It's not hard to be better than a character that has very few feats and only one appearance that mattered. Also, didn't the Second Mizukage tie with Muu? The same Muu that like 90% of these forums revere because of two abilities?
Proof that Second Mizukage > Second Hokage (Actual Explanation Inside)
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Negative Knight
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He only needs the same amount of water he had in the first place to reform his shape, now that's just common shape
however if he manages to turn the water into millions of water droplets, then i see your point.
But that seems out of the capacity of even him, controlling millions separate of things at one time
Its not teleporting, its just going into a body of water and then selecting a place in the water which is now a part of his increased volume. Then just resolidifiy anywhere in his new increased volume body and unmerging from the body of water.
Hopefully you understand
Ill give this to the 2nd Mizukage considering Tobirama's water and taijutsu is rendered useless for the most part as you stated already.
And i dont think much of Edo Tensei because we dont know what shinobi 2nd Hokage had in his arsenal, and there were few ninjas before them at the time (Madara, Hashi) that could change the tide of the battle if summoned.
Not much of his s/t and sensory is known either, but ill give this edge to Tobirama because he will more than likely know which is the fake clam and clone if he does the finger no jutsu .. lol jk . But yea
Overall 2nd Mizukage takes this tho
And i dont think much of Edo Tensei because we dont know what shinobi 2nd Hokage had in his arsenal, and there were few ninjas before them at the time (Madara, Hashi) that could change the tide of the battle if summoned.
Not much of his s/t and sensory is known either, but ill give this edge to Tobirama because he will more than likely know which is the fake clam and clone if he does the finger no jutsu .. lol jk . But yea
Overall 2nd Mizukage takes this tho
As with my last Thread this is a thread exploring a largely underrated/not talked about Kage of History and pitting him against a very well known Kage to show how strong this unknown Kage really is.
Not much is known about Tobirama so this thread is already :/
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also Nothing is faster than FTG. FTG is instant, INSTANT. Instant is not a matter of speed. if you are trying to say its instant fair enough.
Also if you are making a Vs thread you might as well add Edo Tensei to the equation. Not adding it shows our lack of knowledge on the 2nd Hokage. This therefore makes this thread :/ again.
Not much is known about Tobirama so this thread is already :/
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also Nothing is faster than FTG. FTG is instant, INSTANT. Instant is not a matter of speed. if you are trying to say its instant fair enough.
Also if you are making a Vs thread you might as well add Edo Tensei to the equation. Not adding it shows our lack of knowledge on the 2nd Hokage. This therefore makes this thread :/ again.
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Good point on the thread, +rep... The only problem is we know next to nothing about the second hokage's power/techs, so we can't really say for sure. But from what we do know it seems that the second mizukage would be able to take it because of his immunity to water techs, genjutsu, and joki boy technique....
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By very well known i meant reputation but a fair pointAs with my last Thread this is a thread exploring a largely underrated/not talked about Kage of History and pitting him against a very well known Kage to show how strong this unknown Kage really is.
Not much is known about Tobirama so this thread is already :/
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also Nothing is faster than FTG. FTG is instant, INSTANT. Instant is not a matter of speed. if you are trying to say its instant fair enough.
Also if you are making a Vs thread you might as well add Edo Tensei to the equation. Not adding it shows our lack of knowledge on the 2nd Hokage. This therefore makes this thread :/ again.
Also FTG is instant? ah ok then the two techniques should be the same speed
Also Edo tensei, even if you include it into the equation im not sure he would be able bring back notable shinobi without grave digging which i doubt he would do
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he needs the same amount of water and only that "water" "that he transformed into..
so if tobirama separates that "water" and throws it away all in opposite direction, then how would he regain his shape ?
Also, i got what you meant by teleport in the first place, its jsut that you made that up and it is not possible.
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Fanboys do this kind of thing and so don't be a fanboy,
Negative Knight
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You know i've seen your profile and it seems like you pretty much flame everyone
I know my logic is hard to understand because it requires a IQ in double digits to comprehend it at the least.
If you have nothing to postive to contribute, you know other threads are lacking in flamers, i'll show you where they are if you haven't had your fill of being a idiot on my thread
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Lol its just your argument is saying mine's is fake:shrug:
dude what are you saying
Can't counter it?
what is there to counter?
Akatsuki wise guy
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Honestly tobirama is nothing special mei was able to do the water dragon jutsu with basically no hand seals. HIs s/t tech is not gonna help against infinite explosions.
*deep breath*
Tobirama > 2nd mizukage.
i will try to explain to you in a easier way,
if 2nd mizukge transforms into water to dodge any attack by tobirama,
he will just divide that water into like 20 parts and throw it in different directions,
since 2nd mizukage can't stabilize now , tobirama already won the battle.
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I totally agree with you! I think he can so own the 2nd hokage... He has that bomb thing and idk how the 2nd hokage would go against that but just keep teleporting away.. Then he can down half of the allied forces army..
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See now that's what i'm talking about
Ok if any of the parts go into a nearby water source he can stablizie (high unlikely i know)
His only other 2 ways are to make sure the battle is on a water source by leading the Second Hokage (the second won't mind as he will think it is a big advantage to him if he doesn't know about the Hozuki Technique)
If this indeed happened then he would simply soak into the soil, go deep enough and reunite with enough water to resolidifiy. But if the Second Hokage indeed this, he wouldn't win, he would simply end the fight prematurely.
But answer me this, would he be able to do this whilst under a genjutsu and being chased around by a infinite exploding clone for the entire battle?
Rike Senju
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You have valid points for the mizukage but I believe that we have to little information on the 2nd hokage to be able to make a fair comparison/battle scenario.
hey i just read on naruto wiki, they don't transform into water in hydrificatio n technique,
i said earlier also, i didn't knew much about 2nd mizukage, so i read naruto wiki and then i realised , that teleport thingy is not possible, because he don't transform into water, but a different liquid.
also it is impossible to resolidify for him if his liquid molecules get scattered..
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In Tobirama's time, it was all about senju vs uchiha and he had fought many uchiha battle ,with his bro hashi.
we all know that.
And we also know uchiha's are well known for their genjutsu , so tobirama must have a counter for the genjutsus, or he wouldn't have survived any uchiha battle.
And 2nd mizukage haven't shown any sensory abilities (as far as my knowledge)
so water clones can fool him.
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