[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

[gotacigo]

Im gonna try to explain a few questions that were asked.
1.) In the final page, Tobi is holding onto the chain that holds the fan in his right hand, and in his left hand he is catching the handle of he fan.
2.) Kyuubi is not afraid of the Juubi, he is just honestly saying that he isn't as powerful. He also states that because the 8 and 9 tails are still out and about and the ten tails isnt going to be in a full perfect form, he isnt sure about the outcome, but that they will have to try and fight to find out if they stand a chance.
3.) Tobi was insulting both Gai and Kakashi. He obviously knows them well enough to know some of their character flaws. This doesnt mean that he is from Konoha, it means he understands his enemy perfectly.
4.)Tobi could not have sealed Kinkaku and Ginkaku outside of the war prior to the fighting for a few reasons. One being that the bottle was in the possession of the brothers and I doubt they would have taken kindly to being sealed in their own property. The second being that the jar was in the possession of the Raikage. They transported it onto the field of battle to defeat Kinkaku after he went tailed beast. Tobi instantly took this opportunity to invade the battlefield for the first time in the war and relieve them of the two pieces containing the brothers, and enough nine tailed chakra to summon the juubi.
5.) Tobi is not Obito, so stop saying it. Its stupid. He wasn't old enough, he wasnt wise enough, he wasnt powerful enough, he died, and maybe most importantly... he believed in doing good, not evil. He is the one that convinced Kakashi to fight for his teammates instead of deserting them. Denying these OBVIOUS facts to fantasize about some demented theory that Obito is somehow back to life and is the most powerful all knowing invincible man in the world is retarded.
6.) People keep saying that Madara created or trained Tobi. I put it to you this way. I find it more likely that Tobi trained and cultured Madara. Who told Madara and Izuna about Mangekyou? Who told Madara about Rinnengan? Chances are much more likely that Tobi predates Madara is even more powerful than him. Lets look at fact.... Tobi got hit by ameratsu and came out clean. Tobi had his arm infected by bugs and cut it off and soon after replaced it. Tobi had half his torso and an arm and some of his face blown off by Konan and healed shortly afterwards, with no residual damage. Tobi has the intimate knowledge of the Rikudou, his sons, the tailed beasts, including the juubi, the personal fight between Senju and Uchiha dating back to the origin (the sons of the sage). He has bent character after character to his will. He has masqueraded as a nitwit Akatsuki member and as the most renowned uchiha (madara) and no one has called him out on it, because they have no way to scope his power. He has time space ninjutsu and knows the workings of the Sharingan and Rinnengan intimately. He claims that the Rinnengan was "his". He only uses one rinnengan even though he has both. He uses one sharingan as well, because he knows the power of having both as a balance. Tobi has faced every single situation with no fear at all (unless he was acting like during sasuke deidara fight). He fought 8 Konoha ninjas singlehandedly and embarrassed them. He entered the secret meeting of the kages and threatened them with war. He saved Sasuke from Tsuchikages dust techniques. He purposefully used Nagato the descendant of his enemies to further his own schemes, and empowered him all with the purpose of using him. He negates his own existence by calling himself "no one". Think of all the other villians... always so desperate to pronounce their own name and power. So desperate for the recognition of their greatness. Tobi doesnt want to be recognized, he doesnt want to be feared or admired. He wants to destroy all freedom and sense of self from the world. This is a man who has planned and plotted and steered the course of the fate of the world in a direction of his choosing for DECADES, maybe even centuries! He was hit by a BALL crushing rasengan by the 4th hokage, Minato, and then stabbed in the chest by a kunai, only to retreat with a promise to return, which even Minato didn't doubt. He has penetrated and pervaded every aspect of this entire series.
If you still think that Tobi is someone as small and unimportant as Obito Uchiha, then you are a lost cause. HOPELESS.
Tobi is and can only be the elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths.
They wouldnt recognize his face or his name even if he told it to them...so whats the point? And honestly his face is so disfigured, I'm not surprised he keeps it covered, just like the rest of his body. He wears gloves and a full on cloak and mask. His skin is hidden, his name is hidden, his face is hidden, the only thing he has been completely explicit about is his desires. Which frankly he's been honest about this whole time. "I'm going to revive the Juubi and use the Infinite Tsukiyomi on the world, destroying reality as you know it" - Tobi
his response from the kage... " The what? The who? What you talkin about?"
His plans, and his power are on a higher level than anyone that we know of. I don't know how I can make it any more obvious than that. I hope that helps...

