Who is smarter? Sasuke or Shikamaru?

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Regarding Kinkaku, He did succeed. Didn't you understand that he only needed to stop him for a moment for Ino? He just needed him to stay still for a second.
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Not really succeeding when he just moved like nothing happened whatsoever, that's not a matter of intelligence at all.

As for tobi, Why was it stupid that he binded him using his shadow? he was saved by the gedo, he didn't ignore him. Just to refresh your memory, take a look at what tobi said.
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Lol people associating that with intelligence, but yeah his shadow attach sure helped him out when he was about to get crushed by GM
As for part 1, you do remember he was going against nine oto ninjas trained specifically for this battle. And he did succeed with his mission even though he had his chakra drained from his previous fight with Temari, right? I think he did the best thing possible in that situation. If you don't think so, then what do you think sasuke would've done? he would've been killed on the spot if it weren't for orochimaru's orders!
Sasuke would have done something that someone without 200 IQ can't possibly come up with, since according to everyone baselessly if Shika has 200 IQ everyone else has much much higher.

Yeah, having a plan to hold off the Oto ninja and getting killed by them wbhich is basic team battle strategy, toooottallly more impressive than some of the stuff Sasuke has done like have Deidara fall right into his trap by using hand signs and deducing how to use lightning release vs his earth release to gain info on all of hsi bombs, all that shit.
 

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Not really succeeding when he just moved like nothing happened whatsoever, that's not a matter of intelligence at all.

Lol people associating that with intelligence, but yeah his shadow attach sure helped him out when he was about to get crushed by GM
Sasuke would have done something that someone without 200 IQ can't possibly come up with, since according to everyone baselessly if Shika has 200 IQ everyone else has much much higher.

Yeah, having a plan to hold off the Oto ninja and getting killed by them wbhich is basic team battle strategy, toooottallly more impressive than some of the stuff Sasuke has done like have Deidara fall right into his trap by using hand signs and deducing how to use lightning release vs his earth release to gain info on all of hsi bombs, all that shit.
I don't think you understand what you read :shrug:
Take a couple of minutes, read the page twice, thrice, then you might comprehend what the plan was when sealing Kinkaku. U_U

If Tobi didn't mean to compliment Shikamaru's intelligence when he said "it's regrettable to have you as an opponent", then can u tell me what he meant? And btw, in all the DB shikamaru got 5's in intelligence. Why is that? because his intelligence is immeasurable. look at what Sasuke had at the time. Just 2!! Then again, you're comparing Shikamaru part 1 with Sasuke part 2 cos you couldn't find anything that's close to being called smart that's been done by Sasuke :shrug:

You're being illogical when comparing their intelligence cos Sauske would never, ever reach Shikamaru's level of intelligence. He is Stronger than Shikamaru, but definitely NOT smarter.
 

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I don't think you understand what you read :shrug:
Take a couple of minutes, read the page twice, thrice, then you might comprehend what the plan was when sealing Kinkaku. U_U

If Tobi didn't mean to compliment Shikamaru's intelligence when he said "it's regrettable to have you as an opponent", then can u tell me what he meant? And btw, in all the DB shikamaru got 5's in intelligence. Why is that? because his intelligence is immeasurable. look at what Sasuke had at the time. Just 2!! Then again, you're comparing Shikamaru part 1 with Sasuke part 2 cos you couldn't find anything that's close to being called smart that's been done by Sasuke :shrug:

You're being illogical when comparing their intelligence cos Sauske would never, ever reach Shikamaru's level of intelligence. He is Stronger than Shikamaru, but definitely NOT smarter.
I have, but the mindless Shikamaru supporters ignore it. Actually, I want you to re-read any pages of Shikamaru's strategies and actually pay attention to them because they're highly exaggerated and mots of the manga intelligence feats shit on his.

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Uhh, not sure where you're going with this considering Shikamaru supporters are like LOL FAPFAPFAP TOBI THINKS SHEKUS SMURRTHER THEN HEIM when that's hardly the case
 

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Total Troll thread. And this is why even though I like Sasuke, I hate Sasuke fans. They can't accept his inferiority in certain areas. He is a tiny flea on the butt of Shikamaru when it comes to intelligence and cunning.

One guy has an OVER 200 I.Q.!!!!
One guy had a maxed out 5 in intelligence in the databook when he was 12.
One guy has had KAKASHI fanboy his intelligence since he was 13.
One guy had TOBI call him a worthy opponent intellectually.
One guy has Kishimoto always put over how smart he is.
One guy's whole fighting style is based on strategy and always out-thinking his opponents.
One guy was not born with a haxringan or was given other Mary Sue abilities and is forced to fight with his brain.
One guy acted like a man and got his revenge handled in a few days. Okay, I just had to throw that in.

The other guy had a 3.5 in intelligence/cunning in the last databook. While considered smart, he has never been portrayed as having god-like intelligence like Shikamaru and is blessed with a sharingan. Which is basically a deus ex machina in this manga.

Do you really need to have Kishimoto come over to your house and explain why this is a stupid question? And why the guy with the over 200 I.Q. is the smartest kid in the manga and Sasuke isn't even close?

God I hate fanboys. And I am always creeped out by male Sasuke fans that hardcore defend him. I can understand the appeal with girls. But when a guy is so into Sasuke, to the point of it being a boy crush, it weirds me out.
 
