The Byakugan Is Quite Suited To Fight The Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (Explained)

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You're right that there is nothing wrong with using feats from the manga to predict other feats but it doesn't make sense that Neji can see with his eyes closed. He could probably sense the movement and chakra of the person and act accordingly but to say that he can see with his eyes open is just makin shit up.

What is being made up?

I will go through it step by step.

When someone closes their eyes, they are not shutting down their eyes, their eyes still work, what they are doing is lowering their eyelids a slightly thin layer of skin over their eyes.

As eye lids aren't transparent people without x-ray can not see, those with x-ray vision on the other hand can see through solids.

Byakugan users have x-ray when Byakugan is activated, hence they can see through their eye lids.

I hope now you understand where I was coming from.
 
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I agree with the counters of Sasukes moves in this thread, pls people read it, all u do is look at the title and comment negativelyand dont read the facts/opinions that this guy is making now i think Sasuke would beat Neji 6 out of 10 times
 

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Uchiha fanboys will never agree.
They don't understand logic
 
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EMS SASUKE would destroy Neji lol. I can't believe people really think that Neji has a chance. Only top tier shinobi aka KAGE LEVEL, S RANK/ROGUE OR JONNINS (Kakashi, Guy, Darui etc) can fight with Sasuke. All the others are fodder for him.

Neji is not even in the top 50 of all time if we consider dead shinobis and ninjas from other villages. This is far from being LOGIC, it's being blind!!!

This is coming from someone who's not a Sasuke fanboy but at least I know what a powerful ninja looks like. Sasuke>>>>Neji. The byakugan is only good for taijutsu. Sasuke is a powerhouse (taijutsu, speed, crazy ninjutsu and genjutsu). Taijutsu alone won't win a fight except if ur Guy, only because of the GATES.
 
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EMS SASUKE would destroy Neji lol. I can't believe people really think that Neji has a chance. Only top tier shinobi aka KAGE LEVEL, S RANK/ROGUE OR JONNINS (Kakashi, Guy, Darui etc) can fight with Sasuke. All the others are fodder for him.

Neji is not even in the top 50 of all time if we consider dead shinobis and ninjas from other villages. This is far from being LOGIC, it's being blind!!!

This is coming from someone who's not a Sasuke fanboy but at least I know what a powerful ninja looks like. Sasuke>>>>Neji. The byakugan is only good for taijutsu. Sasuke is a powerhouse (taijutsu, speed, crazy ninjutsu and genjutsu). Taijutsu alone won't win a fight except if ur Guy, only because of the GATES.

Read the OP and the posts that have been coming in.
 

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1.How will Neji stop an electic current with a single strike?

2.How does Neji avoid electricity in the air around Sasuke to get in range? Is he going to dodge each bolt to strike Sasuke? Imposssible

3.He can dodge vacuum palm, like he dodged Danzo's vacuum bullets.

4.Yes he can still dodge but he can't do anything from distance.

6.And?
Vacuum palm doesn't disrupt chakra, it just applies a physical force. It has never been shown to disrupt chakra or affect chakra points. The only reason he was able to use it to escape Kisame's water prison was because he was able to apply FORCE to the areas that had the least amount of chakra. This is just like how Neji and co escaped from the fat Sound 4 dude's earth prison.

1. Electric current is short range, vacuum palm is short to mid range, therefore electric current will not disrupt Neji, and he can Dodge Sasuke Chidori Spear as it is not atmospheric like Sasukes current.

Yeah my response to took ages as NB stopped working for me last night.

2.I was suggesting that he could due to his ability to observe Sasukes chakra network, but it is a stretch suppose.

Neji could instead envelope himself in his powerful chakra, which has acted as a shield in the past, only excessive force can break the envelope, Susanoo arrow for example.

3. In order for sasuke to Dodge the Vacuum Palm he would need to raise his hand from the ground, that is why I used it as a counter.

4. Yeah that was in response to vegeta disagreeing me that it would be a stalemate.


6. Vacuum Palm uses Byakugan for Precision so that it can strike precisely at vital points, it is a pocket of chakra made from the Vacuum.

Also you state that Vacuum palm is just force, yet that Revolving Heaven is not, how can this be when Vacuum Palm is a targeted Revolving Heaven?

At any rate, Gentle fist requires the expulsion of chakra so that it can penetrate below the skin of the opponent and damage the chakra network.

Vacuum palm can be used to disrupt the chakra flow of the susanoo, as it does to other Ninjutsu the as the susanoo is completely chakra (as are all pure chakra ninjutsu that have taken shape) in humanoid form, the same could be done to a ninjutsu water dragon.

He can spot the weak point of Susanoo and even if it is just force that is applied instead of chakra (just for the sake of us not disputed the same point without end) the weakest point of the Susanoo being disrupted completely will still disrupt the entire form of the Susanoo.




My main worry is the susanoo arrow.

Neji will have a hard time with it if he is at long range from Sasuke, the best thing for Neji to do is stay within mid range as it is hard to use a long range weapon on someone who is evading at mid to short range, also in mid range he can use Vacuum Palm on Sasuke.

