You have no right to call Kishi a troll for Obito being Tobi.

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Maybe orochimaru save him.. that why he know Danzo and Oro plan.. just 2cent
 

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dude this thread is awsome + rep, but i still feel trolled because obito became a child prodigy overnight and almost killed his mentor minato. we shall have to wait and see the explanations kisha has for us next week xd

by the way why wouldn't obito want to become hokage? :confused:
 

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Keep evading my comment, you all probably saw it and said "Damn, this is true I will just ignore it and keep being a 1 day fanboy" All of you who are saying "Oh yeah yeah Tobi=Obito" were probably the first ones flaming the "noobs" when they made a thread about it, now you all hop on the bandwagon, embarrassing -_-

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I went to sleep and now I am hosting the anime disscussion thread, I will read your thread soon, kinda busy now xd

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Wow, I'm so impressed. Kishi must have been too lazy to draw new poses :|
 

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Wow, I'm so impressed. Kishi must have been too lazy to draw new poses :|

Are you trolling -_-

He did that to show how far naruto has come since his first real mission. We can see him in BM now and using the rasengan. He is much stronger now.

Also he done that to relate back to chapter 16 page to when he put the title chapter "who are you?" which was the first time anyone ever saw obito
 

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Shinobe if i could give you six stars i would bro.
 

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Shinobe if i could give you six stars i would bro.

Lol it's funny when Tobi was first introduced we all thought he was Obito but then Kishi disproved all the retarded reasons why such as name, behaviour and hair as he said his name was uchiha madara, flash backs with longer hair and he turned into one of the most serious guys in the series. Then I thought nah there's no way he is obito.

But then I thought wait wait if I look past the retardred reasons maybe I could find some real ones and to my shock I found many legitimate reasons of why this mask man could be obito. But I don't like how kishi did this.

Go to the "Why there were so many plot holes" section and read the "Why you can call kishi a troll" subheading there to read and remember why I don't like this
 

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Lol it's funny when Tobi was first introduced we all thought he was Obito but then Kishi disproved all the retarded reasons why such as name, behaviour and hair as he said his name was uchiha madara, flash backs with longer hair and he turned into one of the most serious guys in the series. Then I thought nah there's no way he is obito.

But then I thought wait wait if I look past the retardred reasons maybe I could find some real ones and to my shock I found many legitimate reasons of why this mask man could be obito. But I don't like how kishi did this.

Go to the "Why there were so many plot holes" section and read the "Why you can call kishi a troll" subheading there to read and remember why I don't like this

Yeah, i never like that part myself-- it was a troll from him. He should of kept the long hair from the beginning that his character got introduced in the story.
 

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Yeah, i never like that part myself-- it was a troll from him. He should of kept the long hair from the beginning that his character got introduced in the story.

I really don't know why Kishi took that method, it wasn't really that great. But I guess it could be one of his mistakes in this series/ or just a thing most people didn't like.

What can fix all this is the next coming chapters which should be back stories how obito survived, how he ended up like this and his connections to madara and all the other characters his got involved in.

One thing that may surprise people is I never desperately wanted Obito to be Tobi I wanted it to be kagami and I wanted him and madara to be involved with hashirama's death and tobirama's death.

But as you can see I done an insane amount of research into who Tobi is and I just saw the signs my self. I had to get real and accept it but on the other hand I don't mind it. I can see why kishi done it Obito the uchiha version of Naruto that came to realise that dreams don't come true and the many other harsh reality's of life. "The boy that use to have a dream" as kishi calls it.

This post was one of the realest post I had create and is exactly why Kishi made obito tobi:

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Tobi is obito is the uchiha version of naruto.

Didn't anyone notice by the hair, goggles, colour scheme, behaviour, loser.

The only difference is uchiha's have a curse of hatred and senju's/uzumaki's have the will of fire and will become the light.

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They were destined to fight, who's nido way will pull through, the guy who didn't give up on his dreams or the guy who came to realise the cruel reality that there is no such thing as heroes and dreams never come true.

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But as I have always said I don't care who tobi is I just hope the back story is EPIC and entertaining
 
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I really don't know why Kishi took that method, it wasn't really that great. But I guess it could be one of his mistakes in this series/ or just a thing most people didn't like.

What can fix all this is the next coming chapters which should be back stories how obito survived, how he ended up like this and his connections to madara and all the other characters his got involved in.

One thing that may surprise people is I never desperately wanted Obito to be Tobi I wanted it to be kagami and I wanted him and madara to be involved with hashirama's death and tobirama's death.

But as you can see I done an insane amount of research into who Tobi is and I just saw the signs my self. I had to get real and accept it but on the other hand I don't mind it. I can see why kishi done it Obito the uchiha version of Naruto that came to realise that dreams don't come true and the many other harsh reality's of life. "The boy that use to have a dream" as kishi calls it.

This post was one of the realest post I had create and is exactly why Kishi made obito tobi:

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Tobi is obito is the uchiha version of naruto.

Didn't anyone notice by the hair, goggles, colour scheme, behaviour, loser.

The only difference is uchiha's have a curse of hatred and senju's/uzumaki's have the will of fire and will become the light.

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They were destined to fight, who's nido way will pull through, the guy who didn't give up on his dreams or the guy who came to realise the cruel reality that there is no such thing as heroes and dreams never come true.

