Stop the Violation of the System

[ZK]

So, role-players, how do you feel about yourselves? Economy alright? Wife doing fine? Why are you ruining the system? House okay? Work going good? Why are you ruining the system? Kids growing up? Parents making do? WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING AND RAPING THE SYSTEM?

So, what's the problem, Zero? Is it the role-play again? Mods getting you down?
No, actually not. While I certainly am disappointed that none of my suggestions were implemented, I can live with it. You know why? Because I've had an insider-experience. I've seen WHY we CAN'T have nice things in the role-play.
Why? Because people violate them to the absolute maximum.

Recently, I got re-acquainted with 'X'. X is a nice guy, but he makes the weirdest things sometimes. In X's bio he has a note wherein it is stated that X is immune to his own Custom Element and, apparently, all heat-related techniques. With that single note, X has effectively made the Fire element, Lava Element and all variations of them, useless.
All it took was for the bio-checker to overlook that single note.
Isn't that incredible? One would think that we follow some sort of 'logic' here on NB, but apparently not. Seriously, we can't even be trusted with our own biographies because we hide abilities and powers in our bio history. Is that not ridiculous? Are we really so immature that the Moderators have to proof-read every single thing we do and submit?

Some people still argue that their own techniques are unable to harm them. Luckily, we, as a collective, seem to have reached consensus that such a notion is untrue. So, I ask, why wouldn't X be affected by his own Custom Element if he somehow gets hit by his own technique? Why wouldn't heat affect him?

It's the same thing wherever you go. The Ion Particle Armor gives its user 3rd Gate speed with no drawbacks. Furthermore it boosts its user's Lightning Techniques with +20. The difference is that the Ion Particle Armor was created during a time where this sort of power was more regular. More people had access to such a level of speed or power. Today, it's a bit different.
I actually thought that we'd be long past the stage where we try to do such ridiculous things, but it seems obvious that we aren't. Want an example?
Ever heard of Kyoku? It's a technique of Z' that makes YOUR character's brain create a continuous F-ranked illusion that can only be broken through pain. Funny thing is that Z can make you forget how to stand, run, perform techniques, breathe, etcetera, with that technique.
Why? Because the technique is long and ambiguous.

K can cancel all Ninjutsu up to and including S-ranked with his sword. Holy crap, right?

Techniques have notes that seem to be misspelled. Instead, it turns out that the 'earth cannot be used next turn'-note actually had the intention of diallowing the use of the Earth element for the opponent, too. What?

We see examples of this even in the 'cannon' part of NB. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultimate defense technique:

Chakra Mayu [Chakra Cocoon]
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Rank: Medschool Mastery
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: the same with the offensive jutsu used (if the damage is 80 the chakra loss will be 80 etc)
Damage Points: 0
Description: The medschool senseis/masters use this technique in the battle field. In order to heal someone in the middle of it, while there are offensive jutsus thrown all over the area the healer in order to heal self or any other will generate the medical chakra to create a cocoon made of pure chakra to cover -in a shape of a bubble- his/hers and the patient's body to heal them in peace. The cocoon is made by drawing a sign in the air and it is created instantly. The technique can also be used in wars as protection against offensive jutsus.

Y used this to protect himself against severla high-ranked techniques. He answered this question:
"Then i break it with the lightning chain infused with +20 damage from my armor making it F ranked?
Can't be everlasting and unbreakable. lol"

With:

"it is, basically, you cant touch me, i cant touch you kinda deal while it is active as this system we currently have means theres no limit to my chakra"

And guess what? No usage limitations. Ah, the joy of Medjutsu, no?

I am not suggesting a complete re-do, nor am I suggesting the complete removal of these abused systems.
My suggestion is simply that the Mods should be given the power to revoke a Custom Jutsu/Custom Element Justu if it's proved to be too over-powered for the current role-playing setting. This has been done before, yes, but I think it should become a a more permanent part of our role-play.
The idea is that if you abuse something and/or sneak something stupid through the check, there should be no reward for you on the other side.
Same thing with biography abilities, and even Custom Elements.

