Tobi's S/T tech is THE greatest technique ever witnessed in the manga

[Jade Uchiha]

He got caught off guard.
Plus that was complete plot.... for dramatic effect.

No he wasn't, he meant to make himself intangible, but for some reason this didn't work while naruto was in km mode.

 

[TobisPawn]

No he wasn't, he meant to make himself intangible, but for some reason this didn't work while naruto was in km mode.

Tobi's gone intangible through KM Naruto before...

OT: Agreed for the most part. Tobi's S/T techs are probably one of the best moves in the series. And for some people: FTG beating Tobi's S/T techs doesn't make it a better tech overall.

I guess your fangsams don't let you think clearly. :sy:

Minato's Flying Thunder God is faster than Tobi's S/T. Ok. The only reason Tobi's surpasses Minato's is because he doesn't require seals. Do you understand that?

Tobi's S/T techs overall are better than Minato's. And speed without S/T techs isn't necessarily a perfect counter to Tobi seeing that he reacted to V2 (V1?) A from a close distance and 7 Gates Guy and Kakashi.

Until we see someone break through the perfect susano'o, that has tailed beast level chakra, you are just speculating that Hashirama broke through it... from what we saw, Itachi's susano'o blocked kirin. Kirin is possibly in the top 5 jutsu shown in the manga, transcending normal chakra and using nature energy. It's no stretch of the imagination to realize nothing can break perfect susano'o.

Sure, Tobi can dodge, but so can Sakura. Sakura isn't a good defensive ninja, she just doesn't let herself get it. There's a subtle difference between Tobi's 'defence' and susano'o.

lol Tobi can warp into Susanoo

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Doesn't matter.... Tobi's s/t techniques won't be enough to stop me.

 

[Dryman91]

He got caught off guard.
Plus that was complete plot.... for dramatic effect.

Wrong^^^^ cuz in the next chapter after that one, tobi even was wondering how he could not have fazed through naruto. And naruto didnt leave even a crack on his mask.

 

[TobisPawn]

Indeed. With that jutsu alone, you could possibly fight top tiers. Give it tools like the EMS or Rinnegan and you're invincible.

For example, Tobi has shown that he can make things he touches intangible. Imagine Gedo Mazo fighting and Tobi making Gedo Mazo intangible when an incoming jutsu is on its way.
Speaking of intangibility, it would also completely eliminate strategies to hit the user within jutsu like Susnaoo.

Though one of the greatest jutsu, it seems to only be really great when combined with other jutsu. For example Tobi has shown he can use other jutsu while being intangible - the Outer Path chains - so that can easily compensate for Shinra Tensei's 5 second window. That makes Tobi almost unbeatable.

Spot on.

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

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Ok so 1st of all this is being taken out of context....guy and Kakashi were trying to make him go intangible so they could grab Naruto, they weren't actually trying to hit him!
2nd- the pic that was shown where Tobis mask got cracked was becuase he couldn't phase thru naruto in that form....clearly stated by tobi!

 

[Jaded210]

its obvious tobis technique is 2 techniques..intangibility being one and teleportation being another.
as yall state yalls selves he has to become tangible to teleport meaning he has to stop that attack
also its not really tobis attack cuz he stole the eyes lmao..
anyways this thread can go on forever cuz everyone has stated facts/opinions and no one is gonna change their mind lol

 

[Munboy]

Ok so 1st of all this is being taken out of context....guy and Kakashi were trying to make him go intangible so they could grab Naruto, they weren't actually trying to hit him!
2nd- the pic that was shown where Tobis mask got cracked was becuase he couldn't phase thru naruto in that form....clearly stated by tobi!

Tobi's mask was never shown to be cracked. Tobi just said he should have slipped through Naruto, however if he couldn't phase through Bijuu-Mode Naruto, he shouldn't have been able to do so in the picture where Gai and Kakashi saved him.

