[Spoilers] Confirmed: Tobi's Sharingan

[SenjuBoss]

:scorps:he prolly isnt going blind because tobi is simply a boss

 

[d3juan1]

i think its obvious why kakashi nor tobi has went blind from using the mangekyou sharingan. think about it for a second.where in the manga does it say that the eyes have to be MANGEKYOU before being transplanted to find new eternal light? with that being said i could assume that kakshi's sharingan was activated as a eternal mangekyou sharingan could i not? now some could argue that it doesn't look like a ems right? well the reason it isn't a combination of two MS is because kakashi isn't uchiha and therefor never had a MS to begin with. am i making sense here? and the same could go for tobi. i believe that is why his mangekyou hasn't been shown yet. because it could give away one of two things. one being that he is not a uchiha if his mangekyou doesn't show another MS pattern mixed with obito's or two it would tell his true identity if we get to see that second MS pattern and compare it to known MS users. thats just how my brain processed it all. i could be wrong but i don't think so.

 

[saratobi sasuke]

So after much debate about Tobi having MS, EMS, or a 3 tomoe, this chapter confirms that Tobi has Obito Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. I believe this makes his endeavors much more believable considering he controlled the Kyuubi and had a s/t ninjutsu with his eye when no one else with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could do any of these things before


I also think that Obito is Tobi as well. Tobi and Kakashis eyes is obviouly a pair of Obitos eyes. His eyes is pretty unique even inside the Uchiha clan. But as you notice it, when warping things or he himself to oblivion he doesnt use a Mangekyo Sharingan to do so, thats the mystery in that jutsu. Cause Kakashi sures tries so hard to use kamui in his god given MS. Maybe, just maybe tobi mastered the jutsu and uses only a normal sharingan to use kamui.


But the question is then how did Tobi maintain his MS for so long without going blind if he's had it for 17 years now?


Simple dude, he doesn't uses it that much, or couldn't use it at all for some reason. Like what i said earlier
he only uses 3 tomoe when warping. Remember what he said at the Summit of the Five Kages. His power now is just a shell of what it was back then/ meaning it just a portion of his power that we are seeing and is obvious that his jutsu is limited in his disposal, maybe because its about the injury he got from the past- the boulder falling thing on him in kakashi's gaiden "A boys life".

 

[girya]

Read the latest chapter just now. I think Tobi is not Obito is confirmed in this chapter.

Tobi just has obito's other sharingan. There can be 2 main reasons( either or both of them) for Tobi using a sharingan instead of rinnegan or any other sharingan he has collected until now.

1. Space time technique give him strong defense against any opponent. The fact that no one has been able to analyse his jutsu give him advantage over opponent. Luckily kakashi has the other eye or else it would require intelligence of Minato to find an opening against such an opponent.

2. This guy really has a emotional connection/ blood-connection with Obito that is why is bent on bringing about peace using force (infinite tsuko...)

Tobi looked pissed with kakashi... wonder why.. that looks like a hint for us right now.

 

[d3juan1]

So after much debate about Tobi having MS, EMS, or a 3 tomoe, this chapter confirms that Tobi has Obito Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. I believe this makes his endeavors much more believable considering he controlled the Kyuubi and had a s/t ninjutsu with his eye when no one else with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could do any of these things before


I also think that Obito is Tobi as well. Tobi and Kakashis eyes is obviouly a pair of Obitos eyes. His eyes is pretty unique even inside the Uchiha clan. But as you notice it, when warping things or he himself to oblivion he doesnt use a Mangekyo Sharingan to do so, thats the mystery in that jutsu. Cause Kakashi sures tries so hard to use kamui in his god given MS. Maybe, just maybe tobi mastered the jutsu and uses only a normal sharingan to use kamui.


But the question is then how did Tobi maintain his MS for so long without going blind if he's had it for 17 years now?