great theory

 

[gotacigo]

As I said before. There is still alot we dont know about the Second Hokage. Earlier in the series, it was said that he gave his life by staying behind and letting Danzo and Hiruzen go ahead while he stayed and faught the shinobi that were chasing them. But in episode 270, They said that the Gold and Silver brothers killed him. And in the previous epidode they said the Gold and Silver brothers staged a coup d'tat and killed him and someone else. Anybody have any details or facts about the Second Hokage (Tobirama)?

or the gold and silver brothers and some of their vilige were chasing the second hokage and his group.
the second hokage let the group escape, and he died by the brothers..
so it can be the same

 

[jonsin19]

or the gold and silver brothers and some of their vilige were chasing the second hokage and his group.
the second hokage let the group escape, and he died by the brothers..
so it can be the same

Ok, thanks for the response! I thought this was a little snag in the story line that was overlooked, by saying he died twice.

 

[Killa B]

HO come you people say that obito could be tobi? are you facking stupid? I believe so! There is LOGIC in saying that obito is not toby!!!

I could give you a lot of arguments for it but the most important is the timeline! Think about that dumbasses!! Jesus...eat some vegetables, it will make your brain work better!!!

Obito was shown just to explain how kakashi got his sharinghan and to give some sense about comrades, and following the orders it's not everything.... you people insisting in Obito beeing Tobi makes me facking sick and blow my eyeballs!! That theory is one of the most easiest to see...no wonder you are small minded! Get a facking grip!!!

 

[jonsin19]

When was the last time they showed the "Ramen Guy"? Because I watched a few old episodes when naruto was a kid- he was helping the "Ramen Guy" rescue his daughter I think. In the end of the episode, He had lost a LOT of weight anf he looked like tobi. This was at the very end of naruto (The original series) episode 168. Compare him to tobi when his mask was blown off while fighting Konan.

 

[miky617]

When was the last time they showed the "Ramen Guy"? Because I watched a few old episodes when naruto was a kid- he was helping the "Ramen Guy" rescue his daughter I think. In the end of the episode, He had lost a LOT of weight anf he looked like tobi. This was at the very end of naruto (The original series) episode 168. Compare him to tobi when his mask was blown off while fighting Konan.

I hope ur not being serious... :sy:

 

[iSync]

Awesome chapter, could use some milk. I think Naruto will one shot juubi. Jk.

 

[squigles]

When was the last time they showed the "Ramen Guy"? Because I watched a few old episodes when naruto was a kid- he was helping the "Ramen Guy" rescue his daughter I think. In the end of the episode, He had lost a LOT of weight anf he looked like tobi. This was at the very end of naruto (The original series) episode 168. Compare him to tobi when his mask was blown off while fighting Konan.

Makes PERFECT sense! Ramen guy was pissed that his shop was destroyed when Nagato attacked. So he developed secret space time jutsu, went back in time, and staged a secret plan to capture all the tailed beasts and then revive the Juubi so he could put the world under Infinite Tsukuyomi!

That damn Ramen Guy. Always though he was wierd.....

 

[UnrealSoul]

Makes PERFECT sense! Ramen guy was pissed that his shop was destroyed when Nagato attacked. So he developed secret space time jutsu, went back in time, and staged a secret plan to capture all the tailed beasts and then revive the Juubi so he could put the world under Infinite Tsukuyomi!

That damn Ramen Guy. Always though he was wierd.....