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Total Troll thread. And this is why even though I like Sasuke, I hate Sasuke fans. They can't accept his inferiority in certain areas. He is a tiny flea on the butt of Shikamaru when it comes to intelligence and cunning.
I agree that some Sasuke fans are annoying but Sasuke is not a flea on the butt compared to Shikamaru in anyway whatsoever.
One guy has an OVER 200 I.Q.!!!!
That is impossible. Kishi writes his character and I highly doubt Kishi himself has an I.Q. that high. Shikamaru's I.Q. will be inferior to Kishi's so saying his I.Q. is over 200 is false hype.
One guy had a maxed out 5 in intelligence in the databook when he was 12.
Well since Shikamaru's intelligence is really high compared to his other attributes, it shouldn't take a genius to figure out why it is that high. Shika's intelligence were compared to other kids his age and it was deserving of a 5 because of his young age and inexperience. People such as Kakashi, Shikaku, Itachi and Minato have a higher intelligence because they are much more experienced but in time, Shikamaru will eventually surpass them.
One guy has had KAKASHI fanboy his intelligence since he was 13.
Pretty sure that Kakashi fanboyed Sakura's intelligence too. He also complimented Naruto and Sasuke on different times and some of their plans too.
One guy had TOBI call him a worthy opponent intellectually.
So was Minato, Itachi and Kakashi.
One guy has Kishimoto always put over how smart he is.
Maybe because Kishimoto likes his character a lot. He even says if Kishi himself was a girl, he'd go out with Shikamaru.
One guy's whole fighting style is based on strategy and always out-thinking his opponents.
Well Shikamaru is not very versatile and that is pretty much all he can do. His fighting style revolves around manipulating shadows and it requires you to set up traps to bring the enemy closer to your shadows. Also just because Sasuke craps on Shika's opponents without having to use his brain or sharingan to its fullest potential doesn't mean Sasuke is dumber. This is pretty bad logic because Sasuke developed his skills to such an extent where he doesn't have to outsmart his opponents when he can just blitz, paralyse or overpower them with ease.
One guy was not born with a haxringan or was given other Mary Sue abilities and is forced to fight with his brain.
Hey Sasuke worked hard to improve his abilities to control the sharingan. Sasuke also worked hard to master all sorts of ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu all by himself or with some help. All Shikamaru uses are shadows and his brain so obviously Shikamaru is forced to fight with his brain because he lacks the combat prowess Sasuke has.
One guy acted like a man and got his revenge handled in a few days. Okay, I just had to throw that in.
No, Shikamaru thought that he could beat both Kakuzu and Hidan at the same time with Ino and Choji's help. If Kakashi hadn't shown up and offered to be their team leader, Shikamaru and his squad would have been easily killed. How is going on a mission without authorization and without a powerful team leader smart in any way especially against a high level Akatsuki opponent of which you have no knowledge of (Kakuzu)?

Also it took a while for Sasuke to get his revenge because he had to fight an opponent far superior to the opponent Shikamaru fought. People always look at Shikamaru's battle with Hidan and think his intelligence is unstoppable because he outsmarted Hidan which is clearly false because Hidan's intelligence rivals that of Kiba and Choji so I can see a lot people outsmarting Hidan not just Shikamaru. Sasuke outsmarted smarter characters such as Deidara and Danzo while the smartest person Shikamaru outsmarted was Temari.
The other guy had a 3.5 in intelligence/cunning in the last databook. While considered smart, he has never been portrayed as having god-like intelligence like Shikamaru and is blessed with a sharingan. Which is basically a deus ex machina in this manga.
Well Sasuke is put against higher standards because he is one of the main characters and because he is the last remaining Uchiha. They need to hone their skills to a much higher extent than average shinobi. Also Shikamaru is indeed smarter than Sasuke but neither has god-like intelligence and the gap isn't that big.
Do you really need to have Kishimoto come over to your house and explain why this is a stupid question? And why the guy with the over 200 I.Q. is the smartest kid in the manga and Sasuke isn't even close?
I already talked about the over 200 I.Q. false hype but we don't even know Sasuke's I.Q. But yeah the question on who is smarter should be obvious.
God I hate fanboys. And I am always creeped out by male Sasuke fans that hardcore defend him. I can understand the appeal with girls. But when a guy is so into Sasuke, to the point of it being a boy crush, it weirds me out.
Lol but those are just trolls with alts so don't get too upset.
 

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Not really succeeding when he just moved like nothing happened whatsoever, that's not a matter of intelligence at all.

Lol people associating that with intelligence, but yeah his shadow attach sure helped him out when he was about to get crushed by GM
Sasuke would have done something that someone without 200 IQ can't possibly come up with, since according to everyone baselessly if Shika has 200 IQ everyone else has much much higher.

Yeah, having a plan to hold off the Oto ninja and getting killed by them wbhich is basic team battle strategy, toooottallly more impressive than some of the stuff Sasuke has done like have Deidara fall right into his trap by using hand signs and deducing how to use lightning release vs his earth release to gain info on all of hsi bombs, all that shit.

You compare a fight at 12 years with a fight at 16... Yeah, smart move, what can I say?
 

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You compare a fight at 12 years with a fight at 16... Yeah, smart move, what can I say?
Well Joki gave us examples of both part 1 and part 2. Also Shikamaru was said to be a genius at a young age so him comparing part 1 Shikamaru to other characters is okay because even part 1 Shikamaru was extremely intelligent.
 

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Obviously shikamaru. Sasuke having susanoo and amaterasu doesn't make him *smarter* than shikamaru. Shikamaru is probably the smartest character in the series besides his dad and maybe Kakashi.
 
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