Also Sasuke takes more time to aim and fire his susanoo arrow, so even though without a doubt Susanoo arrow is one of the fastest projectiles in NU, Neji's vacuum palm requires, less prep, less chakra and less strain on the body results from it.

Remember the maximum amount of times we have seen Sasuke use is twice in one battle.

Against Sasuke using it once on Kakashi tipped him over the edge, and against Kabuto he only used it twice in the battle, by that time Itachi was in the process of casting izanami, the main battle would be over and Sasuke would deactivate his Susanoo.
 

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MS >>>> Byakugan

EMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Byakugan.

Counter my post if you disagree.

Others have done so and given logical rebuttals I have had to deal with them as much as I could because I support my theory.
 

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neji was getting kiled by zetsu... blame kishi

either way how's neji, a short range fighter, gonna fight sasuke if he can't get close and must hide after walls so he won't get caught in genjutsu? how will he dodge a susano'o arrow afterall?
 

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neji was getting kiled by zetsu... blame kishi

either way how's neji, a short range fighter, gonna fight sasuke if he can't get close and must hide after walls so he won't get caught in genjutsu? how will he dodge a susano'o arrow afterall?

Neji will not fall under an eye contact genjutsu on a one on one with sasuke he is a top class shinobi not looking into the eyes of an uchiha is basic knowledge for top class shinobi's.

A susano arrow can be dodged with speed or a good defence. Neji's heavenly rotation will deflect the susano arrow.
 

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neji was getting kiled by zetsu... blame kishi

either way how's neji, a short range fighter, gonna fight sasuke if he can't get close and must hide after walls so he won't get caught in genjutsu? how will he dodge a susano'o arrow afterall?

Neji had been fighting for like three days non stop, has Sasuke ever fought for more than an hour before he is in serious trouble of death by exhaustion?
 

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Neji will not fall under an eye contact genjutsu on a one on one with sasuke he is a top class shinobi not looking into the eyes of an uchiha is basic knowledge for top class shinobi's.

A susano arrow can be dodged with speed or a good defence. Neji's heavenly rotation will deflect the susano arrow.

Sasukes has only been shown to be able to use it twice max anyway, and if Neji stays in mid range he can disrupt susanoo before the arrow is fired, and at long range Neji's vision is better than Sasukes by far.

At long range he can dodge or defend himself and at close range his main mid range offense attack requires no prep, and Neji's aim is also significantly better than Sasukes.
 

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I think if neji doesn't have the plot going against him, he stands a very good chance of holding his own if not beating him.
 

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I think if neji doesn't have the plot going against him, he stands a very good chance of holding his own if not beating him.

I agree but his timing will need to be spot on at times, like defending against or dodging the susanoo arrow, real tai chi stuff.

Sasuke fortunately can not spam susanoo arrow like he can amaterasu, which Neji should be able to deal with without great danger.

Then he just needs to get in range and double shot Sasuke with Vacuum Palm
once to disrupt the flow of susanoo and another to take advantage of the opening.



Glad to see more threads like this.
 

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Neji had been fighting for like three days non stop, has Sasuke ever fought for more than an hour before he is in serious trouble of death by exhaustion?

Neji wasn't fighting for three days and nights. It was the first day of the war that he was getting scraped by Zetsu's.
 

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Neji wasn't fighting for three days and nights. It was the first day of the war that he was getting scraped by Zetsu's.

Actually if you pay attention, he let the zetsu on his back and figured out what was happening. He could of easily used his chakra to blast it off, but instead learned about its ability. Ignorance at its best.
 

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Actually if you pay attention, he let the zetsu on his back and figured out what was happening. He could of easily used his chakra to blast it off, but instead learned about its ability. Ignorance at its best.

Hmm, I think I need to read back on the war, thanks.
 

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Actually if you pay attention, he let the zetsu on his back and figured out what was happening. He could of easily used his chakra to blast it off, but instead learned about its ability. Ignorance at its best.

Did you really just say that? How ****ing stupid can you be? Why would anyone let the enemy on their back just to see what they were capable of. Neji realized what was happening after Zetsu went on his back to suck his chakra. And then you talk about ignorance. GTFOH with that shit. Go back and read the manga and watch the anime you dumb ****. Does this look like the face of a man who purposely got himself captured?
 
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Did you really just say that? How ****ing stupid can you be? Why would anyone let the enemy on their back just to see what they were capable of. Neji realized what was happening after Zetsu went on his back to suck his chakra. And then you talk about ignorance. GTFOH with that shit. Go back and read the manga and watch the anime you dumb ****.

Why don't you chill.

Fighting someone you have little information on can lead to such events it is not a testament to Neji's strength and weaknesses as a shinobi in anyway.

He had killed countless zetsu since then and defended the hospitals of the 4th alliance.

You sig is respect yet you do not hesitate to insult others, this is a manga that we all like so why not have some relaxation here.

