[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

[PandaMan.]

I don't like the idea of him being obito. So many plot holes. Kishi better no f this manga up with even more holes....

 

[sistyN]

please don't be so harsh on me if you disagree.

Kakashi looks at obito all shocked.

kakashi: why are you doing this obito?.

gai: Are you really obito?.

obito: Since you all know that is me there is no reason in lying.

*flashback*

madara saves obito.

obito: Who are you and why did you save me?.

madara: I am madara uchiha.

obito: 0.0 !!!! Your suppose to be dead.

madara: I faked my death.

obito: !!!!.

madara: i need you to do something for me but in order to do it you will need zetzu to take care of your wounded right side of your body.

Madara explains his plans to obito.

obito: No i refuse to be part of your plan!!!, i will find my friends kakashi and rinn and protect them, they still think i am dead.

Madara grabs obito and teleports obito to a battle field while hiding.

madara: do you see rinn?

obito: Rin watch out!!!.

Rinn dies by an unknown shinobi and obito sees that kakashi failed to protect rinn.

obito: !!!!! K.....k...kakashi you failed to protect rin why 0.0.

madara: See obito there willl never be piece unless you finish what i couldn't finish......the moon eye plan!!!.

Obito has a angry look at his face.

obito: What do i have to do?

madara: First you need to know the history of the uchiha clan and the the leaf village.

obito: The leaf betrayed us?

madara: Yes now do you see why i need you to finish my plan for me.

obito: I will succeed with this plan and no one will stop me!!.

*flashback ends**

gai: So you are obito.

kakashi:!!!!.

Chapter 600 ends

i dont have a explanation for the rinnigan part its why i didnt put it there guys so sorry about that.​

it sux

 

[Electec]

I agree and I stated most of these thoughts before... But reading your post made me think... What is it that Oro was promised, if promised anything to help, what could Madara have giving him to make him Cooperate?

What if Madara shared some secrets about the Uchiha and promised to help Oro get a body.

Theres a very slim chance Oro could be taking Sasuke to talk to the real Madara to get answers.. Or maybe he's taking him to see some other Uchiha that could have escaped the massacre with the help of Madara.. Maybe Kagami who can be the father of Obito...

I'm thinking of crazy explanations as I write this lol

Yeah that my Opinion too! Orochimaru is deeply involved in the whole Story around Madara but the Informations are rare about his real Knowledge! I can´t wait till the Scene with Oro and Sasuke, there´s a big bomb that explodes and for sure, we´re all shocked after revealing what he really knows!!!
Kabuto stated it because he knows how to unlock the Rinnegan and about the So6P! And since Orochimaru is back now, the whole Story gets really interesting

 

[Vegeta]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Tobi is none other than Obito.....Possesed by the forbidden Ichirama Mind control Ramen jutsu!

 

[qdog]

he looks like zetsu to me

 

[bender]

Does anybody wonder how he took a spiral ball of death to the face and looks as if nothing happened

 

[Rasha29]

And maybe evan Madara MADE Obito kill Rin to activate his MS...
YES!!! It makes sense and after that Obito killed Madara (or maybe it wasn't Madara, maybe it was the elder son of the SO6P).
And there's another theory that someone just mixed his body with Obito's body.....

Yea and Tobi can warp threw time since his MS Kamui power do timespace jutsu and he did all those thing in the pass and he train with Madara and the first, help Madara fight the first and got him some golden cells to. Than he went to the future and took Sasuke & Naruto grandson eye's and cells. Than he came back to the present and took a number 2 and that how Black Zetsu was born. Than he flew to planet Jutsu, where the 6 path came from to learn the new jutsu he about to use call Bullshitsu. My fault Kishi can write forever, because you have people like this, who would eat anything up, if it make sense or don't make sense, if bad connection to story or good connection, it don't matter they are sheep.

 

[Vegeta]

Yea and Tobi can warp threw time since his MS Kamui power do timespace jutsu and he did all those thing in the pass and he train with Madara and the first, help Madara fight the first and got him some golden cells to. Than he went to the future and took Sasuke & Naruto grandson eye's and cells. Than he came back to the present and took a number 2 and that how Black Zetzu was born. Than he flew to planet Jutsu, where the 6 path came from to learn the new jutsu he about to use call Bullshitsu.

You need to start writing for Kishi, that would be a hundred times better

 

[The BarBQueER]

What if another Uchiha perfected the body stealing jutsu. What if thats the main reason why orochimaru wants sasukes body. There is probably something we dont fully understand about Orochi's motives, and they brought him back for that reason. Maybe Tobi Succeeded in what Orochi couldn't.