Watch out he just might get you.....:noc:

 

[jonsin19]

I hope ur not being serious... :sy:

I figured it was stupid too, but hey, he looks like him though- you cant deny me on that one! :shrug:

I was reading on some theory's and some people were saying that, so I decided to look into his character. Why does he always give naruto free ramen, and claims he is his best customer? Naruto has never paid, not even once! But dude, I am not trolling! Though this does sound a bit trivial...

 

[jonsin19]

Makes PERFECT sense! Ramen guy was pissed that his shop was destroyed when Nagato attacked. So he developed secret space time jutsu, went back in time, and staged a secret plan to capture all the tailed beasts and then revive the Juubi so he could put the world under Infinite Tsukuyomi!

That damn Ramen Guy. Always though he was wierd.....

I figured it was stupid too, but hey, he looks like him though- you cant deny me on that one! :shrug:

I was reading on some theory's and some people were saying that, so I decided to look into his character. Why does he always give naruto free ramen, and claims he is his best customer? Naruto has never paid, not even once! But dude, I am not trolling! Though this does sound a bit trivial...

 

[Sharinganuser10]

Tobi = rin

 

[squigles]

I figured it was stupid too, but hey, he looks like him though- you cant deny me on that one! :shrug:

I was reading on some theory's and some people were saying that, so I decided to look into his character. Why does he always give naruto free ramen, and claims he is his best customer? Naruto has never paid, not even once! But dude, I am not trolling! Though this does sound a bit trivial...

It's such a ridiculous idea that it was funny and meme worthy. If only I had photoshop skills I'd do it.

 

[piyushkh]

the only person to know tobis true identity is kishi.until he uncover tobis secrate we just have to guess who tobi is

 

[lion fang master]

It taking the alliance a long time to get to Naruto also kishi needs to stop joking around and provide Naruto with some upgrade stuff. I believe that there is a reason there are 2 relics of rikoudu sage left the two swords. Hopefully they both find there way to Naruto.
It's about time rasengan goes on the shelf, I bet that next week naruto goes multi clone jutsu and say block this and probably tobi does block all of them. Please kishi give something-FTG, Elements or weapons.

 

[Pin]