If you want to insult at least let the insults be witty but calm, those sting more
 

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My reasons why neji is the best candidate out of the konoha 11 to fight sasuke one on one

If this battle was to happen in the show for whatever reason sasuke wins hands down because of plot no jutsu. Whether it be karin saving his ass or anyone else from taka sasuke would win.

But I am talking about a complete one on one situation with no one to heal, help or give sasuke a chakra boost. Here are my reasons why neji can defeat sasuke one on one but it would be extreme high difficulty

Let's start with the dangerous threats from sasuke:

Genjutsu:

Would be useless against neji in a one on one against sasuke despite common rule being to run on a one on one situation with an uchiha because of their genjutsus. There are two reason why genjutsu’s would be useless against neji:

1) Neji will not fall under a eye contact genjutsu when it is just him and sasuke

Basic top class shinobi knowledge do not look into the eyes of a sharingan user which means neji does not have to worry about this at all. In a group fight neji may be caught off guard (as seen with A against madara) but on a one on one it is just you and your opponent no distractions. Neji is not hot headed enough to lose his cool and forget this he is also a top class shinob, a jounin, a elite hyuga clan member he will not fall under a genjutsu which just evolves eye contact.

2) Sasuke’s genjutsu is nowhere near the level of itachi’s tsukuyomi

Let's say neji does fall under a genjutsu (highly highly unlikely neji is top class shinobi, a jounin from konoha which would know more about the sharingan then other villages list goes on for reason why he wouldn't on a one on one)
Hyuga have excellent chakra control they are the best candidates to break out of a genjutsu then any other shinobi along with jinjurki's. Lucky for neji sasuke's genjutsu is nothing compared to itachi's tsukuyomi which means neji with his excellent chakra control can break out of it. (My main reason is he want get caught in one)

So I am going to state in a one on one neji will most likely not fall under a genjutsu and if he does he can break out of it. (If this was itachi's no chance neji is done for but once again I don't think he would get into one he is not hot headed and uses his brain)


Amaterasu:

Neji with his byakugan can see all chakra points in the body as well as chakra itself. When a shinobi is going to perform a jutsu the byakugan can see the chakra build up. This means that neji out of anyone else would be able to prepare better for amaterasu. Even better then when A was fast enough to dodge amaterasu by seeing it when it was released from sasuke's eye.

Now that neji knows amaterasu is coming neji can do a number of things to counter it:

1)Heavenly rotation: Elite hyuga members can preform heavenly rotation this will protect neji from amaterasu flames as the flames will burn around the chakra and then disperse as the chakra disperses.

2)Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body: A weaker but quicker and easier to perform defence that will push the flames and anything around neji’s body away.

3)Dodge: As I stated he will know amaterasu is coming before any other shinobi would so he has more time to prepare for his counter, he does not have to be as fast as A or BM naruto as he gets the heads up earlier. Amaterasu was also dodged by sasuke running circles around itachi.

So that is 3 counters against amaterasu in the order that would be most effective and most likely for him to use as he knows amaterasu will be coming.



Susano:

This is neji’s only worry when fighting against sasuke but at the same time neji is also the best candidate to disable sasuke from using susano and I will tell you why.

Susano is the user powerful chakra being released and then being materialised. Neji has the ability to block chakra path ways in the body if neji blocks enough chakra path ways sasuke will not be able to form susano.
This solves the biggest problem with destroying a susano which is if it is destroyed the user can just re-activate susano if he has enough chakra. If neji get’s enough chakra points even if sasuke has enough chakra he will not be able to use it to form susano.

This is great but we all know the main problem is what is neji going to do when susano is active. Well this is the tough part.

Neji will have to be on the defence at this point in the battle but lucky for him sasuke cannot keep susano active forever. With his ultimate defence neji can deflect susano arrows and physical punches and sword attacks from sasuke’s susano. So neji will be defending blocking maybe even hiding but as this is a one on one sasuke cannot keep this active forever.

The only way neji can do enough damage on susano to create a direct opening to sasuke just as danzo did in his battle, is getting close to susano and delivering a direct hit from heavenly rotation. This will break susano enough for neji to have access to sasuke and once this path way is open all neji will have to do is get sasuke in a eight trigrams 64 palms. If he is successful susano will be disabled and will be for a while and sasuke cannot activate susano right away as his chakra flow and path ways will be blocked.

If Neji manages this then it becomes sasuke's kenjutsu and taijutsu vs neji taijutsu

This is the worst case sceniory for sasuke because if he cannot form susano and his chakra path ways are blocked it is basically sasuke’s kenjutsu and taijutsu with his sharingan perception vs neji taijutsu. This is where neji would own sasuke, every blow neji delivers will either block sasuke’s chakra path ways or damage sasuke’s internal organs.

So basically if neji can disables sasuke’s susano via blocking enough of his chakra path ways neji wins. Of course if this battle ever was to happen it would be much harder then I have stated which is why I say extremely high difficultly for neji. Sasuke would probably beat neji 6 times out of 10 but neji defeating sasuke is not impossible, as I have shown in this thread
 
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