Ummm....OrochiSasuke?...Or not... :shrug:I believe Tobi is Obito 100%. If Kishi says he is not I wouldn't be bothered, and i would continue to read/watch my favorite manga.
Just while we're on the subject op, let me ask you a quick question, since you brought up Orochimaru.
Let's just say Orochimaru completed his goal of taking over Sasuke's body, would you call him Orochimaru or Sasuke?
I will call him Orochimaru beacause of the soul , the consciousness is what defines a person !I believe Tobi is Obito 100%. If Kishi says he is not I wouldn't be bothered, and i would continue to read/watch my favorite manga.
Just while we're on the subject op, let me ask you a quick question, since you brought up Orochimaru.
Let's just say Orochimaru completed his goal of taking over Sasuke's body, would you call him Orochimaru or Sasuke?
yeah he never did that in the manga never bro xdI don't really care either way but I don't think Kishi would troll everyone like that.
Well how did he know what Obito looked like or even who he is for that matter.My theory is Tobi is a Zetsu of Madara.
He can shape-shift like he did when he transfored to Kisame when he fought Killer-Bee.
He showed Kisame his face and Kisame saw Madara.
When he fought Minato his hand melted off.
Madara
It was obviously Zetsu.
He's the only one who could help him in such a situation,,he's the Earth itself remember?
kishi did
But how could he have warped from under the rocks he didn't learn Kamui just yet, maybe after but he just activated his sharingan like 10 mins prior.
lol well he was a proud uchiha to begin with.
Or maybe orochimaru got him. he was the first villian after all maybe they are making him the last? he saw obito and was like
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Danzo. He learned that there was an Uchiha buried in Kusagakure and sent out his men to retrieve him. Seriously. Danzo had his fingers in every main villian's life. Orochimaru, Nagato, Kabuto, Sasuke....Why break the cycle with Obito? >>
I have pretty much multi-quoted every post in this thread because at this point, I think now that Kishi has "identified" Tobi the only real question that Kishi should actually put time in answering and explaining is how all the Villains inter-connect since we have seen (especially in the past 20 or so chapters) that though they may be from different time-lines, they all know one another.izuna and zetsu
Well my point for that question is this.I will call him Orochimaru beacause of the soul , the consciousness is what defines a person !
A body is just a shell that ages .....
Maybe that is why tobi was saying i am just a shell .... hmmm ?
Those are words that can be played and interpreted...you see... there are two translation and i belive *********** translate better !Well my point for that question is this.
You clearly disagree "His name is Obito" is proof of him being Obito. So I figure you are of the mind that "His name is Obito" leaves room for Obito to be just a shell, or body
So let me get this straight, when it's about Tobi, his name refers to the body, or the shell.
But when it's about Orochimaru, his name refers to the consciousness, or the soul.
If it was someone, say Izuna's consciousness, using just the Obito shell/body, wouldn't it have said "His name is Izuna" according to what you just said you believe?