the Ma/Pa toad finish their genjutsu since they're the only ones who can do it, unless Bunta (too big I think can). This requires them to charge up their nature chakra. Clearly Naruto is going to have to rely on an external party for help. External party also refers to the Kyuubi inside of him.

I'm curious if the Pein will fall for the same genjutsu (it seems the same) as he did under Jiraiya. That's my main concern. After that they can alway reverse summon the clone, but Naruto must disperse it to get the chakra back.

2.) Fat Pein can absorb chakra of almost every type I think. If he totally drains Naruto, he's dead. He'll end up sucking in the Kyuubi chakra that mixes with Naruto's normal chakra and be burned by it. Since it is constantly mixing, I don't know if he needs to drain Naruto completely.

I've seen the question of how the fat Pein can suck in all this chakra. It's really like a first order differential equation. What matters is the balance between the rate in and the rate out. So long as the system is stable or quasi-stable, he should be OK. We don't know how much chakra fat Pein is using up draining Naruto's chakra. We also don't know if he has a dumping mechanism where he could actively or passively release chakra he absorbs. So long as he can do this, and Kishi actually cares about such details, in theory he should be OK.

3.) If somehow Danzou's ROOT ANBU are able to save Naruto, assuming he needs it, it makes no difference to me that he should be considered a superior Hokage than Tsunade. She's risked her life, and who knows yet how bad her condition is, to save countless Shinobi from death. If Danzou was the Hokage, he wouldn't have called Naruto back, and nothing would've been different except Konoha would've been in ruins, they would know less about Pein (Katsuyu knows everything the village knows), and I can't estimate how many would be dead.

4.) Team Gai is interesting. In theory they are a good matchup for God realm. Tenten, pretty useless could send countless weapons at Pein. He repulses them. Neji watches all this with his Byakuugan. He's able to co-ordinate Lee and Gai to move in during the 5s interval. I think this could probably be done without Tenten, just using Lee and Gai. The only one else with sufficient speed is Naruto, who's not capable right now. Again, in theory.

5.) I don't think now is the time for the Kyuubi to be an ass to Naruto. He respects power, and I guess somehow see's or sense's everything that happens. He knows how strong Naruto is, and he respects that. Naruto is not a little kid or immature (after time-skip), so he's at the turning point in controlling the Kyuubi even if it's not today. If Naruto gets captured, the Kyuubi will die too. The Kyuubi tends to protect Naruto in order to protect himself. I'm torn, but I don't think it will come down to it. I think the genjutsu will work long enough to get Naruto free, but not enough to trap Pein and the bodies be killed like Jiraiya did.
 
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So upon re-reading 433 and 434, I realized that Naruto isn't captured at all. When he made that last rasenshuriken, he made 2 clones. One transformed into the rasenshuriken, then attacked Fat Pain. Another jumped sky high and killed Hell Pain. We have no idea where the real Naruto is. He's probably underground in hiding or something. Remember, Naruto could concentrate to give a clone more stamina if he wants to (vs Neji, Kidomaru etc), so he's simply letting Pain believe that the Naruto he is holding is the real one.
From here, he might disperse the clone technique and attack Pain, or allow Pain to leave with the clone and Pain would fail in the same way Sasuke failed with KillerBee. It would be the exact same situation! Well, that's my new prediction anyway.
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So upon re-reading 433 and 434, I realized that Naruto isn't captured at all. When he made that last rasenshuriken, he made 2 clones. One transformed into the rasenshuriken, then attacked Fat Pain. Another jumped sky high and killed Hell Pain. We have no idea where the real Naruto is. He's probably underground in hiding or something. Remember, Naruto could concentrate to give a clone more stamina if he wants to (vs Neji, Kidomaru etc), so he's simply letting Pain believe that the Naruto he is holding is the real one.
From here, he might disperse the clone technique and attack Pain, or allow Pain to leave with the clone and Pain would fail in the same way Sasuke failed with KillerBee. It would be the exact same situation! Well, that's my new prediction anyway.
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There was Naruto and 2 KB near Naruto

They used smoke-bombs

Naruto turned into Rasenshuriken and cought Fat Pain . While 1 of KB used double resengan and killed Hell Realm

Naruto and 1 KB attacked God Realm , Pain used gravity to blast Naruto and 1 KB away.

1 of KB "poofed" becouse he got damage while landing from blast
Naruto got damage but did not "poofed" , since hes real .


Where did second kage-bushin gone ? Am I missing something ?
 
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Ahhh, so much fail, so little time to explain why its all wrong.

The Naruto Fat Pein is holding is not a clone. It woul have poofed when Yahiko Pein summoned it or when Fat Pein grabbed it. If that didn't do the trick draining its chakra would.
I think you forget the sturdiness Sage Mode adds not only to :naruto: but to :naruto: clones as well. They are no longer one hit wonders from what ive seen. Also we dont know for sure yet if he is draining All chakra or just Sage chakra.
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There was Naruto and 2 KB near Naruto

They used smoke-bombs

Naruto turned into Rasenshuriken and cought Fat Pain . While 1 of KB used double resengan and killed Hell Realm

Naruto and 1 KB attacked God Realm , Pain used gravity to blast Naruto and 1 KB away.

