[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions
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jhunereyes
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i thought this week we would have learned about oro and sasukes' goal?
Tobi could be a Konoha ninja for he is able to recognize kakasahi and gai?
4/5 on this week's manga.
can't wait to see more fights of naruto and tobi nxt chap....
Tobi could be a Konoha ninja for he is able to recognize kakasahi and gai?
4/5 on this week's manga.
can't wait to see more fights of naruto and tobi nxt chap....
I believe that Tobi's true identity is unkown in terms of the characters that the audience (us) knows. The fact that we says that he is no-one makes me believe that there's a shitty story behind his plan tracing his past. Something similar as nagato for instance.
We now by now that he certainly is not madara. They differ personality and goal - wise. He also is old, when fighting konan he revealed the other part of the eye when he used izanagi. . . his face was all wrinkly. Something very interesting about him relates to the rinnegan. Where he goes to fight konan for nagato's rinnegan he tells her that he was the one who gave nagato those eyes. But nagato got his eyes since the time he met jiraiya. THere's definitely something weird behind this part...
As about the rest naruto continues with his determination, as tobi also is very determined. THeir characters are similar in some ways. I also like the fact that during his toughest battle naruto is accompanied by kakashi, gai and killer bee . . . reflecting the importance of these characters. Plus i personally favor those three since they are key elements to the comedy, action and the moral of the story along with naruto. Somehow gai's attitude in this chapter made me think positively about getting old lol .
Can't wait for the content of the scroll that suigetsu found. It has probably something to do with going back in the past since sasuke wanted to talk with his clan or some shit like this. I also believe that its the key to ending madara's edo tensei.
What do you guys think ?
We now by now that he certainly is not madara. They differ personality and goal - wise. He also is old, when fighting konan he revealed the other part of the eye when he used izanagi. . . his face was all wrinkly. Something very interesting about him relates to the rinnegan. Where he goes to fight konan for nagato's rinnegan he tells her that he was the one who gave nagato those eyes. But nagato got his eyes since the time he met jiraiya. THere's definitely something weird behind this part...
As about the rest naruto continues with his determination, as tobi also is very determined. THeir characters are similar in some ways. I also like the fact that during his toughest battle naruto is accompanied by kakashi, gai and killer bee . . . reflecting the importance of these characters. Plus i personally favor those three since they are key elements to the comedy, action and the moral of the story along with naruto. Somehow gai's attitude in this chapter made me think positively about getting old lol .
Can't wait for the content of the scroll that suigetsu found. It has probably something to do with going back in the past since sasuke wanted to talk with his clan or some shit like this. I also believe that its the key to ending madara's edo tensei.
What do you guys think ?
Imagine Sasukes scroll containing a jutsu that can send his soul back in the past, similar to Dans jutsu. There he could experience the truth as he wants to. Then he wears a mask and refers to himself as "no one" to not interfere with his young selfs timeline, hence being Tobi as we all know now. Would explain all his knowledge, why he has no actual body and is a "shell" of his former self. And it would be a pretty cool and cruel twist if Sasuke himself, after learning and accepting the "truth", was the one who instigated the Uchiha massacre and helped Itachi. And it would also explain why he saves Sasuke all the time and guides him.
But well, just a daydream...and then its strange why he hasnt anything personal to say about Naruto while fighting him just now.
But well, just a daydream...and then its strange why he hasnt anything personal to say about Naruto while fighting him just now.
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it's too funny how ppl running back to the obito theory like obito is the only person guy and kakashi knew. ponder your thoughts before you like submit ppl. smh
DUDE your theory is ****ing awesome! That means that tobi has come from the future. But if that were the case tobi has come from the future to change what has already happened in his world. . . meaning that in his future naruto has already failed to accomplish what jiraiya and nagato longed for.
Im gonna try to explain a few questions that were asked.
1.) In the final page, Tobi is holding onto the chain that holds the fan in his right hand, and in his left hand he is catching the handle of he fan.
2.) Kyuubi is not afraid of the Juubi, he is just honestly saying that he isn't as powerful. He also states that because the 8 and 9 tails are still out and about and the ten tails isnt going to be in a full perfect form, he isnt sure about the outcome, but that they will have to try and fight to find out if they stand a chance.
3.) Tobi was insulting both Gai and Kakashi. He obviously knows them well enough to know some of their character flaws. This doesnt mean that he is from Konoha, it means he understands his enemy perfectly.