 

[KuroKaze]

Tobi's S/T is better. FTG is faster.
Both of these have a small amount of weaknesses though.
For example, Tobi's S/T could be countered by an instantanious teleportation technique. I'm not so sure if Raw Speed would counter it though, since it seems like the area gets pulled in like a black hole when he sucks people in. Which speed wouldn't overcome but teleportation can. Intangibility could be countered by any technique that attacks nonstop for more than 5 minutes. An example of this was Konan's technique that spams explosions for 10 minutes straight. I think if Tobi's intangibility runs out in the 5 minutes, he could turn intangible in the next second but even then, that would be useless if he's being spammed nonstop since the moment it wears off, he won't have a second to turn intangible again. Konan's technique and Minato's FTG just fit the situation. Any other person without these two factors would've fallen prey to his S/T. Maybe Nagato's Shinra Tensei would prevent him from being sucked in though if he's fast enough to react.

FTG could be countered by a technique that can affect the Kunai. An example could be Chibaku Tensei that would pull in all its sorroundings which would include the Kunai. If Minato tries to teleport to any other Kunai around that area, he would be teleporting to his death. He would actually have to teleport out of the battlefield in order to survive that.

Tobi's S/T is better to me but unfortunately, FTG ended up being one of its weaknesses. If Tobi's S/T would be exposed to the weaknesses of FTG, it would triumph. If FTG were to be exposed to the weaknesses of Tobi's S/T, it would triumph. Well if FTG were to face the same technique Konan used on Tobi, he would have to teleport out of the battlefield. Unlike Tobi though Minato's is instant so he can actually escape it. Different weaknesses but those two are some of the best. Put these two together and then it would be the greatest.

i completely agree with u....

 

[SilverSlick]

FTG and Tobi's S/T migration are the same speed. Though the rate at which Tobi's tech where he sucks someone in is considerably slow, there is no way to counter it unless you have another S/T tech. Minato simply outsmarted him, or lets say he just thought outside the box. Or you could just say Tobi underestimated him. Whatever the reason, it wasn't because of a physical aspect. Anyways, I would have loved to seen Minato control Kurama and fight someone at the same time like Tobi did. It was an obvious strain on his chakra, hence why he was using taijutsu. Just a theory though.

 

[Eishi]

His technique is one of the best in Narutoverse but I prefer Uzumaki clan's sealing technique :ice:

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

Tobi's mask was never shown to be cracked. Tobi just said he should have slipped through Naruto, however if he couldn't phase through Bijuu-Mode Naruto, he shouldn't have been able to do so in the picture where Gai and Kakashi saved him.

My bad yea I just looked that up and tobi says that he couldn't even put a scratch on his mask not that he cracked it.....and yea I wondered about that also, about him phasing thru naruto after he originally couldn't!? Come on

 

[Munboy]

My bad yea I just looked that up and tobi says that he couldn't even put a scratch on his mask not that he cracked it.....and yea I wondered about that also, about him phasing thru naruto after he originally couldn't!? Come on

It is possible that Naruto got him before he noticed; it would be a testament to Naruto's speed.

 

[Sozaa]

ALL fail. Minato required more than just FTG. Fail, you had to resort to plot no jutsu.

You are stupid. First of all, my post essentially agreed with your point. Second of all, Minato "requiring more than just FTG" is irrelevant. The point is, he whooped Tobi's ass while simultaneously defending the village from the Nine Tails. Plot no Jutsu? GTFO loser.

 

[Scryed]

FTG and Tobi's S/T migration are the same speed. Though the rate at which Tobi's tech where he sucks someone in is considerably slow, there is no way to counter it unless you have another S/T tech. Minato simply outsmarted him, or lets say he just thought outside the box. Or you could just say Tobi underestimated him. Whatever the reason, it wasn't because of a physical aspect. Anyways, I would have loved to seen Minato control Kurama and fight someone at the same time like Tobi did. It was an obvious strain on his chakra, hence why he was using taijutsu. Just a theory though.

Perhaps he had to concentrate on keeping the fox under control while at the same time, fighting Minato. That could also be another reason why he didn't use genjutsu since the fox was already under it. It could also just be plot.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Two words: Edo Tensei

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Two words: Edo Tensei

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