The Byakugan Is Quite Suited To Fight The Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (Explained)

[Strict]

Are we now talking about the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and its perfect Susanoo? Stop with this baseless hype, just don't waste your time because everybody knows that the Sharingan is stronger.

All main villains are using the Sharingan, whether Tobis Jikugan Ido Sharingan or Madaras and Sasukes EMS, just like the Main heroes are either Sharingan user (Itachi, Kakashi) or using some other power like from the Bijus. Did you see a Byakugan user anywhere, except from the fodders under the 100.000 other Fodder Shinobi in the Shinobi war?

You know, where the Byakugans place is actually, where the fodder are.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Are we now talking about the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and its perfect Susanoo? Stop with this baseless hype, just don't waste your time because everybody knows that the Sharingan is stronger.

All main villains are using the Sharingan, whether Tobis Jikugan Ido Sharingan or Madaras and Sasukes EMS, just like the Main heroes are either Sharingan user (Itachi, Kakashi) or using some other power like from the Bijus. Did you see a Byakugan user anywhere, except from the fodders under the 100.000 other Fodder Shinobi in the Shinobi war?

You know, where the Byakugans place is actually, where the fodder are.

The byakugan overall may be fodder but there are some elite hyuga members who are not fodder. The only reason the byakugan looks so fodder is because the hyuga has not been wiped out. If there was only neji and hinata it would look better but fodders make it look worse.

And the reason why people outside the hyuga do not have the byakugan is because the hyuga have methods for not letting the byakugan fall into members outside of the clan. The cloud of tried maybe times but have failed. Ao probably thought a fodder

 

[Strict]

The byakugan overall may be fodder but there are some elite hyuga members who are not fodder. The only reason the byakugan looks so fodder is because the hyuga has not been wiped out. If there was only neji and hinata it would look better but fodders make it look worse.

The whole Hyuga Clan is strong and nobody denies, but in front of the two main Doujutsus of the Manga its power is nothing before. Therefore the strongest Hyugas are taking place under the fodders during the main villains and heroes are neither Sharingan or Rinnegan users or have the power boost of a Biju, like Naruto with his BM. Look at Hinata with her Byakugan, who was one shot by only Deva Path. I accept your opinion but let us not get absurd by comparing it to the MS or let alone EMS.

 

[Maunten]

Kakashi was unable to use Kamui against Sasuke offensively because Sasuke's arrows were too fast and he had to pay attention to them. Why do you think Danzo had to use Izanagi to dodge the arrows. And we're talking about EMS not 3 tomoe or MS. Kakashi can only use Kamui a total of 6 times while Sasuke can use the arrows about 8 - 10 times. Don't forget that when Kakashi was talking to Itachi that he had asked how far had you fallen into the dark which means that Kakashi's eyesight is horrible when using MS. Also, Kakashi is not an Uchiha so sharingan takes away 2/5 of his chakra so MS would take away 3/5 which would kill his chakra reserves.

Right the think is Kakashi kamui is shockingly fast, and he could have used it to kill Sasuke instantly ripping a whole in his susanoo in the process, or doing it before asuke formed his susanoo.

 

[Sephy100]

Neji collapsed after using the Byakugan straight for days, I will address the rest of your post soon brb.

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It was the first day of war.

 

[Maunten]

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It was the first day of war.

Hmm I can't find it, I'll look later, need to look up more from the first two days of the war.

Even if it was the first day -__-.....It was still after prolonged use for hours of non stop sensing at fighting.

Sasuke's stamina still does not compare.

 

[Sephy100]

Right the think is Kakashi kamui is shockingly fast, and he could have used it to kill Sasuke instantly ripping a whole in his susanoo in the process, or doing it before asuke formed his susanoo.

If Kamui is shockingly fast then why did Deidara lose only his arm. Look Neji is a good fighter but he just cannot beat Sasuke. Sasuke's attack base is way to large for Neji to handle. And do you think Neji would stand a chance against Danzo or Deidara? Would Neji be able to survive the Raikage's attacks or even lay a scratch on him or even take his arm? Would Neji force Itachi to use Susanoo as a last line of defense? Neji just cannot win against Sasuke.

 

[Maunten]

The whole Hyuga Clan is strong and nobody denies, but in front of the two main Doujutsus of the Manga its power is nothing before. Therefore the strongest Hyugas are taking place under the fodders during the main villains and heroes are neither Sharingan or Rinnegan users or have the power boost of a Biju, like Naruto with his BM. Look at Hinata with her Byakugan, who was one shot by only Deva Path. I accept your opinion but let us not get absurd by comparing it to the MS or let alone EMS.

Read the first post and counter it please,

Also do not talk about Madara or PS, as he is a freak of nature even by Uchiha standards.

 

[Maunten]

If Kamui is shockingly fast then why did Deidara lose only his arm. Look Neji is a good fighter but he just cannot beat Sasuke. Sasuke's attack base is way to large for Neji to handle. And do you think Neji would stand a chance against Danzo or Deidara? Would Neji be able to survive the Raikage's attacks or even lay a scratch on him or even take his arm? Would Neji force Itachi to use Susanoo as a last line of defense? Neji just cannot win against Sasuke.

