The Hyuga Clan predated Rikidou Sennin

transroboball

Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
497
Reaction score
20
It IS true, Kakashi (Metaphoricly) said it NOT (speculated) which is a Fact i figured out sooner then everyone else, i have watched this series since it first came out, and the minute Kakashi mentioned The Uchiha's origins lie with the hyugas it was already obvious, its already been proven but not in point blank VISUAL literacy thats what proof you are looking for, but wont come untill the series is nearly over. so what you are telling me is you are going to WAIT for someone else or Misashi Kishimoto to tell you the exact same thing i already figured out? W.O.W:) i guess you are one of those people who wait for things to be revealed to them rather then taking the investigational path and uncovering it yourself, that means you have bad or VERY bad perception conserning UNDISCLOSED events and Naruto.


Well said... +rep

It isnt weak we have only seen the first form of the Byakugan, and even the first form beats the 3 tomoe Sharingan.

So are there more forms of "Byakuga.."?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
10
Last edited by a moderator:

SashaUchiha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Feb 13, 2012
Messages
2,229
Reaction score
287
It IS true, Kakashi (Metaphoricly) said it NOT (speculated) which is a Fact i figured out sooner then everyone else, i have watched this series since it first came out, and the minute Kakashi mentioned The Uchiha's origins lie with the hyugas it was already obvious, its already been proven but not in point blank VISUAL literacy thats what proof you are looking for, but wont come untill the series is nearly over. so what you are telling me is you are going to WAIT for someone else or Misashi Kishimoto to tell you the exact same thing i already figured out? just to get a confirmation? W.O.W:) i guess you are one of those people who wait for things to be revealed to them rather then taking the investigational path and uncovering it yourself, that means you have bad or VERY bad perception conserning UNDISCLOSED events and Naruto.

:D see? this what happens when you start painting pictures of people you've never seen... you know nothing about me hon, you better stick to you thread topic if you know what is good for you. Start making personal comments as soon as you run out of juice? U_U Weakling... you're not even a fair fight. U_U

please quote Kakashi's metaphor for me, will ya? What I see in the page circulating here on your thread is not very clear to me without my contact lenses... why don't you put on your Mangekyou ByakuRinnegan and make it clearer for us lesser mortals??? Be sure to clarify the WIFE part, because now I'm really interested!!! :zonder:
 

The God of Wind

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
3,348
Reaction score
459
Good job finding the link, never thought of it that way! It is very possible as history may repeat itself and Naruto...the new Sage of the 6 Paths marries Hinata, only this time.....there WILL be true peace!
 

Vexorian

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Sep 21, 2011
Messages
1,000
Reaction score
52
If you did read my first post, then that was proof enough, why would the Uchiha's origins lie with the Hyuga? because The elder brother the very first Uchiha was brought into the ninja world by a hyuga woman, it was a METAPHORE not speaking or showing what exactly happened, that is what Kishimoto does best is leaving confusing Metaphores for the fans to spend months to figure out:) IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME then you must be one of those people who need things to be revealed for you to actually believe of know for a fact if a certin statement is true, rather then uncoving it yourself. if you are then you have Bad perception conserning UNDISCLOSED events and Naruto)'::flaw:

What I'm looking at is the fact that the Juubi had the Sharingan eye, just a far more advanced form of it. What you say makes sense, and was likely true, but the Hyuuga Clan had nothing to do with it considering the Juubi's eye is currently believed to be the spawn of the Sharingan. Rikudou Sage gained the Tomoe on his eye when he became the Juubi Jinchuuriki. Thus the Hyuuga clan did predate them but it's not necessarily true that the Rikudou Sage's wife was a Hyuuga, or that he had a wife at all.

The best bet is that everything was twisted in legend, and the Elder son had the Byakugan, rather than the Sharingan, which then gave birth to the Sharingan. When both the Rinnegan and Juubi's eye mixed, it stands to reason that the Byakugan was the result. It then gave birth to the modern-day Sharingan over several centuries, which is a far less potent eye than that which the Juubi already posessed.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
10
:D see? this what happens when you start painting pictures of people you've never seen... you know nothing about me hon, you better stick to you thread topic if you know what is good for you. Start making personal comments as soon as you run out of juice? U_U Weakling... you're not even a fair fight. U_U please quote Kakashi's metaphor for me, will ya? What I see in the page circulating here on your thread is not very clear to me without my contact lenses... why don't you put on your Mangekyou ByakuRinnegan and make it clearer for us lesser mortals??? Be sure to clarify the WIFE part, because now I'm really interested!!! :zonder:
i wasnt attacking you and im sorry you believe that, but what i said was a FACT since you show the traits of what i previously posted. and personal comments? i dont know you personally so how did i make a personal comment against you? more importanly why are you attacking me telling me IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU? just because i said something true?

Good job finding the link, never thought of it that way! It is very possible as history may repeat itself and Naruto...the new Sage of the 6 Paths marries Hinata, only this time.....there WILL be true peace!
So you agree then? i thought you were going to troll me like everyone else. im glad at least someone realizes, after that thread i made conserning a upcoming character, most people on this site are going to hate me untill he makes his appearence.