All it takes is that the active role-players remain vigilant. If you see a technique that's grossly over-powered and being abused; notify an RP Mod.

Don't reward these sneaking bastards! Give 'em hell!
That being said; do support my Point System! =D
That being said; don't ruin everything for everyone else! =D
That being said; practise what you preach! =D

I'm not talking about fast techniques or hardcore techniques. You'll know when a technique is stupidly overpowered. Something that gives you 3rd Gate speed and can remain activated through the entire fight? Stupidly OP. Complete immunity to one or several elements? Stupidly OP.

Peace
-Zero

 

[Nightstar1994]

Too bad that in this whole Obito-fiasco nobody cares about Roleplay section anymore.

 

[ZK]

Too bad that in this whole Obito-fiasco nobody cares about Roleplay section anymore.

You tell that to all the active role-players. I'm sure they'll be surprised to discover that they, apparently, don't care anymore.

 

[Vayne]

I agree with you, you have my support in this one.

 

[Anduril]

X = Hazama (whoever that is!!!)

He seems like an incredible powerful person to fight

 

[KeotsuEclipse]

So, role-players, how do you feel about yourselves? Economy alright? Wife doing fine? Why are you ruining the system? House okay? Work going good? Why are you ruining the system? Kids growing up? Parents making do? WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING AND RAPING THE SYSTEM?

So, what's the problem, Zero? Is it the role-play again? Mods getting you down?
No, actually not. While I certainly am disappointed that none of my suggestions were implemented, I can live with it. You know why? Because I've had an insider-experience. I've seen WHY we CAN'T have nice things in the role-play.
Why? Because people violate them to the absolute maximum.

Recently, I got re-acquainted with 'X'. X is a nice guy, but he makes the weirdest things sometimes. In X's bio he has a note wherein it is stated that X is immune to his own Custom Element and, apparently, all heat-related techniques. With that single note, X has effectively made the Fire element, Lava Element and all variations of them, useless.
All it took was for the bio-checker to overlook that single note.
Isn't that incredible? One would think that we follow some sort of 'logic' here on NB, but apparently not. Seriously, we can't even be trusted with our own biographies because we hide abilities and powers in our bio history. Is that not ridiculous? Are we really so immature that the Moderators have to proof-read every single thing we do and submit?

Some people still argue that their own techniques are unable to harm them. Luckily, we, as a collective, seem to have reached consensus that such a notion is untrue. So, I ask, why wouldn't X be affected by his own Custom Element if he somehow gets hit by his own technique? Why wouldn't heat affect him?

It's the same thing wherever you go. The Ion Particle Armor gives its user 3rd Gate speed with no drawbacks. Furthermore it boosts its user's Lightning Techniques with +20. The difference is that the Ion Particle Armor was created during a time where this sort of power was more regular. More people had access to such a level of speed or power. Today, it's a bit different.
I actually thought that we'd be long past the stage where we try to do such ridiculous things, but it seems obvious that we aren't. Want an example?
Ever heard of Kyoku? It's a technique of Z' that makes YOUR character's brain create a continuous F-ranked illusion that can only be broken through pain. Funny thing is that Z can make you forget how to stand, run, perform techniques, breathe, etcetera, with that technique.
Why? Because the technique is long and ambiguous.

K can cancel all Ninjutsu up to and including S-ranked with his sword. Holy crap, right?

Techniques have notes that seem to be misspelled. Instead, it turns out that the 'earth cannot be used next turn'-note actually had the intention of diallowing the use of the Earth element for the opponent, too. What?

We see examples of this even in the 'cannon' part of NB. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultimate defense technique:

Chakra Mayu [Chakra Cocoon]
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Rank: Medschool Mastery
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: the same with the offensive jutsu used (if the damage is 80 the chakra loss will be 80 etc)
Damage Points: 0
Description: The medschool senseis/masters use this technique in the battle field. In order to heal someone in the middle of it, while there are offensive jutsus thrown all over the area the healer in order to heal self or any other will generate the medical chakra to create a cocoon made of pure chakra to cover -in a shape of a bubble- his/hers and the patient's body to heal them in peace. The cocoon is made by drawing a sign in the air and it is created instantly. The technique can also be used in wars as protection against offensive jutsus.