4.)Tobi could not have sealed Kinkaku and Ginkaku outside of the war prior to the fighting for a few reasons. One being that the bottle was in the possession of the brothers and I doubt they would have taken kindly to being sealed in their own property. The second being that the jar was in the possession of the Raikage. They transported it onto the field of battle to defeat Kinkaku after he went tailed beast. Tobi instantly took this opportunity to invade the battlefield for the first time in the war and relieve them of the two pieces containing the brothers, and enough nine tailed chakra to summon the juubi.
5.) Tobi is not Obito, so stop saying it. Its stupid. He wasn't old enough, he wasnt wise enough, he wasnt powerful enough, he died, and maybe most importantly... he believed in doing good, not evil. He is the one that convinced Kakashi to fight for his teammates instead of deserting them. Denying these OBVIOUS facts to fantasize about some demented theory that Obito is somehow back to life and is the most powerful all knowing invincible man in the world is retarded.
6.) People keep saying that Madara created or trained Tobi. I put it to you this way. I find it more likely that Tobi trained and cultured Madara. Who told Madara and Izuna about Mangekyou? Who told Madara about Rinnengan? Chances are much more likely that Tobi predates Madara is even more powerful than him. Lets look at fact.... Tobi got hit by ameratsu and came out clean. Tobi had his arm infected by bugs and cut it off and soon after replaced it. Tobi had half his torso and an arm and some of his face blown off by Konan and healed shortly afterwards, with no residual damage. Tobi has the intimate knowledge of the Rikudou, his sons, the tailed beasts, including the juubi, the personal fight between Senju and Uchiha dating back to the origin (the sons of the sage). He has bent character after character to his will. He has masqueraded as a nitwit Akatsuki member and as the most renowned uchiha (madara) and no one has called him out on it, because they have no way to scope his power. He has time space ninjutsu and knows the workings of the Sharingan and Rinnengan intimately. He claims that the Rinnengan was "his". He only uses one rinnengan even though he has both. He uses one sharingan as well, because he knows the power of having both as a balance. Tobi has faced every single situation with no fear at all (unless he was acting like during sasuke deidara fight). He fought 8 Konoha ninjas singlehandedly and embarrassed them. He entered the secret meeting of the kages and threatened them with war. He saved Sasuke from Tsuchikages dust techniques. He purposefully used Nagato the descendant of his enemies to further his own schemes, and empowered him all with the purpose of using him. He negates his own existence by calling himself "no one". Think of all the other villians... always so desperate to pronounce their own name and power. So desperate for the recognition of their greatness. Tobi doesnt want to be recognized, he doesnt want to be feared or admired. He wants to destroy all freedom and sense of self from the world. This is a man who has planned and plotted and steered the course of the fate of the world in a direction of his choosing for DECADES, maybe even centuries! He was hit by a BALL crushing rasengan by the 4th hokage, Minato, and then stabbed in the chest by a kunai, only to retreat with a promise to return, which even Minato didn't doubt. He has penetrated and pervaded every aspect of this entire series.
If you still think that Tobi is someone as small and unimportant as Obito Uchiha, then you are a lost cause. HOPELESS.
Tobi is and can only be the elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths.
They wouldnt recognize his face or his name even if he told it to them...so whats the point? And honestly his face is so disfigured, I'm not surprised he keeps it covered, just like the rest of his body. He wears gloves and a full on cloak and mask. His skin is hidden, his name is hidden, his face is hidden, the only thing he has been completely explicit about is his desires. Which frankly he's been honest about this whole time. "I'm going to revive the Juubi and use the Infinite Tsukiyomi on the world, destroying reality as you know it" - Tobi
his response from the kage... " The what? The who? What you talkin about?"
His plans, and his power are on a higher level than anyone that we know of. I don't know how I can make it any more obvious than that. I hope that helps...
1.) In the final page, Tobi is holding onto the chain that holds the fan in his right hand, and in his left hand he is catching the handle of he fan.
2.) Kyuubi is not afraid of the Juubi, he is just honestly saying that he isn't as powerful. He also states that because the 8 and 9 tails are still out and about and the ten tails isnt going to be in a full perfect form, he isnt sure about the outcome, but that they will have to try and fight to find out if they stand a chance.
3.) Tobi was insulting both Gai and Kakashi. He obviously knows them well enough to know some of their character flaws. This doesnt mean that he is from Konoha, it means he understands his enemy perfectly.
4.)Tobi could not have sealed Kinkaku and Ginkaku outside of the war prior to the fighting for a few reasons. One being that the bottle was in the possession of the brothers and I doubt they would have taken kindly to being sealed in their own property. The second being that the jar was in the possession of the Raikage. They transported it onto the field of battle to defeat Kinkaku after he went tailed beast. Tobi instantly took this opportunity to invade the battlefield for the first time in the war and relieve them of the two pieces containing the brothers, and enough nine tailed chakra to summon the juubi.
