I swear 3 tomoe Tobi > Itachi? Or am I missing something?

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Scryed

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Though I believe that Sharingan Tobi might be slightly above Itachi due to his S/T techs, if Itachi would've known everything about him, he would've came up with a plan that would have better chances of getting through his S/T techniques.

If Itachi were to fight Tobi head on, I think Tobi would come out ontop. The reason why Minato managed to escape being warped in was because of his instantanious teleportation (FTG).

Itachi doesn't have this but he does have pretty good reflexes. The problem would be having a technique to avoid being warped. If Tobi warps behind him and begins to suck him in, I don't know any technique of his that could prevent him from being warped. Since Itachi's entire shape starts to deform as he's being sucked in, he would need something instantanious that doesn't really require movement. FTG or Shinra Tensei are examples along with Konan's paper bombs that she revealed as she was about to be sucked in.

(This is a maybe) If Itachi could manifest Susanoo at a distance from himself the moment he activates it, then Susanoo could attack Tobi if Tobi attempts to warp Itachi away. That's if Susanoo itself has good movement speed to counterattack Tobi before Itachi is warped away. Considering that Susanoo pierced Orochimaru in the middle of his words, it seems to be quick in movement. If it could only manifest with Itachi inside it when it's activated, then I don't know how it'll counter if Tobi just happens to warp inside and behind Itachi.


The situation Tobi was in when he had a talk with Sasuke though, he would've died if he had not had the S/T that cancelled or warped Amaterasu away. He admited that he would've died if Itachi had known his secret because Itachi would've probably looked for a different plan that would actually get through his S/T. Catching him offguard worked but Amaterasu might've not been the best solution.

Itachi probably didn't know that Amaterasu would be rendered useless so he had that as his booby-trap thinking that the flames would remain on him until he is burnt to ash.

He caught Tobi offguard just like Minato caught him offguard when he FTGed to the kunai that had just phased through Tobi followed by a Rasengan. Except, this time Tobi was caught offguard through Sasuke's sharingan. At first, he didn't seem to expect anything as he showed him his sharingan until Sasuke's turned into Itachi's and spawned Amaterasu on him.

This doesn't mean that Itachi automatically > Tobi but he did manage to nearly kill him. Though it was almost at the same sence as Konan. Konan had time to disguise 6 billion explosive tags as the ocean while Itachi had time to place his Amaterasu trap on Sasuke's eye. Itachi knows his own limits but his brain allows him to think ahead using a different approach.
 

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Woah, woah, woah, slow the **** down, you're taking that waaaaaaaayy out of context. He said might. He didn't say straight up that Itachi could defeat him. You're delusional if think Itachi can defeat him. Tobi has stronger genjutsu than Itachi and genjutsu doesn't work on him. Amaterasu doesn't work either. For one, Tobi is intangible and Tobi has shown to be able to escape it by some unknown means. But whatever. Tobi could just theoretically warp Itachi to another dimension and just starve him to death. Itachi doesn't have a s/t tech so there is no way to escape it.

You obviously can't read:sy::sy:
 

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These arguments in favor of Itachi are weak. Let's think about this rationally for a second.

First of all, Tobi did indeed say that if Itachi knew everything about him he may have been in trouble, but do not forget that this came in reference to a SNEAK ATTACK made by Itachi. Tobi never said that Itachi could beat him in a fight. But after a sneak attack, said that if Itachi had known more about him then his sneak attack might have worked. This in no way means Itachi could beat Tobi 1on1

Secondly, even if Itachi were to know all of Tobi's secrets, saying that Itachi is better than Tobi because of this is still weak. Seriously, how many fights have we seen where one fighter already knew EVERYTHING about their opponent from the beginning? What you people are basically saying is if you give Itachi an unfair advantage, he would be stronger than Tobi. I could turn right around and say if Tobi knows everything about Itachi, then Tobi is stronger. See the foolishness in that? I'll quote Itachi and say this: "Every jutsu has a weakness". Itachi knowing all the secrets to Tobi's techniques would make him stronger, but if thats the only way Itachi could beat Tobi then you are actually doing more to hurt Itachi's rep than add to it by saying this

And Tobi did attack Konoha while Itachi was born, but if you are asking why he didn't attack while Itachi was older? I'll give you two reasons why:

1. He already tried once, and failed
2. He would've been attacking KONOHA. That's every ninja in konoha vs Tobi. Itachi would've been the least of his concerns.