Y used this to protect himself against severla high-ranked techniques. He answered this question:
"Then i break it with the lightning chain infused with +20 damage from my armor making it F ranked?
Can't be everlasting and unbreakable. lol"

With:

"it is, basically, you cant touch me, i cant touch you kinda deal while it is active as this system we currently have means theres no limit to my chakra"

And guess what? No usage limitations. Ah, the joy of Medjutsu, no?

I am not suggesting a complete re-do, nor am I suggesting the complete removal of these abused systems.
My suggestion is simply that the Mods should be given the power to revoke a Custom Jutsu/Custom Element Justu if it's proved to be too over-powered for the current role-playing setting. This has been done before, yes, but I think it should become a a more permanent part of our role-play.
The idea is that if you abuse something and/or sneak something stupid through the check, there should be no reward for you on the other side.
Same thing with biography abilities, and even Custom Elements.

All it takes is that the active role-players remain vigilant. If you see a technique that's grossly over-powered and being abused; notify an RP Mod.

Don't reward these sneaking bastards! Give 'em hell!
That being said; do support my Point System! =D
That being said; don't ruin everything for everyone else! =D
That being said; practise what you preach! =D

I'm not talking about fast techniques or hardcore techniques. You'll know when a technique is stupidly overpowered. Something that gives you 3rd Gate speed and can remain activated through the entire fight? Stupidly OP. Complete immunity to one or several elements? Stupidly OP.

Peace
-Zero

Yeah, it's pretty bad, considering that K also can make it go up to and including Forbidden rank techniques, making him immune to practically anything, if he wants, and then proceed to dole out 2160 damage two turns later with Set-up that the opponent won't be able to stop since they can't damage him.

...But, I do agree with your point. I've tried my best to make my intentions clear with my techniques. Though it's happened by accident, especially with my Summons, I never intended to sneak power by anyone.

Truth be told, the Mods - as far as I know - do have the power to revoke things, but generally don't due to the cries of unfairness or favoritism that will come with it. "Why did A get to keep his technique and I'm losing mine?" Things like that.

However, I can say this. The unbalanced amount of power that comes from a lot of these customs stems from the fact that our RP system itself is unbalanced and crappy.

For example, if there were actually a way to actively use freeform, and a way to combat Genjutsu (as of right now, Genjutsu jutsu is EXTREMELY overpowered, but no one seems to notice), I would willing give up all my Customs, so that I could fight as a Samurai and still have fun, without having to have made such ridiculous customs just so I can fight in Free-form like I want. It's impossible at the moment, as even with a well thought out and described movement, you're not allowed to "dodge" jutsu.

This RP is all about Power or Speed, and not fun, and that severely needs to be fixed.

I'm sure I digressed somewhere or beat around the bush, but, ultimately, I agree with you. But, also, perhaps the Narutoverse isn't one that's well designed for an RP, either.

 

[ReXii]

So, role-players, how do you feel about yourselves? Economy alright? Wife doing fine? Why are you ruining the system? House okay? Work going good? Why are you ruining the system? Kids growing up? Parents making do? WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING AND RAPING THE SYSTEM?

So, what's the problem, Zero? Is it the role-play again? Mods getting you down?
No, actually not. While I certainly am disappointed that none of my suggestions were implemented, I can live with it. You know why? Because I've had an insider-experience. I've seen WHY we CAN'T have nice things in the role-play.
Why? Because people violate them to the absolute maximum.

Recently, I got re-acquainted with 'X'. X is a nice guy, but he makes the weirdest things sometimes. In X's bio he has a note wherein it is stated that X is immune to his own Custom Element and, apparently, all heat-related techniques. With that single note, X has effectively made the Fire element, Lava Element and all variations of them, useless.
All it took was for the bio-checker to overlook that single note.
Isn't that incredible? One would think that we follow some sort of 'logic' here on NB, but apparently not. Seriously, we can't even be trusted with our own biographies because we hide abilities and powers in our bio history. Is that not ridiculous? Are we really so immature that the Moderators have to proof-read every single thing we do and submit?