Simple dude, he doesn't uses it that much, or couldn't use it at all for some reason. Like what i said earlier
he only uses 3 tomoe when warping. Remember what he said at the Summit of the Five Kages. His power now is just a shell of what it was back then/ meaning it just a portion of his power that we are seeing and is obvious that his jutsu is limited in his disposal, maybe because its about the injury he got from the past- the boulder falling thing on him in kakashi's gaiden "A boys life".

there is a huge hole in your theory. you said he isn't going blind because he must have mastered kamui and can now use it with just a 3 tomoe sharingan right? we'll that means that he must have had to use his mangekyou in order to "master" the jutsu before he was good enough to use it with a 3 tomoe which means he would still be somewhat blind right now, which he isn't. like i said, huge hole.

 

[Wparker6804]

So after much debate about Tobi having MS, EMS, or a 3 tomoe, this chapter confirms that Tobi has Obito Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. I believe this makes his endeavors much more believable considering he controlled the Kyuubi and had a s/t ninjutsu with his eye when no one else with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could do any of these things before

But the question is then how did Tobi maintain his MS for so long without going blind if he's had it for 17 years now?

EDIT: For everyone talking about Obito's brother or family member in general, I have an opinion on that

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Even though the epicenter of Tobi's space-time ninjutsu is at his eye, it has never ben said, out in the open, that it's a Sharingan technique. This is most likely a ploy on Kishi's part to trick us all. With all of these Obito and Tobi theories, Obito being Tobi is just too obvious. That is, in no way, like Kishi.

 

[Blunt]

Dude what the **** is everyone talking about? What chapter?
Edit: Nevermind just saw it

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Even though the epicenter of Tobi's space-time ninjutsu is at his eye, it has never ben said, out in the open, that it's a Sharingan technique. This is most likely a ploy on Kishi's part to trick us all. With all of these Obito and Tobi theories, Obito being Tobi is just too obvious. That is, in no way, like Kishi.

As I've said a dozen times now, this thread is NOT a Tobi identity thread. It's about Obito Uchiha's Mangekyo Sharingan, which is currently being used by Tobi, and how Tobi's been using it for so long

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

not surprized that this thread is so long..but i think obito/kagame/shishu are related in some way besides having the uchiha name....things are about to some to light..just be patient

 

[saratobi sasuke]

there is a huge hole in your theory. you said he isn't going blind because he must have mastered kamui and can now use it with just a 3 tomoe sharingan right? we'll that means that he must have had to use his mangekyou in order to "master" the jutsu before he was good enough to use it with a 3 tomoe which means he would still be somewhat blind right now, which he isn't. like i said, huge hole.

Dude this is Uchiha that we are talking about not some no class clan in the naruto world. They dont need much repetition or training to master a jutsu for your info they can adapt easily, and can copy. You clearly understatement the Uchiha's blood line limit. Repetition you say? Even kakashi can copy a jutsu just by looking at his opponent hand seals movements instantaneously. How much more an uchiha dojutsu user that is in a pure lineage of the eye and worth thy to use a sharingan. Before saying there's a whole in my statement review your manga first dude. Just saying.:shrug:

 

[pmj]

The fact that Kishi went out of his way to show that Kakashi's technique teleports items into the same dimension that Tobi's moves through using his technique shows that possibly the eyes are related. It may not be Obito=Tobi but there is a very strong possibility its Obito's eye. Kurama knows who this person is (see Fourth Hokages Death Match), which aids in why it might not be Obito.

 

[SantikA]

Would it be possible that Tobi uses the same method that Danzo used? Implant Hashirama's DNA somewhere in a part of his body and put Obito's MS on it. He did say he has Hashirama's DNA when he used Izanagi against Konan. Perhaps it's in his chest? The only parts of his we have seen damaged are his hands (yondaime & naruto's rasengan), back (yondaime), and half his face (konan). So when Tobi performs his S/T jutsu, he uses Obito's MS second eye technique. It's just not in his eye socket, that's why we haven't seen it.