:D see? this what happens when you start painting pictures of people you've never seen... you know nothing about me hon, you better stick to you thread topic if you know what is good for you. Start making personal comments as soon as you run out of juice? U_U Weakling... you're not even a fair fight. U_U please quote Kakashi's metaphor for me, will ya? What I see in the page circulating here on your thread is not very clear to me without my contact lenses... why don't you put on your Mangekyou ByakuRinnegan and make it clearer for us lesser mortals??? Be sure to clarify the WIFE part, because now I'm really interested!!! :zonder:
uhh im pretty sure i already said what needed to be said conserning Rikidou's wife and Kakashi's metaphore, read all my previous post and i hope you will understand if not, then you are going to be waiting another year for it to be revealed snd then you will know.

What I'm looking at is the fact that the Juubi had the Sharingan eye, just a far more advanced form of it. What you say makes sense, and was likely true, but the Hyuuga Clan had nothing to do with it considering the Juubi's eye is currently believed to be the spawn of the Sharingan. Rikudou Sage gained the Tomoe on his eye when he became the Juubi Jinchuuriki. Thus the Hyuuga clan did predate them but it's not necessarily true that the Rikudou Sage's wife was a Hyuuga, or that he had a wife at all.
nah its true that Rikidou's wife was a hyuga, if not then Kakashi would have NEVER mentioned The Uchiha'a origins lie with the hyuga, its a yet to be revealed fact that Rikidou's wife was a hyuga.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

AWSUM SID

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Nov 17, 2011
Messages
1,345
Reaction score
284
The Hyuga clan predated The Sage Of 6 paths, and PROOF of that is Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga woman which is the reason why it was mentioned that the Uchihas are decendants of the Hyuga clan, because the first Uchiha the Elder brother was brought into the Ninja world by a hyuga woman.

maybe a hyuga was created when an Uchiha banged a senju
 

Vexorian

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Sep 21, 2011
Messages
1,000
Reaction score
52
Re-check my post please, I was in the process of adding to it.

Edit: By this, we can infer that one can make an infinite number of theories and any and all of them can be true. That's the problem, we don't know which path he will choose.
 

SashaUchiha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Feb 13, 2012
Messages
2,229
Reaction score
287
1)i wasnt attacking you and im sorry you believe that, 2)but what i said was a FACT since you show the traits of what i previously posted. 3)and personal comments? i dont know you personally so how did i make a personal comment against you? 4)more importanly why are you attacking me telling me IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU? 5)just because i said something true?


1. I never said you were attacking me, you can't :D
2. And you my friend, have serious problems if you believe your comments about strangers are facts...
3. You just did that... twice. Or did you have someone type it for you?
4. I still haven't attacked you... just making you aware that I CAN.
5. You need help, seriously. You must be strange because I actually started off supporting your theory (most of it) and here you are fighting with me :sy:

uhh im pretty sure i already said what needed to be said conserning Rikidou's wife and Kakashi's metaphore, read all my previous post and i hope you will understand if not, then you are going to be waiting another year for it to be revealed snd then you will know.

Like I said, nothing about that metaphor thingie is clear to me inspite of repeated reading of all your previous posts.

All I want you to do is:
1. Quote Kakashi's metaphor.
2. Convert it to human readable format
3. Write it here in plain English.

After this, whether I agree with you or not, I will +rep you twice for the effort.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
10
Re-check my post please, I was in the process of adding to it. Edit: By this, we can infer that one can make an infinite number of theories and any and all of them can be true. That's the problem, we don't know which path he will choose.
you are right on that point, But everything i said was NOT (theories) nor (Speculation) it took a little bit to come to that factual statement.

What I'm looking at is the fact that the Juubi had the Sharingan eye, just a far more advanced form of it. What you say makes sense, and was likely true, but the Hyuuga Clan had nothing to do with it considering the Juubi's eye is currently believed to be the spawn of the Sharingan. Rikudou Sage gained the Tomoe on his eye when he became the Juubi Jinchuuriki. Thus the Hyuuga clan did predate them but it's not necessarily true that the Rikudou Sage's wife was a Hyuuga, or that he had a wife at all. The best bet is that everything was twisted in legend, and the Elder son had the Byakugan, rather than the Sharingan, which then gave birth to the Sharingan. When both the Rinnegan and Juubi's eye mixed, it stands to reason that the Byakugan was the result. It then gave birth to the modern-day Sharingan over several centuries, which is a far less potent eye than that which the Juubi already posessed.
uhh what are you talkin about? please quote one of my messages that said the hyuga had something to do with the juubi's sharingan please, so i can answer?

:)
Like I said, nothing about that metaphor thingie is clear to me inspite of repeated reading of all your previous posts. All I want you to do is: 1. Quote Kakashi's metaphor. 2. Convert it to human readable format 3. Write it here in plain English. After this, whether I agree with you or not, I will +rep you twice for the effort.
I did already! woman! what more do you want from me!? Kakashi's Metaphore was. it is said the Uchiha's origins lie with the Hyuga. thats reffering to Rkidou's wife, stating that the FIRST UCHIHA ELDER BROTHER was brought into the first Shinobi world by a Hyuga Woman.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
182
Reaction score
9
Nobody in the leaf really knew where the Sharingan originally came from. They assumed it was a mutation from the Byakugan. It was only a rumor that Uchiha descended from Hyuga. Kakashi stated in a few of the video games, and in the early anime that it was only a rumor. So it's not very liable to use as "proof." Hope that helped some what..And so far, it hasn't been mentioned that Rikkudo Senin even had a wife..Then again, who knows? Kishi probably won't tell us anyway.
 