Some people still argue that their own techniques are unable to harm them. Luckily, we, as a collective, seem to have reached consensus that such a notion is untrue. So, I ask, why wouldn't X be affected by his own Custom Element if he somehow gets hit by his own technique? Why wouldn't heat affect him?

It's the same thing wherever you go. The Ion Particle Armor gives its user 3rd Gate speed with no drawbacks. Furthermore it boosts its user's Lightning Techniques with +20. The difference is that the Ion Particle Armor was created during a time where this sort of power was more regular. More people had access to such a level of speed or power. Today, it's a bit different.
I actually thought that we'd be long past the stage where we try to do such ridiculous things, but it seems obvious that we aren't. Want an example?
Ever heard of Kyoku? It's a technique of Z' that makes YOUR character's brain create a continuous F-ranked illusion that can only be broken through pain. Funny thing is that Z can make you forget how to stand, run, perform techniques, breathe, etcetera, with that technique.
Why? Because the technique is long and ambiguous.

K can cancel all Ninjutsu up to and including S-ranked with his sword. Holy crap, right?

Techniques have notes that seem to be misspelled. Instead, it turns out that the 'earth cannot be used next turn'-note actually had the intention of diallowing the use of the Earth element for the opponent, too. What?

We see examples of this even in the 'cannon' part of NB. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultimate defense technique:

Chakra Mayu [Chakra Cocoon]
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Rank: Medschool Mastery
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: the same with the offensive jutsu used (if the damage is 80 the chakra loss will be 80 etc)
Damage Points: 0
Description: The medschool senseis/masters use this technique in the battle field. In order to heal someone in the middle of it, while there are offensive jutsus thrown all over the area the healer in order to heal self or any other will generate the medical chakra to create a cocoon made of pure chakra to cover -in a shape of a bubble- his/hers and the patient's body to heal them in peace. The cocoon is made by drawing a sign in the air and it is created instantly. The technique can also be used in wars as protection against offensive jutsus.

Y used this to protect himself against severla high-ranked techniques. He answered this question:
"Then i break it with the lightning chain infused with +20 damage from my armor making it F ranked?
Can't be everlasting and unbreakable. lol"

With:

"it is, basically, you cant touch me, i cant touch you kinda deal while it is active as this system we currently have means theres no limit to my chakra"

And guess what? No usage limitations. Ah, the joy of Medjutsu, no?

I am not suggesting a complete re-do, nor am I suggesting the complete removal of these abused systems.
My suggestion is simply that the Mods should be given the power to revoke a Custom Jutsu/Custom Element Justu if it's proved to be too over-powered for the current role-playing setting. This has been done before, yes, but I think it should become a a more permanent part of our role-play.
The idea is that if you abuse something and/or sneak something stupid through the check, there should be no reward for you on the other side.
Same thing with biography abilities, and even Custom Elements.

All it takes is that the active role-players remain vigilant. If you see a technique that's grossly over-powered and being abused; notify an RP Mod.

Don't reward these sneaking bastards! Give 'em hell!
That being said; do support my Point System! =D
That being said; don't ruin everything for everyone else! =D
That being said; practise what you preach! =D

I'm not talking about fast techniques or hardcore techniques. You'll know when a technique is stupidly overpowered. Something that gives you 3rd Gate speed and can remain activated through the entire fight? Stupidly OP. Complete immunity to one or several elements? Stupidly OP.

Peace
-Zero

Well its funny you should mention this, Keotsu, Who is K which is obvious, I can kind of accept his techniques, He's a samurai so if you fight him be prepared to step in to his domain.