The 3 tomoe sharingan he has in his right eye is probably for a sacrifice in case he needs to used izanagi in addition to its ability to read chakra and predict movements. However, in his fight against Konan, after he performed Izanagi, it was his left eye that lost its sight. But his left eye now is a Rinnegan, perhaps izanagi won't take a more advanced eye for its sacrifice?

I believe the Hashirama DNA would be the reason as to why Obito's second MS hasn't lost it's life much. And since Tobi doesn't use it for seeing then it won't has effect on his eyesight (Before Rinnegan, Tobi used 2 3-tomoe sharingan during his fight against Konan).

I think Kakashi's having a vision problem also, that's why he knew about Itachi's eyesight problem. But Kakashi is not yet in Itachi's stage as it hasn't been a very long time since he awakened his MS (during the time skip from naruto to Shipuuden) until now. Still wondering though on how he was able to awaken his / Obito's MS.

 

[ninja nik]

So after much debate about Tobi having MS, EMS, or a 3 tomoe, this chapter confirms that Tobi has Obito Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. I believe this makes his endeavors much more believable considering he controlled the Kyuubi and had a s/t ninjutsu with his eye when no one else with a 3 tomoe Sharingan could do any of these things before

But the question is then how did Tobi maintain his MS for so long without going blind if he's had it for 17 years now?

EDIT: For everyone talking about Obito's brother or family member in general, I have an opinion on that

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EDIT #2: I also have a theory about Tobi having MS

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is this still going on? madara having obito's sharingan?
cmon it cant be obito's ms.....
kishi's gonna show his plot soon....

 

[Rue]

Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan

Yeah I've read it, it's confirmed that Tobi uses only one jutsu, it wasn't even confirmed that Kamui is the same thing. You clearly said "confirmed", it is not.
The point is I saw him suck up Konan's paper bombs with his regular sharingan, perhaps he just has that ability... He just has it...

Don't quote me but, he used izangi that's why he had an empty eye socket to fill in with Nagato's Rinnegan.

 

[Dust realese]

guys its really simple zetsu or tobi found a near dead obito and stole his sharingan but tobi is not obito ,,,

 

[d3juan1]

Dude this is Uchiha that we are talking about not some no class clan in the naruto world. They dont need much repetition or training to master a jutsu for your info they can adapt easily, and can copy. You clearly understatement the Uchiha's blood line limit. Repetition you say? Even kakashi can copy a jutsu just by looking at his opponent hand seals movements instantaneously. How much more an uchiha dojutsu user that is in a pure lineage of the eye and worth thy to use a sharingan. Before saying there's a whole in my statement review your manga first dude. Just saying.:shrug:

no like i said huge hole. if a MS technique can be mastered to the point where you can use it with just a 3 tomoe then using your same logic itachi should have been able to use all of his MS techniques with basic 3 tomoes as well. he was the best and brightest of his time with the uchiha blood line limit of his time was he not? so why did he go blind huh? exactly. you review your manga and stop getting butt hurt. now im just saying. U_U

 

[JKakano]

Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan

Confirmed? When did Tobi become Obito's best friend? Kakashi is the only one who have MS because of Obito's death, nothing else. Tobi is smart enough to know that MS is a curse, not a gift

Yes either kisi trolled with us for not showing MS cos if he does then we would have know who is he or tobi is wise enough to not use it cos of risks.

 

[Honord Sage]

Kakashi being so close to Tobi, I would say that Kakashi Sharigan could be using Tobi's chakra,thus leaving Kakashi chakra intact.

 

[icewarya]

Kakashi being so close to Tobi, I would say that Kakashi Sharigan could be using Tobi's chakra,thus leaving Kakashi chakra intact.

how the hell one can use other's chakra i have never read it like dat in the manga...

 

[Honord Sage]

how the hell one can use other's chakra i have never read it like dat in the manga...

If Tobi is Obito,think of it as two computers sharing the same internet connection and house current for power.