1 of KB "poofed" becouse he got damage while landing from blast
Naruto got damage but did not "poofed" , since hes real .


Where did second kage-bushin gone ? Am I missing something ?
No, I think Naruto let the other Kagebunshin "poof" on purpose to let Pain think that the other was real. Think about it, that is Naruto's style. (He did the same think vs Kidomaru) I wouldn't be surprised if he came out of hiding next chapter.
 

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I think you forget the sturdiness Sage Mode adds not only to :naruto: but to :naruto: clones as well. They are no longer one hit wonders from what ive seen. Also we dont know for sure yet if he is draining All chakra or just Sage chakra.
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I have yet to see any clone of Naruto's be classified as 'sturdy'. The theory that sage-mode clones don't always go 'poof' when damaged has been disproven by Naruto himself.

Naruto is going to get captured. I would really like for everyone to get over it now. Seriously, I won't be able to visit these forums if all I see is "ZOMG thy gt the Narutoxxxorz! ZOMG NOES! Kishi, yu rewened ur mangorz!" Especially when I've been pointing out al long thT he's going to get captured and why he should.

Fat Pein is not going to 'pop.' That would be drawing too heavily from another artists work, a work which, Kishi knows, his audience knows well. Kishi understands the need fr originality.

As for Fat Pein transferring his chakra to the other Peins, as ma have been show, like someone said earlier, the answer is no. So far the only Pein that has been shown to be of any use to Pein in a "medic" type capacity was Hungry Ghost Realm. If Obiese Pein transferred chakra to other Peins it wouldn't make sense to put him in front. You would have him capture a clone and leech its chakra to strengthen the other bodies.

Now for a joke: Peins. Now swap the I and the N. Hmmm...

Now for a personal note to J-Man: The reason Im giving you an honorary title of Erro Sennin is that, so far as the commujnity itself is concerned, it don't mean much. I just enjoy your posts, even when I disagree with them. I would love to give other such posters such as Leafeater, The Destined Child, Roclee, and Itachi Uchiha The Legend the such nicknames, because I feel that we are all Sennin (Sages) of Naruto. Its jus hard to do without my beloved computer. -.-;

Anywho, I salute you Sir and your service to this country. If Barack Huissen Obama has his way you'll be back on American soil before your boots get dirty. Probarbly a good thing too, because with the closing of Guantonimo Bay were going to need our service men and women here on American soil to fight all the terrorists we just freed.

Anyway, I won't drag this board into polotics, as I'm afraid it would be dastardly dreadful and kill the community, but God Bless and Be Safe when you do get deployed J-Man. My Step-Father is in Iraq.

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No, I think Naruto let the other Kagebunshin "poof" on purpose to let Pain think that the other was real. Think about it, that is Naruto's style. (He did the same think vs Kidomaru) I wouldn't be surprised if he came out of hiding next chapter.
Who is Kidomaru?

:hinata::sakura::ino::tsunande:
:eek:rihime::rukia: Now that's a dream.

I demand faces for orihime tsuande and rukia! =P Otherwise I go :ulquiorria: on you!
 
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she's taking care of granny tsunade who is about to die of chakra exhaustion, within the next chapters they will be performing boob transplant...hehehe
That's not going to happen because Tsunade has old boobs that will sag to the floor without the support of her chakra. I don't think fifty year old boobs look that great. Maybe they should give them to Sasuke since he always get things from other people for free. :D

Rereading the chapters we see Naruto uses his old tricks. I think the real Naruto has to be inside the hole created by the smoke bomb because that was the last time we notice one less Naruto.

PS: silicone implants =>:chouji::chouji:
 
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No, I think Naruto let the other Kagebunshin "poof" on purpose to let Pain think that the other was real. Think about it, that is Naruto's style. (He did the same think vs Kidomaru) I wouldn't be surprised if he came out of hiding next chapter.
I would like that happen =))

"poof" and Pain is shocked again XD
 
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uhh to all the people wondering how pain may get away with naruto, (which would be absolutely silly if it were to really happen) remember:

god realm can.. uhh, FLY.
and if his power really is akin to a magnet, then he should be able to concentrate its effects to produce sonic boom-esque take-off velocities that would be difficult to parallel.
also, to address naruto being caught being a bad idea... guys, naruto is the main character: when they wanted someone close to our hearts to get captured, kishi chose gaaaara. that was enough to make us and naruto hate akatsuki. naruto cannot be caught because he wouldnt allow it! he be damned if he went and saved gaara and then just got caught himself. (what kind of hero would that be?) he will find a way to get out of his grasp, but expecting a new flashy (no pun intended) jutsu is too much; expecting clever manipulation of exiting jutsu is more in tune with naruto's character.