Or if the story is just left at Tobi being Obito....

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[Buzz Beamer4]

It was obvious when I first heard his NAME!!!!! I mean really? It's Obito, but missing an "O" and a transitioned T! Seriously! It make sence though... I was really reassured when Kakashi nd Guy joined the main battle... They are the 2 closest 2 remembering Obito, that is still alive @ least... Also the sharingans (SEEMINGLY NEVERENDING!) growing powers still only belong 2 the person who's eyes they were originally from, with sich said, that eye was either squished 2 oblivion, or he was still alive... I didn't think that Obito was really "Dead" when the rocks fell on him... Just wasn't climatic enough you know?

 

[Dubsack]

Something still ain't right how was obito as old as the 4th when he attached the leaf

 

[Geogiam]

tobi is Obito.

But I will be here the 1st one to start the next gossip

The one who knows everythings is the sage of 10 paths, he is alive.

(Lately everyone get resurrected)

 

[jermuffine]

Kishi is a genius, so I really hope he's not being drunk on this one.. :shrug: he better have some crazy ass explanation for everything. There are too many contradictions if Tobi is TRULY Obito, so I hope Kishimoto amazes us all by the end of the tide.

I can't believe it's Obito just yet. It's not conclusive; it's just suspenseful.
"OBITO??"

EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP THE "I-TOLD-YOU-SO".
Nothing is conclusive as of yet, which is the cool thing about manga!

 

[jheet]

but still its obito... we will see in the next chapter... cant wait also..

 

[disboima]

I know it is a long Reply but i want to cover all facts as arguments, so if you take you time to read to whole think, I guess it will help you all.

First i want to say that i have been reading this blogs for some years now and never felt the need to register to join the discussion until now.
I have to admit that Kishi made some small mistakes now and then, but letting Tobi JUST be Obito would be some massive mistake. And at least until now there have been no such massive ones in Naruto, so I guess it is not JUST Obito without any additional . . . Things. And by the way i don't believe in the TWO TOBI THEORY. That would be the lamest thing ever.

Let be state some arguments why Tobi being JUST Obito would be absolutely ridiculous (I will start with the strongest arguments and will close with some smaller ones):

- Tobi obviously has to have Hashiramas Cells because he has used Izanagi and uses the Rinnegan. Where should Obito have gotten this, without help

- Tobi states that he gave the Rinnegan to Nagato in the first place and this would have obviously been before OBITOS BIRTH, so either he is a big fat liar (well i lied before i give you that) or it was not OBITO but some other part of Tobi. By the way i think the Rinnegan are originally Madaras (i.e. Izunas) Eyes. This would fit because it seems logically that only SO6P and other people with both Uchiha and Senja DNA can have Rinnegan, so Nagato was no Wonder of Nature but simply got this eyes implanted somehow.

- Tobi has a massive Knowledge of so many things that happened before Obitos Birth, so I guess he can't have figured this out all by himself

- Tobi has obviously the power to grow some new Body-parts that consist of some white substance. This reminds me of Zetsus power. So something must have happened with his body. Some change, some implantation. Of course this has maybe to do with to Hashirama DNA

- Obito was a nice guy. He envied Kakashi because he loved Rin, but when he was dying he gave Kakashi his Sharingan and he was thinking of him as a Friend. Maybe he would be angry on Kakashi because Rin died. But as far as we know this happended years after Obito was crushed, so why wouldn't he have returned to Konoha by then? There is no real explanation possibility for such a change of heart.

- Many people believed he was Madara. Especially Kisame who has also seen his face. And Kisame also saw his face just a fed Months ago and was not surprissed to see the face of Obito we saw in the last chapter. So he must have seen the same face when he first met Tobi. But why should he believe him to be Madara if there is no additional explanation to his appearance that he game Kisame. Kisame was obviously not the kind of guy who believed a half-grown brat (that obito would have been back then) just to be the most powerful Uchiha of all times without any more reason. And Itachi. He also thought of Tobi as Madara. He said he was only a shade of his former self but he was immortal. So maybe there is some Madara in Tobi... this would explain it.

- Minato should have somewhat recogniced his former student when Tobi attacked the Leaf, shouldn't he. Except when Tobi would have been some completely (mind?)-changed Obito.

- It would have been to obvious, to easy to guess from the very beginning of Tobi.

- Why should Kishi reveale the whole deal in Chapter 599? There has to be something more than just Obito that gets revealed in Chapter 600.




