Lol people will deny to no end. The moment Kishi decided to put Kakashi there, I knew Obito was going to be involved in this somehow. And as soon as it's "confirmed", this will hush all those people who were saying, "You idiots, his eye/body was crushed."
[Spoilers] Confirmed: Tobi's Sharingan
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ITACHIUCHIA101
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it is obito's eye if you haven't read the newest chapter than stfu saying it isnt his eye because it is because kakashi and tobi share a dimension and the only way that can be possible is if they are of the same pair and tobi says he got his sharingan that day in the great ninja war at the bridge or some sh** so it is obviously obito's eye -.-
greenwriter
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I would like to point out that while Tobi's jutsu may appear to be MS level, this isn't necessarily true. Take a look at Shisui and Itachi. To this day, it has never been confirmed whether or not Shisui had MS as it has always been 'clear' that Itachi killed him in order to obtain his own MS. That's not really debateable. However we do know that Shisui's eyes had a special ability that most Uchiha did not possess which is why his eye technique was so crucial to both Itachi and Danzo. Now as for Itachi himself, he sparingly used his MS to battle, both because he knew the dangers of losing his eyesight and his pacifistic beliefs. Yet Tsukuyomi is arguably his most used techinque-almost every time I have seen Itachi use it he has retained his 3 tomoi Sharingan...granted I haven't read/watched the original or the beginning of Shippuden in quite some time, but if memory serves it was a technique he didn't require the use of MS. MS wasn't introduced until much later, and yet Itachi trapped Kakashi in Tsukuyomi back in the original Naruto. So perhaps a select few of the strongest of Uchiha have special capabilities without the use of MS? This would possibly explain why Tobi is never seen exhibiting a MS to use his jutsu-since Kakashi isn't an Uchiha his Kamui may depend on the MS to be used; since he isn't of the proper blood we have never seen Kakashi display any other MS powers other than heightened perception and the Kamui, which means these abilities are probably out of range for him. I, along with many others, believe that Tobi is a relative of Obito, most likely a brother, who bears a grudge against Kakashi for leaving Obito to die and possessing his brothers Sharingan. When I read chapter 597 I spent the entire time silently screaming at the screen when, for just a moment there, I thought it was about to be revealed that he was in fact Obito. I maintain the stance that even if somehow Obito had managed to survive (even with the help of Zetsu), mastered his Sharingan to such a level despite his previous ineptitude, and aged beyond his years both in appearance and power in order to match himself with the 4th AND control Kurama, he wouldn't bear such a distinct grudge against the Leaf and in extension Kakashi as he has appeared to within the last few chapters. They may have once been rivals, but there at the end it's obvious they became friends-Obito (I imagine this includes ANY Uchiha) would never have given up his sacred Sharingan to anyone he felt didn't deserve it or that he couldn't trust. He knew he was dying and saw Kakashi needed his help. If Obito really felt that way I'm sure he would have just said 'Take Rin and **** off'. Obito pushed them out of the way of the falling rocks, it's not like Kakashi pulled him back with the intention of killing him or something. Plus there's the fact that kakashi has spent almost everyday at Obito's grave in respect for his friend-if I had miraculously survived and saw that someone like that had devoted their time to me in such a way, I don't think I could ever be a douche and put the world under infinite genjutsu. Of course this is all just speculation and in the long run Kishi could take an unexpected turn which none of us predicted and we're all left in the dirt with our jaws hanging off the hinges. But I'm hoping this may have converted a few of you/added to the discussion-thanks :shrug:
Bigfoot34501
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-Divide longer posts up into smaller paragraphs, it makes it easier to read
-Shisui did have MS in both of his eyes
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DeathByHugs
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Maybe his eyesite hasn't faded because, like Kakashi, he could be a non-uchiha. Maybe he is a rebelling Senju. Would suck though.