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man that book was good but i have a feeling that the 9 tailed fox will take over his body without warning and kill pein..and i wished they let hinata help naruto cause she really cares about him and i think she 2 has learned more jutsus :kiba::hinata:
 

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hi everyone am new here ,but i think i have an idea of what is gonna happen,did you guys notice anything strange about naruto when he was grabbed buy that pein guy.he first thing he said to himself was.....my sage chakra is leaving me,i get he is absorbing my sage chakra..thats when he closed his eyes.i think what naruto is thinking is what he learned while training to become a sage if you don't remain perfectly still while drawing on it you will become a toad statue.so thats what he is doing now he is gonna drawing on the energy and it is gonna get transfer into the pein guy turning him into a toad statue.thats my prediction am almost certain thats what his plan is.
 

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I don't think fifty year old boobs look that great. Maybe they should give them to Sasuke since he always get things from other people for free. :D
Lol! Lol! It's so easy to make a joke about Sasuke, people always do and it always gets to me, haha.

uhh to all the people wondering how pain may get away with naruto, (which would be absolutely silly if it were to really happen) remember:

god realm can.. uhh, FLY.
and if his power really is akin to a magnet, then he should be able to concentrate its effects to produce sonic boom-esque take-off velocities that would be difficult to parallel.
also, to address naruto being caught being a bad idea... guys, naruto is the main character: when they wanted someone close to our hearts to get captured, kishi chose gaaaara. that was enough to make us and naruto hate akatsuki. naruto cannot be caught because he wouldnt allow it! he be damned if he went and saved gaara and then just got caught himself. (what kind of hero would that be?) he will find a way to get out of his grasp, but expecting a new flashy (no pun intended) jutsu is too much; expecting clever manipulation of exiting jutsu is more in tune with naruto's character.

pH
You make sense. But just add to your possibilities that Naruto COULD be captured. It will twist the plot and allow for us to see other Konoha ninja/ Lightning ninja fight Akatsuki. Remember, we still haven't see Kisame, Konan, Zetsu and even Hawk fight to their full capabilities yet. I honestly don't know what will happen... guess we'll just have to wait and see..
 

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hi everyone am new here ,but i think i have an idea of what is gonna happen,did you guys notice anything strange about naruto when he was grabbed buy that pein guy.he first thing he said to himself was.....my sage chakra is leaving me,i get he is absorbing my sage chakra..thats when he closed his eyes.i think what naruto is thinking is what he learned while training to become a sage if you don't remain perfectly still while drawing on it you will become a toad statue.so thats what he is doing now he is gonna drawing on the energy and it is gonna get transfer into the pein guy turning him into a toad statue.thats my prediction am almost certain thats what his plan is.
Good idea. It never crossed my mind =D
 
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hi everyone am new here ,but i think i have an idea of what is gonna happen,did you guys notice anything strange about naruto when he was grabbed buy that pein guy.he first thing he said to himself was.....my sage chakra is leaving me,i get he is absorbing my sage chakra..thats when he closed his eyes.i think what naruto is thinking is what he learned while training to become a sage if you don't remain perfectly still while drawing on it you will become a toad statue.so thats what he is doing now he is gonna drawing on the energy and it is gonna get transfer into the pein guy turning him into a toad statue.thats my prediction am almost certain thats what his plan is.
That would be funny the pein taking narutos chakra away turns into a toad statue hehe.x:ulquiorra::ichigo:
 

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I just have stupid prediction to make...though its probably not going to come true i just wanted some discusssion to take place becasue the last few posts have been boring....

My prediction: Alright, first off Naruto is not done with this fight yet, why? Because he has a fully charged clone ready to go into sage mode and Pa frog is gathering up sage chakra to create a genjutsu. Why would Kishi be preparing all of this for a concluded battle??..yeah doesn?t make sense. The Kyubi will not be released but may make an appearance in Naruto?s mind where Naruto then proceeds to tell it to, ?STFU and go on screaming in your jail!? I believe the reason why Kishi put so much focus on Hinata watching the battle this issue is to highlight the fact that she is simply watching the battle and thus will see Naruto get captured. We already know she is anxious to jump in and the last panel with her shows her scrunched up looking like she?s about to fly off into the sky like Neo! Next issue she will ignore the advice of Mr. Douche Bag McByakugan to his utter astonishment and head into the fray for Naruto?s rescue. The other genin will see her lose their reserve and join her to fight Pein. Remeber the adults are the ones holding them back, except for Kiba (*****), from the fight. The genin will distract Pein long enough from his escape for Pa and Ma frog to release their genjutsu on Pein. The genin may be caught up in it but that?s inconsequential because they?re not the enemy. Naruto will then escape and kick the living?.dead s**T outta pein for hurting his friends. Sasuke will then show up and start whining about how powerful Naruto has become then go off grumpy into the forest to train with some other evil villian.:naruto::hinata::naruto::hinata:
LOL so true sasuke would get mad and go train with some other evil villain
 
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