So let me conclude with three things, that I think of as some fitting explanation for all this stuff:

- Kishi got high on some extreme hard stuff and actually it is Obito

- This is just Genjutsu to freak out Kakashi, Guy and Naruto to get advantage in the fight. And also to give all the crazy OBITO THEORY-FANS ony week of "I told you so" until they get crushed with next weeks chapter

- There is some sort of Madara- or Izuna- or Whatever- Part in Obitos Body. I know that Madara is dead. . . But so is Orochimara in some way but still there have been some parts in Kabuto and so on. . .And Kabuto said Madaras Edo Tensei was some special thing (Maybe he refered to the Hashirama Face but it was revealed that Madara hat this DNA already before his Death).
So i guess that the most logical explanation was that when Madara died he entrusted someone with his will, maybe with some part of his mind. And this part took over controll of Tobi. By the way. Madara died after Nagato was born. This can be since the first thing he says when he is summond are: "So it finally happened...Seems like that Nagato brat has really grown". So i guess Madara was somehow dying from whatever. And he hopped that Nagato, entrusted with the sharingan, would grow to get so strong with his Revival Abillity that he would bring HIM back one day. After Nagato died and saved all Konoha people he killed with this Revival jutsu, Tobi is really enraged and says something like "damn you Nagato, this was meant for me". So this also speaks for some Madara in Tobi.
So I guess the Tobi we know is some Zetsu-Modifikation of what remained of Obito's Body (Maybe still left with some surpressed Obito mind) with part of Madaras soul in him.


Feal free to respond if you agree of disagree or have some additional arguments. If i have time to read it and respond i would love to go on with the discussion.

100% agree. I was going to mention almost everything you aid until I came to the last page and saw this.

 

[peinangel]

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

Kishimoto maximum trolling

Tobi is Obito LOL

A mask guy who can control a kyuubi in a regular sharingan

A mask guy who has vast knowledge of uchiha clan,senju clan,sage of the six path,madara uchiha,izuna uchiha and hashirama senju.

A mask guy who is in Kage level after 1 and half year before kyuubi attack

A mask guy who control fourth mizukage and turn into a blood mist village

A mask guy who seems to fool kisame,itachi ,pein and konan thinking his madara because of his long hair

A mask guy who also fool minato thinking his madara too (lol wtf)

A mask guy who claims his madara when his not that make the whole world (including the kages) think he is madara and declare fourth shinobi world war

A mask guy who seems to ****ing hate the uchiha clan and kill all the uchiha members with itachi help that makes the uchiha clan nearly extinction and drove sasuke insane

****ing so many plot holes and yet his OBITO???? **** YOU KISHIMOTO

Just wait for it geeez. Trolling has been the only thing keeping us interest any manga. Manga with straight out answers without leaving the audience guessing is boring. Just wait for the next manga.

 

[Buzz Beamer4]

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

I don't want to believe the Masked Man who fought Minato is this Tobi. :B Please no. Though they had the same abilities sooo :x

I actually don't either... I mean let's go basic... The sharingan's purpose, "argo it's name" is 2 copy abilitys and jutsu... It's very likely that he saw the previous masked man and copied the abilities... It would also make sense if because Itachi and him BOTH destroied the Uchiha clan... He may have killed his best-friend during that...

 

[ObitoKarin]

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

5/5. I loved it. My bet is that the next chapter is going to be A LOT of explanation.

Oh, and by the way to anyone that absolutely insulted and bashed anyone who believed it was Obito.

Told you so

and don't go and say it isn't, because now you're just lying to yourself, he even has the marks on his right side of his face, and LOOKS exactly like he would at that age.

I am still half and half because of two reasons...
If that's Obito then masked man isn't the same masked man 16 years ago cause he was much taller and older while at that time Kakashi was supposedly 13-14 so it has to be different. But Kishi could be Mind-Trolling us again since it could just be a rein-carnation of Obito while the same Masked Man is still behind the curtain... But because of this manga ik THAT is Obito but i like priorities so ima wait till Next week till it's really confirmed and then i'll 100% agree U_U

 

[coolbull10]

Wtf. I refuse to believe that tobi is obito. Obito happens to be the first person I cancelled off the possible-tobi list

 

[Kyno]

Hey guys go here:

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Here I explain how kamui bends time, which provides an explanation as to how obito could train and become so strong over a short period of time. And I prove it, using a step by step logic system.

With this info, a couple of plot wholes can be explained, most notably the fight with minato.