But its the Y that interested me, As i recognise my own writing and that of my opponent at the time, Basically, I would happily question the unbreakable sustained infinite regeneration technique, Only when i do, It can only be said to Nexus, Who probably if i ever get hold of him on a free day, Will answer with meh, Because the techniques being updated is a long and troublesome stint, So what i would like to add to your questions and suggestions is a proposal, All canon techniques, Past the 2 year mark should be updated with current knowledge, This shouldn't fall to a singular mod as it has in the past, It should be done via a group effort, Hell i would be willing to do it myself if it made a difference, All CJ that are OP should be allowed to surface before being edited, But only if they are actually OP, I mean if we just restrict everything nobody will be able to do squat anymore, It can't work for some and not all, Either all OP jutsu go or none, I mean i see a lot of OP lately, Genjutsu that gives you a bigger boost then CM2 and doesnt kill you at the end, Makes no sense and is flawed as hell in my opinion, Its equal to the CM2 of heaven and earth at the same time, Making it better then SM also, So effectively, In learning said genjutsu, I wouldn't need to take the SM test again.
So yes i do see your point, But the rules can't apply to one and not another, All OP should be disposed of or none of it and slacken restrictions, Its a one way street at the moment, I can't get jutsu approved that seem even a tad OP, Yet if i fight old schoolers like mugi or something, I end up getting a dose of RF that activates with a click of the fingers and travels at the speed of light, Yes the speed of light, Thats a CE faster then anything except FTG or Space migration.

 

[Igneel]

I agree^^
I think I have read the bio abilities of hazama and I noticed he mentioning that he is not immune to fire related techniques,but just a bit resistant or something like that ~_~

The ion armour is OP and it is being misused currently.
There are some other OP jutsu's like lightning manipulation(-_o freakin powerful)but since its not being spammed or misused,I have no probs with that^^

 

[Anduril]

Well its funny you should mention this, Keotsu, Who is K which is obvious, I can kind of accept his techniques, He's a samurai so if you fight him be prepared to step in to his domain.

But its the Y that interested me, As i recognise my own writing and that of my opponent at the time, Basically, I would happily question the unbreakable sustained infinite regeneration technique, Only when i do, It can only be said to Nexus, Who probably if i ever get hold of him on a free day, Will answer with meh, Because the techniques being updated is a long and troublesome stint, So what i would like to add to your questions and suggestions is a proposal, All canon techniques, Past the 2 year mark should be updated with current knowledge, This shouldn't fall to a singular mod as it has in the past, It should be done via a group effort, Hell i would be willing to do it myself if it made a difference, All CJ that are OP should be allowed to surface before being edited, But only if they are actually OP, I mean if we just restrict everything nobody will be able to do squat anymore, It can't work for some and not all, Either all OP jutsu go or none, I mean i see a lot of OP lately, Genjutsu that gives you a bigger boost then CM2 and doesnt kill you at the end, Makes no sense and is flawed as hell in my opinion, Its equal to the CM2 of heaven and earth at the same time, Making it better then SM also, So effectively, In learning said genjutsu, I wouldn't need to take the SM test again.
So yes i do see your point, But the rules can't apply to one and not another, All OP should be disposed of or none of it and slacken restrictions, Its a one way street at the moment, I can't get jutsu approved that seem even a tad OP, Yet if i fight old schoolers like mugi or something, I end up getting a dose of RF that activates with a click of the fingers and travels at the speed of light, Yes the speed of light, Thats a CE faster then anything except FTG or Space migration.

I think a (.) is followed by a capital letter and not (,).

 

[ReXii]

I think a (.) is followed by a capital letter and not (,).

Thank you for your useful addition to the thread, Please,Say,Something,Valid,Next,Time,Instead.
Mmmkay?

 

[Anduril]

Thank you for your useful addition to the thread, Please,Say,Something,Valid,Next,Time,Instead.
Mmmkay?

Useful addition?? Yeah you are right!!

I agree with zero on this one. The examples he has shown are pretty preposterous. Since I am myself not up to date with the RP, I do not know about the existence of this med jutsu, which looks like a scripted loop hole.

About the med jutsu, we can just add a small note, that the jutsu can only be used when trying to heal someone or jutsu user himself. In short remove the part "The technique can also be used in wars as protection against offensive jutsus. "

And add a limit to the number of times it can be used.

 

[Pervyy]

1. You saw a problem in X's bio, point it out to a mod, they will investigate.

2. You're moaning about a cj? I spoke with a mod during our last fight and he said it was from a time before cfs which makes your armour valid and that your bio emits pulses? Making gen rather useless against you, and you're moaning about someone elses cj and a problem in their bio?

