The Hyuga Clan predated Rikidou Sennin

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The Hyuga clan predated The Sage Of 6 paths, and PROOF of that is Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga woman which is the reason why it was mentioned that the Uchihas are decendants of the Hyuga clan, because the first Uchiha the Elder brother was brought into the Ninja world by a hyuga woman.

Were the evidence? Saying it dose not make it so,were is your evidence?
 
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a theory thats not true, since it wasnt mentioned in the series that the origins of the senju lie with Rikidou's NORMAL wife. only the hyugas were mentioned as the Uchiha's creation into the ninja world. and the theory of The Sage Of 6 Paths MAKING kids WITHOUT a Woman is inpossible and NEVER HAPPENED.

Idk about his wife but I have never seen REAL proof in text/images of who sage's wife was(maybe show me some chapter of where wife was mentioned?) and if his creation Jutsu could turn dreams into a reallity, why couldn't he have dreamt of sons? If the Jutsu is as powerful as people say then why not?
 

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Well if Ridoku's wife was a hyuga wont that mean the younger son too is a descendant of hyuga clan?

Also marrying outside the clan brings no shame or Mito wont have married Hashi and forged an alliance.
 
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Were the evidence? Saying it dose not make it so,were is your evidence?

The so called EVIDENCE is gathering pieces of the puzzle and pieceing it together into the Evidence that wasnt revealed YET, WHAT? you are looking for Direct evidence in Manga chapters that explains exactly what im talking about? NO Naruto is based ENTIRLY on METAPHORES reffering to things that werent REVEALED yet but to come, and some things on Literatcey, and you havent figured that out yet im sorry, but read my post on the accumulated EVIDENCE and i hope you will understand:)

Idk about his wife but I have never seen REAL proof in text/images of who sage's wife was(maybe show me some chapter of where wife was mentioned?) and if his creation Jutsu could turn dreams into a reallity, why couldn't he have dreamt of sons? If the Jutsu is as powerful as people say then why not?
THE REAL PROOF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR is Literacy something explains exactly what a statement or theory brought up with visuals to confirm it,, im sorry but The Naruto universe is surrounded by Metaphores, such as alot of hints reffering to who TOBI might be but NOT actually saying it directly, It dosent explain Rikidou's wife in any chapter, only that The Hyugas were the only ones mentioned as the Uchihas creation into the shinobi world, thus reffering to Rikidou sennin's wife stating that she was a hyuga without putting it in point blank understanding. And the justu that makes dreams come true did NOT mean makes any image in your Imagination come true, the ultimate DREAM that the world in Naruto wanted was PEACE, and what did Rikidou Sennin bring by Sealing the 10 Tailed Juubi's body inside the Gedo statue along with creating the Moon? PEACE that was the dream that came true with the Justu he used, Rikidou Brought PEACE in HIS time, DREAMS CAME TRUE:)

dont u guys see? rikudou married a byakugan woman, Naruto will marry Hinata. it makes perfect sense

So you understand? Good:)

Well if Ridoku's wife was a hyuga wont that mean the younger son too is a descendant of hyuga clan?

Also marrying outside the clan brings no shame or Mito wont have married Hashi and forged an alliance.

Exactly what i was saying in my privious post:)
 
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THE REAL PROOF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR is Literacy something explains exactly what a statement or theory brought up, im sorry but The Naruto universe is surrounded by Metaphores, such as alot of hints reffering to who TOBI might be but NOT actually saying it directly, It dosent explain Rikidou's wife in any chapter, only that The Hyugas were the only ones mentioned as the Uchihas creation into the shinobi world, that is reffering to Rikidou sennin's wife stating that she was a hyuga without putting it in point blank understanding.

If you type in google " sage of sixth path two sons" you'll see that the eldest brother did not have sharingan, but rinnagan, but apparently more spiral. Meaning with each generation that followed the rinnahan became weaker/ranked down, why is why only the strongest of uchiha have been able to get close to rinnagan, only one was madara. If the byakugan female had any role in new eyes then can't there be any other special eyes? I'm pretty sure an uchiha has got it

THE REAL PROOF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR is Literacy something explains exactly what a statement or theory brought up, im sorry but The Naruto universe is surrounded by Metaphores, such as alot of hints reffering to who TOBI might be but NOT actually saying it directly, It dosent explain Rikidou's wife in any chapter, only that The Hyugas were the only ones mentioned as the Uchihas creation into the shinobi world, that is reffering to Rikidou sennin's wife stating that she was a hyuga without putting it in point blank understanding.