Bottom line, Itachi knew fully well that Tobi intended on trying to use Sasuke after he died, but instead of trying to kill him in a one on one fight, he tried to hit him with a sneak attack. Ask yourself what ninja in their right mind would risk failing with a sneak attack if they knew they had the strength to kill the person anyway? Itachi didn't try to kill Tobi 1on1 because he knew he couldn't do it. It's that simple. Itachi is one of the greatest characters in the manga. And the fight wouldn't be easy for Tobi (Susanoo, yata mirror, the sword), but Tobi obviously had ways of dealing with this (S/T jutsu is pretty hard to overcome without speed). Tobi>Itachi, bottom line.
 

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You obviously can't read:sy::sy:
Lol, yeah I read it wrong. It doesn't change anything though. Tobi would defeat Itachi in most cases. If Itachi is prepared or has knowledge, its possible that Itachi could win.
 

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Tobi IS scared of Itachi. Tobi didn't go near Sasuke or the village because Itachi was alive and would figure out his plans in such.
 

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i cant imagine itachi beating Tobi at any point throughout the manga but minato made him his bitch....j/k seriously tho tobi at any point defeats itachi low-med diff because if you remember tobi negated amaterasu pretty easily when he was talking to sasuke
 

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Tobi didn't attack konoha because he had a deal with itachi during the uchiha massacre,not to attack konoha...and again itachi could reveal his part in killing the uchihas to sasuke thus spoiling tobi's plan in using sasuke..another reason was that tobi already knew itachi's days(due to his illness) were numbered.remember he wasn't surprised that sasuke beat itachi even though he knew itachi was by far stronger than sasuke at that time..tobi is a patient man..
 

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It hasn't been shown that Tobi even has the mangekyou. And yes, Tobi > Itachi
 

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its funny.... itachi can defeat tobi, itachi has many ways and one of them is KA... (only if itachi werent being a good guy and instead worked for himself then he would be having shishui's eyes)
 

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No. He did attack when Itachi was alive; Naruto's birth. Tobi was collecting the Bijuu, he had no reason to attack Konoha after that.

itachi was 5 at that time!!!!!!!!
 

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You never be 2 sure as Itachi's Susano caries 2 spirit items the sword of Totsuka which seals you puts you in eternal genjutsu if made contact with and Yata mirror repels every attack you throw at it. But it can still go both ways because he can touch Tobi only when Tobi's about to attack.
 

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i cant imagine itachi beating Tobi at any point throughout the manga but minato made him his bitch....j/k seriously tho tobi at any point defeats itachi low-med diff because if you remember tobi negated amaterasu pretty easily when he was talking to sasuke

huh?! He negated amaterasu easily? Lol last time i checked tobi was caught in amaterasu for a while and we don't know how he evaded it, for all we know he could've used izanagi...
 

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In a one on one fight where neither can run away, Itachi might be able to beat Tobi considering what Konan managed to do. The reason he didn't do this is that Tobi CAN run away, and at the speed of light. The second Itachi tips his hand he calls down the combined might of Akatsuki on his head without managing to accomplish anything.

On the other hand, if Tobi could have eliminated Itachi, he most definitely would have.
 

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Itachi had goals in which held him back from his true potential, on top of that he was deathly ill during the time of three tomoe tobi. If itachi just desired power, and was truly evil he could have killed sasuke, implanted his eyes and awakened his own EMS. And he wouldn't have had to waste shisuis eye. Itachi and tobi had there reasons for not fighting. The main one was they both acknowledged eachothers power, and they didn't to risk anything by fighting one another when they both had such drastic goals. Its as simple as that.
 

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you just assume itachi didn't DARE to fight tobi
rofl assumptions
 

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I say tobi>itachi, why you ask because tobi was using itachi as a pawn. And if you say itachi>tobi 3(tomoe) then please state how. NOT WHY but HOW. like he uses amaterasu against tobi blahblahblah
 
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