Bigfoot34501
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The Foolsih Newbs need to keep in their fanboy heads that: Tobi has never been confirmed or seen using MS.....SO STOP saying that bull. 2nd this last chapter was open-ended! English class taught you how stories are written, and the different writing devices used in story telling. Kishi is throwing everyone off every which way on PURPOSE! ALSO REMEMBER Tobi is a Uchiha defender you know, the part where he says "Where you got to be called the hero with the Sharingan" is used to throw you off to think it is maybe Obito orrr and upset Uchiha that hold the "Curse of Hatred" with the clan, he can still easily be an Uchiha avenger. PLUS he collects so many sharingan that he now has in his possesion. How hard could it be to break some rock up in a cave and retrieve the eye for himself, just like he almost died to get the rinnengan from Nagato right? Just like how when Danzo was about to die he wanted to take Shisui's eye...Right?? So seriously open your minds up and stop with the SUPER DUPER FARTFETCHED stories, it's ok to make theories, but when you start speaking un true statements it is no longer a theory, just a useless opinion. Just look & watch & collect then asses.
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6PathsofKami
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Its obvious now that tobi has MS coz kamui and tobi s/t dimensions are linked and we know kakashi needs MS for kamui so tobi should need it too and he pretty much says its obitos eyes aswell in chapter 597.
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Bigfoot34501
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And since Tobi has Obito's eye, can control the Kyuubi, use ninjustu with his eye, and send things to the same dimension Kamui is connected to, this should basically confirm that Tobi has MS
yetanotheruser
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I think it doesn't matter whose eye Tobi has, but he has perfect mastery over Sharingan in general.
this post is so far fetched it seems troll worthy. tobi's eyes were the 3 tome sharingan when he controlled the biju. even sasuke only had the 3 tome when he entered naruto's mind and suppressed the biju when they met up. so let's kill the he had MS talk concerning the biju. He has never used anything besides the 3 tome sharingan when using his s/t tech which can simply be a jutsu.
Minato has s/t techs and for all we know there could simply be one place in which all s/t travel. or better yet perhaps obitos MS crosses paths with anyones s/t techs due to it's power. keep in mind obitos eyes can only send things away and not bring them back. tobi can go and come back. so it's obvious the attacks are different. that's another reason why tobi is not using obito's eye.
keep in mind zetsu may play a role in tobi's tech also, both tobi and zetsu have hinted on that here and there through out past chapters. either way this thread is troll worthy and lacks facts about the manga.
Minato has s/t techs and for all we know there could simply be one place in which all s/t travel. or better yet perhaps obitos MS crosses paths with anyones s/t techs due to it's power. keep in mind obitos eyes can only send things away and not bring them back. tobi can go and come back. so it's obvious the attacks are different. that's another reason why tobi is not using obito's eye.
keep in mind zetsu may play a role in tobi's tech also, both tobi and zetsu have hinted on that here and there through out past chapters. either way this thread is troll worthy and lacks facts about the manga.
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orange hokage
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Guys why is it that none of u is saying that tobi is obito.saying that he got the sharingan at kanabi bridge doesnt really mean he stole it. U know he already lied about him being madara. 'i got it from the kanabi bridge' may mean 'i unlocked the powers of the sharingan at kanabi bridge'
th1s1guysays
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Re: Confirmed: Tobi has Mangekyō Sharingan
If Tobi did unlock MS then that means kakashi was able too also.
Because if it is obito, then that means their eyes are linked. Which IS confirmed. He states they use the same dimension. It also confirms that its specifically their dimension thats shared. The past war at the bridge, there was only ONE UCHIHA THERE! Obito unlocked his sharingan there!
If Tobi did unlock MS then that means kakashi was able too also.
Bigfoot34501
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None of us are saying that because that's not what this thread is about and it's against the rules. This thread is about Tobi is using Obito Uchiha's Mangekyo Sharingan, and how he is keeping its light for so long
If you want to make a thread about Tobi's identity, do it in the sticky thread