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
10
Nobody in the leaf really knew where the Sharingan originally came from. They assumed it was a mutation from the Byakugan. It was only a rumor that Uchiha descended from Hyuga. Kakashi stated in a few of the video games, and in the early anime that it was only a rumor. So it's not very liable to use as "proof." Hope that helped some what..And so far, it hasn't been mentioned that Rikkudo Senin even had a wife..Then again, who knows? Kishi probably won't tell us anyway.
tHE pROOF IS THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE I GATHERED read ALL my previous post to understand, ill leave it at that.
 

SashaUchiha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Feb 13, 2012
Messages
2,229
Reaction score
287
:) I did already! woman! what more do you want from me!? Kakashi's Metaphore was. it is said the Uchiha's origins lie with the Hyuga. thats reffering to Rkidou's wife, stating that the FIRST UCHIHA ELDER BROTHER was brought into the first Shinobi world by a Hyuga Woman.

You must be registered for see images
I have to rep you for this now... :sy:

boy! let me unmetaphorize it for you!

Kakashi's metaphor: It is said the Uchiha's origins lie with the Hyuga.

It could be a Hyuuga woman of any generation (I know it's hard for you to accept) This woman could have been SO6P's mother for all we know, the Elder Son's daughter or anybody related to him!

I know your problem with assuming that the first brother was Uchiha. Rikudou was a great man but I doubt he directly gave birth to a clan, he just gave birth to two guys. These guys later on made those clans. (tell me if its getting harder for you? I'll try dumbing it down further.)

Elder Brother, your so called Uchiha VVV
That, to me, does not look like a Sharingan... (tell me if it does to you. I understand we perceive things differently)

You must be registered for see images
 
Joined
Jul 20, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
10
[/B] 1. I never said you were attacking me, you can't :D 2. And you my friend, have serious problems if you believe your comments about strangers are facts... 3. You just did that... twice. Or did you have someone type it for you? 4. I still haven't attacked you... just making you aware that I CAN. 5. You need help, seriously. You must be strange because I actually started off supporting your theory (most of it) and here you are fighting with me :sy: Like I said, nothing about that metaphor thingie is clear to me inspite of repeated reading of all your previous posts. All I want you to do is: 1. Quote Kakashi's metaphor. 2. Convert it to human readable format 3. Write it here in plain English. After this, whether I agree with you or not, I will +rep you twice for the effort.
Ha! you arent the only Hacker/cyberfighter here, just lettin you know that RIGHT NOW but ok:)

You must be registered for see images
I have to rep you for this now... :sy: boy! let me unmetaphorize it for you! Kakashi's metaphor: It is said the Uchiha's origins lie with the Hyuga. It could be a Hyuuga woman of any generation (I know it's hard for you to accept) This woman could have been SO6P's mother for all we know, the Elder Son's daughter or anybody related to him! I know your problem with assuming that the first brother was Uchiha. Rikudou was a great man but I doubt he directly gave birth to a clan, he just gave birth to two guys. These guys later on made those clans. (tell me if its getting harder for you? I'll try dumbing it down further.) Elder Brother, your so called Uchiha VVV That, to me, does not look like a Sharingan... (tell me if it does to you. I understand we perceive things differently)
You must be registered for see images
Of course it dosent look like a Sharingan, its Rikidou's Rinnegan and the Juubi's sharingan, BUT the tomoes arent dots instead because of the mixure they are spiral lines, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? or do i need to repeat it again to you? i dont accept THEORYS and SPECULATION, only facts but ok.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

SashaUchiha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Feb 13, 2012
Messages
2,229
Reaction score
287
Of course it dosent look like a Sharingan, its Rikidou's Rinnegan and the Juubi's sharingan, BUT the tomoes arent dots instead because of the mixure they are spiral lines, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? or do i need to repeat it again to you? i dont accept THEORYS and SPECULATION, only facts but ok.

huh? :lmao:

No! I do not understand!

:lmao: repeat it, yeah! Slooooooowlyyy! :lmao:

Wait wait! Elder brothers eyes are Juubi's Sharingan+Rikudou's Rinnegan? Is that a metaphor saying "Juubi is Hyuuga"? :lmao:

U_U seriously, if you are not intending to make sense don't say anything.
You must be registered for see images



Ha! this is the INTERNET remember that.
I didn't notice. I don't have the Mangekyou ByakuRinnegan.
You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 22, 2011
Messages
39
Reaction score
1
true but if the byakugan has different forms we dont know about then whats saying theres not drwwbacks to those but all your points made sense and they are to different so maybe the elder sons two kids one had byakugan one had sharingan so maybe thats why
 
Top