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But as I have always said I don't care who tobi is I just hope the back story is EPIC and entertaining

I will you tell you can never miss a Naruto face. That kid over there has it, The kid on the street corner, The kid going to the ramen place, The kid running around the alley, The kid painting on the Hokage faces, etc.. Too many Naruto's in this series. I am kind of glad that Nawaki was cut from the picture. I can't image more Naruto's.

Even though i'm interested how Obito survived the rock impact. I want to find out more about his connection with Madara.

To be honest, i wanted Tobi to be Kagami Uchiha, if not Izuna.
 

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I will you tell you can never miss a Naruto face. That kid over there has it, The kid on the street corner, The kid going to the ramen place, The kid running around the alley, The kid painting on the Hokage faces, etc.. Too many Naruto's in this series. I am kind of glad that Nawaki was cut from the picture. I can't image more Naruto's.

Even though i'm interested how Obito survived the rock impact. I want to find out more about his connection with Madara.

To be honest, i wanted Tobi to be Kagami Uchiha, if not Izuna.

Yh same here, I won't to find out to.

I never thought it was Izuna for a number of reasons, I could see Kishi was building up on a variety of villains. Oro from hiruzen's time sasuke from naruto's madara's from hashi's and make them have different reasons for being villains.

Izuna and madara are basically the same type of villain infact izuna would even be weaker then madara, so I couldn't understand why kishi would have to of the same villains with the same reasons for their hatred.

Also a more logical reason was Izuna didn't look anything like the tobi we have seen so far, have a look at a troll thread I made a while ago.

What I am saying is true but tbh in a manga things like them not looking anything alike does not matter so much.

Have a look at the troll thread below:

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We know tobi is not madara,itachi,shisui and itachi's dad. But if tobi is a character we know that means we are looking at him right now.

Funny enough all the candidates of tobi make a T in this picture.

But also izuna and sasuke have the same hair colour which is black with tint blue.

Obito and kagami are the only characters which pure black hair.. just saying..

The troll thread is sillier reasons but all together I never thought tobi was izuna
 
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Damn, nice work. + rep
 

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Why wont anyone put spoiler alerts? Why? Do you read the rules? wtf...
 

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Yes we do because we are fans and fans have a right to criticize this bullshit.

The orginal title was "..Until after you read this thread" but they thread got moved mistakenly also it was abit to long of a title. So I made it again with a shorter title.

The title was meant to mean listen to my points of why he is not a troll before you go round calling him a troll. Either way I gave my reasons defending him
 

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maybe the guy with the long hair and obito are two different people.

we never saw Obito(tobi) using any genjutsu!
But we saw him using S/T !!!

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We never saw the long haired tobi using Any S/T tech.
He cannot fool itachi and kisame, if it was obito or someone else, we would know.
He was helping itachi kill uchiha and used mizukage as a mere pawn, means obito never kill uchihas .
He seemed to be really good at genjutsu.


And one question,
did i read it correct when you said, tobi(obito) went against the whole world just he hold a grudge against kakashi ?
 

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maybe the guy with the long hair and obito are two different people.

we never saw Obito(tobi) using any genjutsu!
But we saw him using S/T !!!

and

We never saw the long haired tobi using Any S/T tech.
He cannot fool itachi and kisame, if it was obito or someone else, we would know.
He was helping itachi kill uchiha and used mizukage as a mere pawn, means obito never kill uchihas .
He seemed to be really good at genjutsu.


And one question,
did i read it correct when you said, tobi(obito) went against the whole world just he hold a grudge against kakashi ?

I raise veryy good points +rep but didn't kisame confirm that the long haired man and the short haired man are the same person?

And nah you read that bit wrong, I even said "but this is not the only reason" Re read "obito's reasons to turn against the shinobi world" I think that's what I called that section anyway
 

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maybe the guy with the long hair and obito are two different people.

we never saw Obito(tobi) using any genjutsu!
But we saw him using S/T !!!

and

We never saw the long haired tobi using Any S/T tech.
He cannot fool itachi and kisame, if it was obito or someone else, we would know.
He was helping itachi kill uchiha and used mHizukage as a mere pawn, means obito never kill uchihas .
He seemed to be really good at genjutsu.


And one question,
did i read it correct when you said, tobi(obito) went against the whole world just he hold a grudge against kakashi ?

Short hair version of tobi put konan under genjutsu. Also he didnt got a grudge against kakasi. Obito probably freaked out when rin died and kakashi couldnt keep his promise. And to make sure such promises will never be broken again tobi want to bring world peace with the infinite tsukuyomi
 

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Short hair version of tobi put konan under genjutsu. Also he didnt got a grudge against kakasi. Obito probably freaked out when rin died and kakashi couldnt keep his promise. And to make sure such promises will never be broken again tobi want to bring world peace with the infinite tsukuyomi

Yh that is true about him putting Konan under a genjutsu

I think there are more reasons then just rin, I have stated them in the "Obito motives to turn against the shinobi world" section
 

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I also thnk the same way.
 

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kishi is still a troll, keep this thread incase and put it back sayng your sorry when he trolls us all lol, trust me it isnt obito he wouldent leave a big plot whole, of madara knowning obito
 
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