If you type in google " sage of sixth path two sons" you'll see that the eldest brother did not have sharingan, but rinnagan, but apparently more spiral. Meaning with each generation that followed the rinnagan became weaker/ranked down, which is why only the strongest of uchiha have been able to get close to rinnagan, only one was madara. If the byakugan female had any role in new eyes then can't there be any other special eyes? I'm pretty sure an uchiha has got it on with some byakugan chick, and so far no other eyes. It seems to be one of the two not a fusion of both parents eyes.
 
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If you type in google " sage of sixth path two sons" you'll see that the eldest brother did not have sharingan, but rinnagan, but apparently more spiral. Meaning with each generation that followed the rinnagan became weaker/ranked down, which is why only the strongest of uchiha have been able to get close to rinnagan, only one was madara. If the byakugan female had any role in new eyes then can't there be any other special eyes? I'm pretty sure an uchiha has got it on with some byakugan chick, and so far no other eyes. It seems to be one of the two not a fusion of both parents eyes.

The Elder Son had the Juubi's sharingan, combined with Rikidou's Rinnegan which created the SPIRALS behind the sharingan tomoes. and yes there would be 1 more special eye, but the reason the ELDER and YOUNGER BROTHER of the SENJU and UCHIHA DIDNT inherit The Byakugan, is like i said in one of my previous post, Both Brothers took after the FATHER's Bloodline NOT the mother's Bloodline, only the mother's characteristics and physical traits, which is the reason why No Senjus and NO Uchihas of the current Generation can achieve the Byakugan on their own. And the Juubi was sealed within Rikidou at the time he delievered his seed to the Hyuga woman, thus making it where the elder son took after his father's Spiritual energy and Juubi's corrupted spiritual energy which caused the Juubi's sharingan to manifest on Elder brother's physical frame, both power appearence and intentions wise. and once a bijuu is sealed within a person, thats becomes etched in their soul untill the seal is broken or released and once that happens such a Separation will cause severe Damage on the user's Chakra A.K.A Spiritual Energy, and a near mortal wound to the physical vessel it was sealed in, pretty much, once released or Broken the host dies as we have already seen both Manga and Anime, that explains how the Juubi's Eye Power and intentions Manifested on Elder brother.

How can u be a 100% positive kishi never wrote it. Yes I agree that the hyuga clan pre dated so6p. But u cant say that the wife was a hyuga she could have been from a clan with a similar eye but different trait. Why would a hyuga women have a baby with a non hyuga person when that would bring shame to the clan. Maybe so6p was born with does eyes which he inherited from his parents who might be from the hyuga clan but we jux wont know.

If that were the CASE then Kakashi would have NEVER mentioned the Uchihas origins lie with the Hyuga but instead something Different. and no it wouldnt bring great shame to the clan thats the Hyuga's belief not a fact, Letting Rikidou Sennin Make a baby with a Hyuga should have brought bring great Glory to the clan because of that, he and the female Hyuga had the most powerful children of that time.
 
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its a strech , the only reason i say no is because there techs are not as powerful as the sharigon

Actually The Byakugan first form is more Powerful Then The Full 3 tomoe Sharingan, i can gives some FACTS on why if you wish?

Where in the manga does it say that Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga?

It didnt, it was a METAPHORE.

dont u guys see? rikudou married a byakugan woman, Naruto will marry Hinata. it makes perfect sense

Now you see why Misashi Kishimoto kept quiet Conserning Rikidou Sennin's Wife, because once its known at point Blank Understanding that Rikidou Sennin's Wife was a Hyuga, then every fan or Big Fan of Naruto will go to the conclusion that Hinata will mary Naruto before it happens, and would want the Naruto&Sakura moments to stop, knowing its pointless since they know who Naruto will spend the rest of his life with, Killing off all the Saku&Naru fans of the series, forcing them into Fan fiction, since Naruto is the Next Sage Of The Six Paths Hinata will be his wife.
 
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Idk about his wife but I have never seen REAL proof in text/images of who sage's wife was(maybe show me some chapter of where wife was mentioned?) and if his creation Jutsu could turn dreams into a reallity, why couldn't he have dreamt of sons? If the Jutsu is as powerful as people say then why not?

I agree, this would be a great thread and bring a lot of credit to the Hyuuga and the byakugan if it was true, but we need proof. Not speculation.

Please provide proof because i have never seen anything about rikodu wife's or she being a hyuuga. does kishi say it in an inteview that i should watch haha?

