Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

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  • I knew it was Obito/ I win you lose/ apologise now

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  • It is only part Obito. (Both of us were right)

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

i took the cookie, before i read, am i a bad boy ?

But yeah this motives are the mostly logical ones to think about an such drastic Change~

P.S. We never had evidence of Tobi existing before Obito, we just have Obito/Tobis & Madaras words, but still we do not "know" when madara died. First Tobi Appearance was Konoha attack, and that is our start point of Tobi anything else is speculation~
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

dint obito want to know kakashi better when he got crushed he seemed more or less at peace i dont think he has any resentment toward kakashi he just belivs the shinobi world is currupt and unfixuble hence the eye of the moon plan
i dont know if this makes sense
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

i took the cookie, before i read, am i a bad boy ?

But yeah this motives are the mostly logical ones to think about an such drastic Change~

P.S. We never had evidence of Tobi existing before Obito, we just have Obito/Tobis & Madaras words, but still we do not "know" when madara died. First Tobi Appearance was Konoha attack, and that is our start point of Tobi anything else is speculation~
I openned the gift but i didnt read it all ax0a0x0a0xa00x0ax0a0 pure evil!!!! xD
:O Just like Tobi and Sasuke.

lol Yeah. The first physical evidence of 'Tobi' was certainly after Obito's birth. Thanks to Itachi, I always think 'Words are false until proven otherwise'
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

If Obito liked being a member of the Uchiha clan as you claim, then why did he kill the Uchiha clan for no apparent reason other than stocking up on good eyes? And also, the Kyuubi attack is what led toward the isolation of the Uchiha clan and eventually the clan massacre.
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

If Obito liked being a member of the Uchiha clan as you claim, then why did he kill the Uchiha clan for no apparent reason other than stocking up on good eyes? And also, the Kyuubi attack is what led toward the isolation of the Uchiha clan and eventually the clan massacre.
Did you not even read my post? Apparently you did not. He was manipulated, lightly at first, just to see the dark side of Konoha and then to hate them; loathe them.

In his mind, killing the Uchiha Clan was probably the only way to assure them peace.
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

Did you not even read my post? Apparently you did not. He was manipulated, lightly at first, just to see the dark side of Konoha and then to hate them; loathe them.

In his mind, killing the Uchiha Clan was probably the only way to assure them peace.
Sorry bro, makes no sense. See, his actions led directly to the Uchiha massacre which he actually took part in for no apparent reason :/
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

We really don't know much about Obito's true personality as a child. Given that Kishi has been drawing parallels between Naruto and Obito, it's entirely possible that he was ignored and neglected which, like Naruto, fed his rivalry with Kakashi who 'had everything'.

If that's the case, we simply need to ask ourselves what is it that kept Naruto from becoming a psychopath. The answer to that is obvious; He had people who acknowledged him and believed in his dreams.

And given what we've seen of Obito during his flashbacks, Obito honestly lacked that. He was constantly overlooked for Kakashi by everyone, even Rin. He made Chuunin, and what does Rin do? She doesn't celebrate or congratulate him, she invites him to a party to celebrate Kakashi's promotion, presumably without even telling him her intentions.

That's pretty low.

So Obito probably had a lot of hate. And let's think about what happened after Kannabi Bridge; Despite the fact that Obito sacrificed himself to save Rin and Kakashi and gave them the tools to complete their mission, Obito was probably remembered as nothing more than another casualty of war while Kakashi became 'the Hero'.

That'd piss anyone off.

So whoever retrieved Obito probably had a lot of hatred to work with. The personality shift really isn't that unlikely all things considered.
 

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Re: Who I think Tobi is...

there still isnt 100 percent proof nor has kishi confirmed obito is tobi, just cause they show him with the mask off, dosent mean its him, it could be a genjutsu, or a jutsu
 

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Re: A Tragedy of the Ninja World: Uchiha Obito

We really don't know much about Obito's true personality as a child. Given that Kishi has been drawing parallels between Naruto and Obito, it's entirely possible that he was ignored and neglected which, like Naruto, fed his rivalry with Kakashi who 'had everything'.

If that's the case, we simply need to ask ourselves what is it that kept Naruto from becoming a psychopath. The answer to that is obvious; He had people who acknowledged him and believed in his dreams.

And given what we've seen of Obito during his flashbacks, Obito honestly lacked that. He was constantly overlooked for Kakashi by everyone, even Rin. He made Chuunin, and what does Rin do? She doesn't celebrate or congratulate him, she invites him to a party to celebrate Kakashi's promotion, presumably without even telling him her intentions.

That's pretty low.

So Obito probably had a lot of hate. And let's think about what happened after Kannabi Bridge; Despite the fact that Obito sacrificed himself to save Rin and Kakashi and gave them the tools to complete their mission, Obito was probably remembered as nothing more than another casualty of war while Kakashi became 'the Hero'.

That'd piss anyone off.

So whoever retrieved Obito probably had a lot of hatred to work with. The personality shift really isn't that unlikely all things considered.
^^^^This. The Uchiha clan considered him a 'true' Uchiha because he could use the Fireball, but still. He was weak for an Uchiha. You're probably right.
 
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