5.) Tobi is not Obito, so stop saying it. Its stupid. He wasn't old enough, he wasnt wise enough, he wasnt powerful enough, he died, and maybe most importantly... he believed in doing good, not evil. He is the one that convinced Kakashi to fight for his teammates instead of deserting them. Denying these OBVIOUS facts to fantasize about some demented theory that Obito is somehow back to life and is the most powerful all knowing invincible man in the world is retarded.
6.) People keep saying that Madara created or trained Tobi. I put it to you this way. I find it more likely that Tobi trained and cultured Madara. Who told Madara and Izuna about Mangekyou? Who told Madara about Rinnengan? Chances are much more likely that Tobi predates Madara is even more powerful than him. Lets look at fact.... Tobi got hit by ameratsu and came out clean. Tobi had his arm infected by bugs and cut it off and soon after replaced it. Tobi had half his torso and an arm and some of his face blown off by Konan and healed shortly afterwards, with no residual damage. Tobi has the intimate knowledge of the Rikudou, his sons, the tailed beasts, including the juubi, the personal fight between Senju and Uchiha dating back to the origin (the sons of the sage). He has bent character after character to his will. He has masqueraded as a nitwit Akatsuki member and as the most renowned uchiha (madara) and no one has called him out on it, because they have no way to scope his power. He has time space ninjutsu and knows the workings of the Sharingan and Rinnengan intimately. He claims that the Rinnengan was "his". He only uses one rinnengan even though he has both. He uses one sharingan as well, because he knows the power of having both as a balance. Tobi has faced every single situation with no fear at all (unless he was acting like during sasuke deidara fight). He fought 8 Konoha ninjas singlehandedly and embarrassed them. He entered the secret meeting of the kages and threatened them with war. He saved Sasuke from Tsuchikages dust techniques. He purposefully used Nagato the descendant of his enemies to further his own schemes, and empowered him all with the purpose of using him. He negates his own existence by calling himself "no one". Think of all the other villians... always so desperate to pronounce their own name and power. So desperate for the recognition of their greatness. Tobi doesnt want to be recognized, he doesnt want to be feared or admired. He wants to destroy all freedom and sense of self from the world. This is a man who has planned and plotted and steered the course of the fate of the world in a direction of his choosing for DECADES, maybe even centuries! He was hit by a BALL crushing rasengan by the 4th hokage, Minato, and then stabbed in the chest by a kunai, only to retreat with a promise to return, which even Minato didn't doubt. He has penetrated and pervaded every aspect of this entire series.
If you still think that Tobi is someone as small and unimportant as Obito Uchiha, then you are a lost cause. HOPELESS.
Tobi is and can only be the elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths.
They wouldnt recognize his face or his name even if he told it to them...so whats the point? And honestly his face is so disfigured, I'm not surprised he keeps it covered, just like the rest of his body. He wears gloves and a full on cloak and mask. His skin is hidden, his name is hidden, his face is hidden, the only thing he has been completely explicit about is his desires. Which frankly he's been honest about this whole time. "I'm going to revive the Juubi and use the Infinite Tsukiyomi on the world, destroying reality as you know it" - Tobi
his response from the kage... " The what? The who? What you talkin about?"
His plans, and his power are on a higher level than anyone that we know of. I don't know how I can make it any more obvious than that. I hope that helps...
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Tobi = Obito.....now before you gave me the B/S about him not being "old" enough to have been the one who fought Minato, I ask you why are you so stuck on only one man being the mask? I mean think for a second....obviously there was no way Obito could have escaped from under them bouldering rocks without any help. So which leaves me to believe that he was discovered, rescued, and then experimented on by Madara. So the guy that Madara fought was indeed Madara, but after failing and becoming ill he left the rest of the job to Obito. Time and time again Kishi has showed us the bond that senseis and students share to the point where their sensei's ideals becomes their own.
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Malebolgia
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You might want to look at the manga panels again or even the anime to see Tobi's half revealed face. Those are indeed wrinkles coming from his eyes, not scars.
Also, we know that Madara died shortly after his fight with the First Hokage. Obito wasn't even born during those times, so how could he be trained by Madara?
The Obito theory was created simply because of some similarities in Tobi's appearance, but there are a lot of facts that make the theory a relatively weak one, especially when compared to other possibilities such as Tobi being Izuna, Kagami, or the elder son of SO6P.
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