I think you all are idiots. Its the middle of the night and you guys are arguing over some stupid anime show. So my advice to you ******s is... 1.) Get a ****ing life. 2.) Find a girl. 3.) Get laid for crying out load!

coming from the guy who took the time out of his day to post about this and read everyone's post about it to get annoyed about it haha. I think you should take some of your own advice.
 
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kakashi did say the rinnegan was a mutation and the uchiha clan came from the elder son who inherited the eyes. the rinnegan could have mutated either from a byakugan or normal eyes
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Kakashi also says that Rikudo is a myth but he isnt
 

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Well did anyone noticed Mito Uzumaki's eyes? Its looked kinda like a byakugan.
 

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Yes, and the hyugas came from an alien planet called vegeta because the juubi was destroying it

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its a strech , the only reason i say no is because there techs are not as powerful as the sharigon

Ok, Mutation is forward moving. It's the theory of Natural selection. Traits get stronger in later generations. So, your point about strength should actually be reversed. If Sharingan comes after Byakugan, then Sharingan is expected to be strogner than Byakugan.

I didn't say they were descendents of the uchiha. I said the uchiha could be descendents of the hyuuga that were descedents of the elder brother. Both clans have eye techniques that allow them to see chakra, though they have other different abilities. It could be that the hyuugas predated them, but had a mutation that turned into the sharingan.

This is more likely. Since I do not know the exact era of Rikudou Sennin (I am guessing it should be around 500 BC considering the fact that the idea was inspired from Buddhist writings) and the time of the Hyuugas so no further comments there. Remember, the Frog, the Snake and the Slug all came from the same ancestors. I am certain all doujutsu also had a common origin, we just need to figure out who the dinosaur is (it's Hyuuga in my opinion).

The wife story is plausible but need not be true...

tell me what you think... I'm kinda bad with words... :shy:
 

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The Hyuga clan predated The Sage Of 6 paths, and PROOF of that is Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga woman which is the reason why it was mentioned that the Uchihas are decendants of the Hyuga clan, because the first Uchiha the Elder brother was brought into the Ninja world by a hyuga woman.
Could be.
Would make sense anyway.
dont u guys see? rikudou married a byakugan woman, Naruto will marry Hinata. it makes perfect sense
Like this idea.<3
 
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I agree, this would be a great thread and bring a lot of credit to the Hyuuga and the byakugan if it was true, but we need proof. Not speculation.

Please provide proof because i have never seen anything about rikodu wife's or she being a hyuuga. does kishi say it in an inteview that i should watch haha?

Read all my previous Post, thats NOT SPECULATION, i pieced together the puzzle and have uncovered what was in the past which is evidence, Rikidou Sennin's Wife was a HYUGA, but it wasnt directly explained in chapters nor said, what Kakashi mentioned about the Uchihas origins lie with the Hyuga was a METAPHORE reffering to something previously without speaking in Literacy, what you are looking for is VISUAL literate proof at point blank understanding, im sorry but naruto is NOT based around the evidence you are looking for, its based around METAPHORES, thats what Kishimoto does best, leaving puzzles for us to figure out lasting months or perhaps a year, what i found out is a FACT yet to be REVEALED. if everyone knew Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga then EVERY fan would go to the conclusion that Hinata will Marry Naruto since Naruto is the next Sage Of The Six Paths, this is why Kishimoto is keeping quiet on that subject, and will not answer at interviews, not even in code.

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Ok, Mutation is forward moving. It's the theory of Natural selection. Traits get stronger in later generations. So, your point about strength should actually be reversed. If Sharingan comes after Byakugan, then Sharingan is expected to be strogner than Byakugan.



This is more likely. Since I do not know the exact era of Rikudou Sennin (I am guessing it should be around 500 BC considering the fact that the idea was inspired from Buddhist writings) and the time of the Hyuugas so no further comments there. Remember, the Frog, the Snake and the Slug all came from the same ancestors. I am certain all doujutsu also had a common origin, we just need to figure out who the dinosaur is (it's Hyuuga in my opinion).