Im gonna try to explain a few questions that were asked.
1.) In the final page, Tobi is holding onto the chain that holds the fan in his right hand, and in his left hand he is catching the handle of he fan.
2.) Kyuubi is not afraid of the Juubi, he is just honestly saying that he isn't as powerful. He also states that because the 8 and 9 tails are still out and about and the ten tails isnt going to be in a full perfect form, he isnt sure about the outcome, but that they will have to try and fight to find out if they stand a chance.
3.) Tobi was insulting both Gai and Kakashi. He obviously knows them well enough to know some of their character flaws. This doesnt mean that he is from Konoha, it means he understands his enemy perfectly.
4.)Tobi could not have sealed Kinkaku and Ginkaku outside of the war prior to the fighting for a few reasons. One being that the bottle was in the possession of the brothers and I doubt they would have taken kindly to being sealed in their own property. The second being that the jar was in the possession of the Raikage. They transported it onto the field of battle to defeat Kinkaku after he went tailed beast. Tobi instantly took this opportunity to invade the battlefield for the first time in the war and relieve them of the two pieces containing the brothers, and enough nine tailed chakra to summon the juubi.
5.) Tobi is not Obito, so stop saying it. Its stupid. He wasn't old enough, he wasnt wise enough, he wasnt powerful enough, he died, and maybe most importantly... he believed in doing good, not evil. He is the one that convinced Kakashi to fight for his teammates instead of deserting them. Denying these OBVIOUS facts to fantasize about some demented theory that Obito is somehow back to life and is the most powerful all knowing invincible man in the world is retarded.
6.) People keep saying that Madara created or trained Tobi. I put it to you this way. I find it more likely that Tobi trained and cultured Madara. Who told Madara and Izuna about Mangekyou? Who told Madara about Rinnengan? Chances are much more likely that Tobi predates Madara is even more powerful than him. Lets look at fact.... Tobi got hit by ameratsu and came out clean. Tobi had his arm infected by bugs and cut it off and soon after replaced it. Tobi had half his torso and an arm and some of his face blown off by Konan and healed shortly afterwards, with no residual damage. Tobi has the intimate knowledge of the Rikudou, his sons, the tailed beasts, including the juubi, the personal fight between Senju and Uchiha dating back to the origin (the sons of the sage). He has bent character after character to his will. He has masqueraded as a nitwit Akatsuki member and as the most renowned uchiha (madara) and no one has called him out on it, because they have no way to scope his power. He has time space ninjutsu and knows the workings of the Sharingan and Rinnengan intimately. He claims that the Rinnengan was "his". He only uses one rinnengan even though he has both. He uses one sharingan as well, because he knows the power of having both as a balance. Tobi has faced every single situation with no fear at all (unless he was acting like during sasuke deidara fight). He fought 8 Konoha ninjas singlehandedly and embarrassed them. He entered the secret meeting of the kages and threatened them with war. He saved Sasuke from Tsuchikages dust techniques. He purposefully used Nagato the descendant of his enemies to further his own schemes, and empowered him all with the purpose of using him. He negates his own existence by calling himself "no one". Think of all the other villians... always so desperate to pronounce their own name and power. So desperate for the recognition of their greatness. Tobi doesnt want to be recognized, he doesnt want to be feared or admired. He wants to destroy all freedom and sense of self from the world. This is a man who has planned and plotted and steered the course of the fate of the world in a direction of his choosing for DECADES, maybe even centuries! He was hit by a BALL crushing rasengan by the 4th hokage, Minato, and then stabbed in the chest by a kunai, only to retreat with a promise to return, which even Minato didn't doubt. He has penetrated and pervaded every aspect of this entire series.
If you still think that Tobi is someone as small and unimportant as Obito Uchiha, then you are a lost cause. HOPELESS.
Tobi is and can only be the elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths.
They wouldnt recognize his face or his name even if he told it to them...so whats the point? And honestly his face is so disfigured, I'm not surprised he keeps it covered, just like the rest of his body. He wears gloves and a full on cloak and mask. His skin is hidden, his name is hidden, his face is hidden, the only thing he has been completely explicit about is his desires. Which frankly he's been honest about this whole time. "I'm going to revive the Juubi and use the Infinite Tsukiyomi on the world, destroying reality as you know it" - Tobi
his response from the kage... " The what? The who? What you talkin about?"
His plans, and his power are on a higher level than anyone that we know of. I don't know how I can make it any more obvious than that. I hope that helps...

great and logical theory! +rep for you

 

[-Ibrahim-]

What if Tobi is Naruto from the future? Lol jk i have no idea.

 

[miky617]

I'm pretty sure that what's hiding under that mask....is a Troll Face

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[Volcanikage]

idk whats the big deal he Konohamaru father -_- tobi is Hiruzen Sarutobi son

1.he was born in the village

2.can fit on the timeline being asuma older brother

3.he can hate the village for not letting him being hokage and choose Minato

4. he left the village he acquired senju dna from being one of oro pets and the uchiha from being there most likely the ms belong to one of his uchiha friend (obito father) and that can explain how he has the space jutsu just like kakashi and how he know about kakashi and guy

5.tobi = sarutobi

6.know how the barrier around kurama would work and how hiruzen may do everything being his son hiruzen may have trusted him

7.he didnt give his mother a change because he know how dangerous she can be with her sealing jutsu

 

[squigles]

idk whats the big deal he Konohamaru father -_- tobi is Hiruzen Sarutobi son

1.he was born in the village

2.can fit on the timeline being asuma older brother

3.he can hate the village for not letting him being hokage and choose Minato

4. he left the village he acquired senju dna from being one of oro pets and the uchiha from being there most likely the ms belong to one of his uchiha friend (obito father) and that can explain how he has the space jutsu just like kakashi and how he know about kakashi and guy

5.tobi = sarutobi

6.know how the barrier around kurama would work and how hiruzen may do everything being his son hiruzen may have trusted him

7.he didnt give his mother a change because he know how dangerous she can be with her sealing jutsu

This is almost as funny as Ramen Guy being Tobi.