That was before kakashi trained it, his kamui now is fast enough to warp a projectile susanoo arrow, one of the faster projectiles in NU history.

 

[Sephy100]

Hmm I can't find it, I'll look later, need to look up more from the first two days of the war.

Even if it was the first day -__-.....It was still after prolonged use for hours of non stop sensing at fighting.

Sasuke's stamina still does not compare.

Sasuke can use 3 tomoe sharingan for at least 8 hours. And your sentence would hold weight if he fought high-powered fighters. If I fight 100 fodder soldiers for 3 hour would that compare to fighting Kage level opponents? And Sasuke defeated 100 fodder soldiers by himself as well as using the sharingan and not getting blood on himself. Sasuke's stamina is tiers above Neji's.

 

[Maunten]

Awesome Thread Mauten and i'm glad its one of the hottest

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Check out my Second Mizukage > Second Hokage Thread

Also i'll be checking out commenting on this thread regularly and getting involved in the Debate

Hopefully you become a regular on my thread too

Cool thanks, I'll check it out.

 

[Guildmage]

Pretty much agree with the topic.... it shows counters..... The MS user is the one attacking the Byakugan one is simply countering...... The question now is........ Does the Byakugan user has what it takes to get close to the MS user and kick his butt? Honestly I doubt it.

GOOD POINTS YOU GOT HERE.

 

[Sephy100]

That was before kakashi trained it, if his kamui now is fast enough to stop a projectile susanoo arrow, one of the faster projectiles in NU history.

No you're right about him training it but if Sasuke was healthy Kakashi would've died. Kakashi didn't know about Susanoo so he had no idea about it's techniques or weaponry. Not to mention the swords that Sasuke has and Sasuke can use jutsu's in Susanoo and he can move on home inside Susanoo.

 

[Sephy100]

There's 21 members but I'm the only one making an argument for EMS being better than Byakugan. Thats crazy lol

 

[Maunten]

Pretty much agree with the topic.... it shows counters..... The MS user is the one attacking the Byakugan one is simply countering...... The question now is........ Does the Byakugan user has what it takes to get close to the MS user and kick his butt? Honestly I doubt it.

GOOD POINTS YOU GOT HERE.

Thank ehehe ,

I do mention how Neji can attack the Susanoo using a mid range Gentle Fist tech. which puts him in a position that is too far for the susanoo arms to reach and close enough for Long range weapons to be harder to use efficiently, though susanoo arrow is still a huge danger.

Neji would have to use Vacuum Palm as quickly as possible.

There's 21 members but I'm the only one making an argument for EMS being better than Byakugan. Thats crazy lol

Why is it crazy are my points absurd?

Btw this thread is not about Byakugan being better than EMS.

It is about it being better than MS, and good enough to be able to beat EMS.

I already said if Neji won it would be with High difficulty due to the required degree of accuracy in the timing.

Sasuke can use 3 tomoe sharingan for at least 8 hours. And your sentence would hold weight if he fought high-powered fighters. If I fight 100 fodder soldiers for 3 hour would that compare to fighting Kage level opponents? And Sasuke defeated 100 fodder soldiers by himself as well as using the sharingan and not getting blood on himself. Sasuke's stamina is tiers above Neji's.

Byakugan is stronger than three tomoe.

 

[Maunten]

flcl724

You don't have to stay on this thread if you don't want to.

 

[soulreaper11]

sorry but i dis agree their is only two ways to defeat these Op uchihas
1.out number them
2.have a tailed beast and full control
3.get them when they are handicap

 

[Maunten]

I don't think you read the post.

 

[Sephy100]

Thank ehehe ,

I do mention how Neji can attack the Susanoo using a mid range Gentle Fist tech. which puts him in a position that is too far for the susanoo arms to reach and close enough for Long range weapons to be harder to use efficiently, though susanoo arrow is still a huge danger.

Neji would have to use Vacuum Palm as quickly as possible.



Why is it crazy are my points absurd?

Btw this thread is not about Byakugan being better than EMS.

It is about it being better than MS, and good enough to be able to beat EMS.

I already said if Neji won it would be with High difficulty due to the required degree of accuracy in the timing.



Byakugan is stronger than three tomoe.

I'm not saying your thread is crazy. I'm saying that it's crazy that I'm the only one saying anything(right now) in Sasuke's defense. And please read the title of the thread. It is saying Byakugan is suited to fighting EMS. Neji can attack Susanoo but that doesn't mean it will harm Susanoo. The only way to hurt Susanoo is to drag the user out of Susanoo, use sound to disrupt chakra flow, or use a high powered attack to break Susanoo. Also, Sasuke knows blaze release which would burn Neji to a crisp(maybe). Sasuke can also use Amaterasu as a a defense and even Kabuto said that Sasuke used the best offense as the best defense. And 3 tomoe is not better than byakugan because it was 3 tomoe sharingan that saw through Itachi's genjutsu and forced Itachi to bring out Susanoo. Neji just cannot win.

 

[blackstar9]

+ rep great thread . Your argument was presented well ! The hyuuga is the strongest clan in the leaf . And shouldnt be underestimated. I agree that byakugan is better suited than most, to deal with sasuke ems abilities!!! But im not saying neji> sasuke because he has other jutsu ,summoning,fire,lighting that dont require his ems.