3. Anything that can stop S ranks has drawbacks. I'm guessing swords means it's a samurai bio jutsu and so they can't use elements ect...

4. The medjutsu was created by Nexus, and they can't attack while that jutsu is active.


Alls you've done is moan about people. Now you've done that people are just gonna get more pissed off and quit the rp because it's changed so much and you're taking away their fun. We've had this before when Xanthe moaned about heat sensing and stuff because Ali gave it to me and house...

You really wanna keep moaning or just avoid fighting people that aren't fun?

 

[-Logic-]

I like this thread... but the thing is... it won't change anything. It's a bit annoying that all these over-powered techniques are lying within unfathomable depths of Narutobase, but the way I see it, you just have to deal with it. 'Tough' as my teacher would say if I told her that someone had taken my seat. Sometimes in life, you have to 'deal with it', unfortunately, this is one of those times. It doesn't matter which RP you look in, you'll always find ridiculously overpowered things. Some of the stuff you've listed is an example of these overpowered techniques; but there's not much we can do about it.

As you stated in the OP, back then, techniques like those were considered the norm, and perhaps, not as OP as we see them today, so to take away their powers is unfair. It's like telling a kid to move because he sat in your seat first; you just have to move on.

Just my 2 cents on the matter. O_O

 

[Scorps]

X had his CE approved with immunity to high temperatures and his own CE. But not fire or any other element envolving and revolving around heat. That is a given. Specially when his CE isn't the hottest CE in NB.

As for the rest, I'm curious to know who is K and Z as i'm not recognizing those techs or those effects. One thing I know is that since January, no such things were approved.

 

[Pervyy]

Yeah, it's pretty bad, considering that K also can make it go up to and including Forbidden rank techniques, making him immune to practically anything, if he wants, and then proceed to dole out 2160 damage two turns later with Set-up that the opponent won't be able to stop since they can't damage him.

...But, I do agree with your point. I've tried my best to make my intentions clear with my techniques. Though it's happened by accident, especially with my Summons, I never intended to sneak power by anyone.

Truth be told, the Mods - as far as I know - do have the power to revoke things, but generally don't due to the cries of unfairness or favoritism that will come with it. "Why did A get to keep his technique and I'm losing mine?" Things like that.

However, I can say this. The unbalanced amount of power that comes from a lot of these customs stems from the fact that our RP system itself is unbalanced and crappy.

For example, if there were actually a way to actively use freeform, and a way to combat Genjutsu (as of right now, Genjutsu jutsu is EXTREMELY overpowered, but no one seems to notice), I would willing give up all my Customs, so that I could fight as a Samurai and still have fun, without having to have made such ridiculous customs just so I can fight in Free-form like I want. It's impossible at the moment, as even with a well thought out and described movement, you're not allowed to "dodge" jutsu.

This RP is all about Power or Speed, and not fun, and that severely needs to be fixed.

I'm sure I digressed somewhere or beat around the bush, but, ultimately, I agree with you. But, also, perhaps the Narutoverse isn't one that's well designed for an RP, either.

Only just read this but i don't agree with you.

The rp is about fun, those who don't know how to have fun are all about speed and power. I've found this out by rping as jiraiya lately, just using his abilities and how he faught in the manga/anime and it's alot more fun. I can say the same for Gaara using sand, house and hyuuga techniques, Rexii using Minato's abilities, Scorps as Hashirama, SY as wood... ect...

Ok the power is nice, but it's not fun to just use the highest ranked techniques all the time.

As for breaking out of gen you can just hurt yourself right?
Or use kai as a samurai? As it's just your chakra.
Or just say no gen in a fight.

The rp doesn't suck, it's just been left open for your own fun. If you don't like the OP stuff as you call it, don't fight it, find your own fun, make your own rules. Make the rp your own.

 

[KeotsuEclipse]

X had his CE approved with immunity to high temperatures and his own CE. But not fire or any other element envolving and revolving around heat. That is a given. Specially when his CE isn't the hottest CE in NB.

