Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)

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Itachi MS<MUU
Itachi EMS>MUU
Itachi can use susanoo for a shoort time :)
Itachi can use amaterasu for a short time:)
Soo
MUU> Itachi MS
And you got this from ... where ?

What does EMS do to make Itachi better than Muu? We don't know.
Itachi can sustain susanoo for longer, a very sick and VERY drained of chakra Itachi sustained susanoo when Sasuke attacked him with his strongest attack at the time.

Itachi can use amaterasu for a longer period, as you already saw him burning the surroundings trying to get to Sasuke.

Stop making up stuff based on nothing.
 

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Did you forget that Muu had all this and still lost low difficulty to madara without him even using his perfect suasnoo?

Did you not read what I wrote? Try again:

"Until Kishi actually changes his mind or decide to reveal new info, it will stay canon and anything other than that can be summed up as baseless assumptions. Same can be said about his past battles since we are not privy to them (even though the 2nd Mizukage was, obviously, a bad match-up with his clam and jokey boy which can sense heat), or Muu’s progress for that matter, so it’s futile to bring that up when we are both full aware that only Kishi can answer that."


He had all these things and still lost to the sharingan, so his invisiblity and his dust release can be beaten.
Please, enlighten me. Show me some actual feats - or anything valid- backing up your baseless statement otherwise you don’t have an argument. The burden of proof is on you, and I’m pretty sure you have nothing. The reality is Itachi’s shown nothing that can deal will Muu’s invisibility nothing at all, blind faith won’t change that.


And how would him flying make amaterasu useless? Cause i must of missed something, last time i checked amaterasu doesnt travel on the ground.

And all this is if Muu even starts the battle off with going invisible, which is countered by itachi starting the battle off with genjutsu which he ALWAYS did when he was a live. He he starts the battle with genjutsu against some one with 0 knowledge on him(which Muu fits that discription) its a wrap.
Transcription Seal: Amaterasu (転写封印・天照, Tensha Fuuin: Amaterasu)
Ninjutsu, Fuuinjutsu, No rank, Supplementary, Short range (0-5m)
User: Uchiha Itachi


What so hard to understand? He can fly out of his reach thus the flames won’t reach him since amaterasu is not instant it actually travels after its initial spawn. Beside the point though, because Muu will turn invisible and make it impossible for Itachi to see him- i’m not even counting his sensory ability here which can see the flames coming from miles away. Amaterasu is useless here.

It is canon for Muu to go invisible right away, luckily the shinobi alliance had Gaara, plus tsukuyomi is a close range technique( and it takes time for him to activitate his MS). You do the math...
 
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This I don't agree with, *third goes charging into tobi uknowing of his powers and falls right through tobi* tobi preta paths his, then human paths him
he didnt say witch tobi but i assume he meant tobi with just sharingan oh and negative knight i agree with most except minato i dont see him losing to him but if i could give you plsu rep twice i would :cool:
 

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he didnt say witch tobi but i assume he meant tobi with just sharingan oh and negative knight i agree with most except minato i dont see him losing to him but if i could give you plsu rep twice i would :cool:
xd thanks man, Yeah i meant 3 Tomoe Tobi

Lol yeah Minato would win 7 times out of 10

But deidara could get lucky
 
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Not bad, +rep for the thread.
The doubt seems to lie between Kisame vs Tobirama (Tobirama can't win this unless he figures a way to beat Kisame without getting his chakra sucked.) The 8 tail beast got dumped in terms of power/strength and Kisame didn't do a lot for that to happen.

Minato might be too much for Deidara, plus Deidara is a stubborn anyway. :x

Gaara vs Zetsu, hm pretty interesting.
By the way I disagree Konan would have to sacrifice herself in order to kill Oonoki they both could go full out as long as she can avoid Oonoki's attack. She would win or Oonoki would draw. It does not mean I underestimate this dude in fact he became one of my fav. character when he faced Gaara while chatting.

Akatsuki's members died by PNJ excluding 2 or 3? I can only remember of Deidara's death which wasn't PNJ although PNJ was performed along with his death.

Very well, +rep. ^^
 

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Imo, second Mizukage shits on Kakuzu. Both are really underrated, but i do not think that earth spear can protect against the clone's explosion. and Kakuzu's Katon will just heat it up even faster, and i think that clam can take a barrage of elements.
Very nice i never thought about that specific detail to do with Katon attacks heating up the clone quicker, that is well thought out indeed.

But couldn't his Wind Element be used to cool down the the exploding clone in the same way ?
 

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I don't see how it would cool it down lol, i think the friction of Bleeding force would actually cause it to heat up even more.
Damn Kakuzu is in a real tight spot xd, yeah the second Mizukage could take this

Couldn't this Katon and Wind attacks be combined to overwhelm the force of the explosion ?

Btw my new threads are going to be Tag teams

In what order should i make these threads ?

(Itachi + Third Kazekage) vs (Deidara + Fourth Hokage)

(Sasori + Jiraya) vs (Kisame + Second Mizukage)

(Zetsu + Third Raikage) vs (Kakuzu + Second Tsuchikage)

*Jiraiya could easily be changed to any other Kage/Sannin that isn't being used already xd
 

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Btw my new threads are going to be Tag teams

In what order should i make these threads ?

(Itachi + Third Kazekage) vs (Deidara + Fourth Hokage)

(Sasori + Jiraya) vs (Kisame + Second Mizukage)

(Zetsu + Third Raikage) vs (Kakuzu + Second Tsuchikage)

*Jiraiya could easily be changed to any other Kage/Sannin that isn't being used already xd
Based on these match ups

Deidara + Fourth is way to overpowered
Zetsu + Third Raikage against Second Tsuchikage doesn't seem like a good match since they lack range jutsu.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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