What was the control jutsu used on Yagura?
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Ryan Ensign
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Why did Ao and Mei think it was Shisui's power? It couldn't have been, for obvious reasons. Maybe long-haired Tobi had Kotoamatsukami or the same type of chakra as Shisui?
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Well, certainly a genjutsu. And Mei seems to believe it is Kotoamatsukami (Chapter 461). And Kotoamatsukami is the only known genjutsu that can have that effect. However, the only known users of that tech are Shisui, Danzo, and Itachi, and both of those latter users got that power from Shisui. Shisui is the only person known to have been born to that power. And the ultimate power of a sharingan varies from user to user, with Kamui being the power of Obito's eyes. And Shisui is dead, Danzo was in Konoha directing things from the shadows, and Itachi wasn't puppeteering the Mizukage.
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I'm not sure that works. Amaterasu brings the illusion to reality, and, it's opposite, Tsukuyomi, brings the reality into the illusion. Tsukuyomi draws the spirit and mind of a target into an illusory world. It doesn't grant control on the external actions or words of the target, at least, so far as I know and would seem to make sense.
you´re right i´m not sure too but with the mugen tsukuyomi, tobi/madara will control the whole narutoverse. they need the juubi to realize a genjutsu this big but for one person could a little portion of a bijuu be enough 
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Yeahhhh, but Infinite Tsukuyomi doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to control everyone's physical interactions. At a minimum, he will be dragging everyone's consciousnesses into the same illusory world, but, beyond that, I don't know what's involved.
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That's a great question. Not only was Yagura a jinchuuriki, but he was supposed to be one of the few perfect jinchuuriki with a perfect bond with his Bijuu. In theory, those kinds of jinchuuriki should be immune to genjutsu.
For Tobi (Obito) to have controlled him anyway, with complete control for over a decade or more, is pretty impressive. That seems like a more powerful genjutsu than either Itachi or Shisui had (and those were both better with genjutsu than Sasuke has ever been).
And if his occular genjutsu is so powerful, why didn't he use it on Minato and end the fight immediately? Or use it on Konan immediately and save himself an eye (and an arm)? Or use it on Danzo at some point in order to steal Shisui's eye? If Obito/Tobi has such a powerful genjutsu, he could have used it in a lot of useful ways, but he didn't.
In fact, why use Akatsuki to capture Jinchuuriki at all? If he can gain perfect control over them, why wouldn't he go out and control all the jinchuuriki directly, and force them to come back to akatsuki headquarters without a fight?
And if he was in complete control over Yagura for so long, why didn't he capture the 3-tails during this time? Why was the 3-tails able to roam free after this point?
There are a lot of things that really don't make sense here.