As for the rest, I'm curious to know who is K and Z as i'm not recognizing those techs or those effects. One thing I know is that since January, no such things were approved.

I am K, I believe, and these are the techniques in question:

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Specifically, the "First Prayer". By using all my Kenjutsu boosting abilities, I can increase it's strength to include and upto Forbidden Rank techniques. They were approved the July of last year, by Zen.

 

[House]

I love how you present the argument. Made my day. Also, I agree about the chakra cocoon. Once someone has it, he becomes literary undefeatable but that was the idea of the old ages. The problem is that the rules and the system was "nerfed" so much that these techniques stand out as being "cheap moves" as someone had added in the Tourney in these times. Thus being said, "don't hate the players, blame the system" that we can't be OPed by a legid way anymore.

 

[KeotsuEclipse]

Only just read this but i don't agree with you.

The rp is about fun, those who don't know how to have fun are all about speed and power. I've found this out by rping as jiraiya lately, just using his abilities and how he faught in the manga/anime and it's alot more fun. I can say the same for Gaara using sand, house and hyuuga techniques, Rexii using Minato's abilities, Scorps as Hashirama, SY as wood... ect...

Ok the power is nice, but it's not fun to just use the highest ranked techniques all the time.

As for breaking out of gen you can just hurt yourself right?
Or use kai as a samurai? As it's just your chakra.
Or just say no gen in a fight.

The rp doesn't suck, it's just been left open for your own fun. If you don't like the OP stuff as you call it, don't fight it, find your own fun, make your own rules. Make the rp your own.

How can you hurt yourself if your entire body is paralyized?
How can Samurai use Kai, when we're not allowed to since it's classified as a "Ninjutsu"?

And how fair is it for me to say to someone "No Gen" in a fight, when Gen is their specialty? That'd be like someone telling me "No Ken." Ultimately, there needs to be a balance, so that anyone has the ability to fight anyone, and that it ultimately comes down to the skill of the person using the abilities, not the abilities themselves.

 

[-Logic-]

Maybe a thread should be created in which people post techniques they think are OP and then the original owners of the technique re-submit it, reducing it's power slightly? That'd piss off a bunch of people though - and create too much work for the mods. >_<'

 

[Scorps]

I am K, I believe, and these are the techniques in question:

You must be registered for see links

Specifically, the "First Prayer". By using all my Kenjutsu boosting abilities, I can increase it's strength to include and upto Forbidden Rank techniques. They were approved the July of last year, by Zen.

Read it for the like...10th time or so. Didn't think it was yours mainly because I can see about...hum...5 (mininum) cannon ways to defeat you even if you use them to their fullest extent...and this is not counting Custom ways. Because of that, I don't find it unreasonable or overpowered even if the end result is powerfull.

As for the issue of revoking things from the users, its not done lightly. It was approved at some point meaning that in that point it fullfilled every single logic reasoning that was needed in order to approve a technique. It that time, it made sense. Its very very complicated to take something away from a member when its already a mayhem of moaning and arguments when we simply decline a CJ. It has been done before but only in extreme cases. Its not something we take lightly or do on a whim. Example: Dante.. tried to upgrade his Rebellion CW. At this point in time that CW would never be approved. If i was to check it, I'd need to do it like i would do to any other CW in the base. And doing so, he'd end with a weaker CW. Instead i checked it with "don't try and update it because you'll need to drop things and make it weaker to be approved now than it was back then". I could have simply declined it...forever. But i also understand that once approved its approved. It shouldnt be taken down on a whim. The RP evolves, yes, but we shouldn't be to hasty or too harsh on such matters.

However Zero, what you should be complaining about should be the basic knowledge of the RPears and not the oped techniques. I've been checking the fights of the tournament as you all know and have seen people who have mastered everything (some are senpais, senseis, former ones, etc) do the most ridiculous, illogical, weird moves or assumptions that its painfull to read. Some don't even know how to use their own customs or the customs they get acess to. The problem of the RP isn't the oped techniques imo as most members have access to one or two powerfull techniques. The problem is that most supposedly top notch role players don't know how to play.