The wife story is plausible but need not be true...

tell me what you think... I'm kinda bad with words... :shy:
the Sharingan would NOT be stronger then the Byakugan and this is why, The Byakugan's first Form uses up the smallist amounts of Chakra in the most simple of techniques that can be used to capture or kill a target such as Gentle Fist 28 to 64 to 128 chakra strikes can kill a enemy with ease That is depending on the user's skill, or 8 trigrams the defensive move that deflects every projectile shot at the user while the technique is in effect, and the Byakugan's sensory surpasses all other Doujustus,making you more aware of the environment surrounding you, and the byakugan gives the user much more consontration on a target and his surroundings making it less likely for a hyuga to fall for a trap, and this is only the first form of the byakugan, its full power has yet to be seen, and the Sharingan on the other hand is a Doujustu that Specializes in Ninjustu and Genjustu, and can copy Ninjustu and Genjustu along with recording the enemy's moves into the user for later usage and coming up with a counter attack before the target can think, The sharingan's weakness is Taijustu, thats only when the enemy's speed eceeds what the Sharingan can focus on leaving it open for a death blow, the Sharingan is useless without large amounts of Chakra to use its techniques including Mangekyou, the Sharingan has Setbacks and TOO many prices the must be paid in order to reach its full power, prices that cause you to kill a loved one or worse, The Byakugan has No set backs but the blind spot that can be Fix as the user progresses, the Byakugan beats the Sharingan 3 tomoe, but the later YET TO BE SEEN Byakugan forms will surpass the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The Byakugan Users (Hyuga) are the most supreme with the usage of Taijustu the Sharingan's weakness, and supreme in Sensory. Rikidou's Wife was a Hyuga but not said in literacy nor speculation, but metaphoricly by being mentioned as the Uchihas creation into the Shinobi world.
 
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the Sharingan would NOT be stronger then the Byakugan and this is why, The Byakugan's first Form uses up the smallist amounts of Chakra in the most simple of techniques that can be used to capture or kill a target such as Gentle Fist 28 to 64 to 128 chakra strikes can kill a enemy with ease That is depending on the user's skill, or 8 trigrams the defensive move that deflects every projectile shot at the user while the technique is in effect, and the Byakugan's sensory surpasses all other Doujustus,making you more aware of the environment surrounding you, and the byakugan gives the user much more consontration on a target and his surroundings making it less likely for a hyuga to fall for a trap, and this is only the first form of the byakugan, its full power has yet to be seen, and the Sharingan on the other hand is a Doujustu that Specializes in Ninjustu and Genjustu, and can copy Ninjustu and Genjustu along with recording the enemy's moves into the user for later usage and coming up with a counter attack before the target can think, The sharingan's weakness is Taijustu, thats only when the enemy's speed eceeds what the Sharingan can focus on leaving it open for a death blow, the Sharingan is useless without large amounts of Chakra to use its techniques including Mangekyou, the Sharingan has Setbacks and TOO many prices the must be paid in order to reach its full power, prices that cause you to kill a loved one or worse, The Byakugan has No set backs but the blind spot that can be Fix as the user progresses, the Byakugan beats the Sharingan 3 tomoe, but the later YET TO BE SEEN Byakugan forms will surpass the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The Byakugan Users (Hyuga) are the most supreme with the usage of Taijustu the Sharingan's weakness, and supreme in Sensory. Rikidou's Wife was a Hyuga but not said in literacy nor speculation, but metaphoricly by being mentioned as the Uchihas creation into the Shinobi world.

Sharingan enables the user to attack long range, that has to be a plus... If you are not in the hitting range of a Hyuuga they might be a lesser threat... whatever. Sharingan is a very evolved (may or may not be advanced) form of Byakugan, do you agree on that?

Metaphors are read differently by every person who reads it. Rikudou having a Hyuuga wife is not true until proven or at least stated by a more reliable source.
 
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Sharingan enables the user to attack long range, that has to be a plus... If you are not in the hitting range of a Hyuuga they might be a lesser threat... whatever. Sharingan is a very evolved (may or may not be advanced) form of Byakugan, do you agree on that?

Metaphors are read differently by every person who reads it. Rikudou having a Hyuuga wife is not true until proven or at least stated by a more reliable source.

It IS true, Kakashi (Metaphoricly) said it NOT (speculated) which is a Fact i figured out sooner then everyone else, i have watched this series since it first came out, and the minute Kakashi mentioned The Uchiha's origins lie with the hyugas it was already obvious, its already been proven but not in point blank VISUAL literacy thats what proof you are looking for, but wont come untill the series is nearly over. so what you are telling me is you are going to WAIT for someone else or Misashi Kishimoto to tell you the exact same thing i already figured out? just to get a confirmation? W.O.W:) i guess you are one of those people who wait for things to be revealed to them rather then taking the investigational path and uncovering it yourself, that means you have bad or VERY bad perception conserning UNDISCLOSED events and Naruto.
 
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