Stating the Obvious - Tobirama is the Weakest Hokage!

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

*Sigh* You don't know shit about Tobirama. stfu

This ^^^
So far we only know that he created a prototype of Edo Tensei, he had the first S/T technique and is a master Suiton user. He also is a Senju, so that's about it. From these alone I would put him at top 10, but I can't cause I don't even know half of what he has to offer. So how how can you say hes the weakest .... SMH:sy:

 

[Cascade]

This ^^^
So far we only know that he created a prototype of Edo Tensei, he had the first S/T technique and is a master Suiton user. He also is a Senju, so that's about it. From these alone I would put him at top 10, but I can't cause I don't even know half of what he has to offer. So how how can you say hes the weakest .... SMH:sy:

well if u think so it must be true...SMH...:sy:

 

[Gouryuuka]

Tobirama has not even been shown in the series yet to his full extent. But from what we know from part I, his Suiton mastery is extremely crazy. He created the Edo Tensei as well and also was revered as a master of S/T ninjutsu. Those factors alone make him a pretty strong Hokage.

It's not wise to compare Tobirama to the other Hokages yet because his strength has yet to be touched upon. So until we find out just how powerful he is, he is neither stronger than or weaker than one. For all we know, he could be stronger than Minato. But analyzing his history, he lived in the same time as his brother and Madara. He was still skilled enough to be alive above all the other Uchiha and Senju below him to make it as the Second Hokage.

 

[Shame]

Sorry if this is sorta poorly strung together - im a little drunk while making this thread...

Note: THIS is NOT a Hashi Vs. Hiruzen Thread - PLEASE take hate/flame ELSEWHERE

I will go in order of Hokage to signifiy each Kage's power and significance in order to prove that Tobirama is the weakest Hokage ever!

Hashirama:
Praised by madara s being legendary - Tobirama is detailed to be damaging to the landscape of the world - he has total control over different tailed beasts through his wood release technique - and further sealing techniques.
He is also known to have healing abilities as Madara mentions that Tsunade's Yin release technique is very similair to that of Hashirama's healing abilities...
The wood release is a unique abilitiy that makes Hashirama> Tobirama...

Hiruzen:
Praised as the god of shinobi - Hiruzen's knowledge of ninjutsu and abilities are surpassed by few (not a hashi vs hiruzen thread!!) - he was able to take on Oro + 1st + 2nd all at the same time - and if they had not of been Edo - he would have taken them out through...even something as small as a paper bomb.
How an old man - not in his prime - managed to take out two former Hokage's + oro is totally beyond my understanding but somehow he managed it - albiet by the exchange for his life through RDS (and his trump card)...
IF hiruzen had been at prime - he would have had a much easier time - being able to combat edo with his shadow clones - the observing anbu, hiruzens summon, and even hiruzen admit to this.
This is true demonstration of his power and deserves note!

Minato:
Minato is ultimately a baw5
He creates the Rasengan, FTG, and much MUCH more - (RDS) - he also takes down the 9 tails and manages to save the village through that. He takes on Tobi headon - and seems to do it pretty easily with his Time space (even after admitting the other was more advanced) - and uses his FTG to the full effect...
Rasengan - a technique used further by his son - is further developed into an awesome technique - the Rasenshuriken - an ability which would definitly not have been created if not for minato.
Since the rasengan was based on the TBB naruto would have also not learned how to harness the ability of the TBB with Kurama - and access the ability of both negative and positive forms of chakra for the TBB

A true demonstration of the scale of Minato's power lies in his foresight - and understanding/creation of the FTG...
Someone with his abilities manages to send a TBB to a safer place - not destroying the village...

Furthermore - Minato has the foresight to implant a small amount of kushina and his own essence into the RDS seal in order to aid Naruto in the future...
im pretty sure i didnt need to say all of that about minato because so many people are in love with him - but it was definitly worth it <3

Tsunade:
Tsunade is the person who implemente mediacl ninja into regular teams - she is the reason that so many ninja are still alive to fight another day!
She inherited the abilities of Yin Release techniques from her grandfather - and therefore became and extremely powerful opponent against Edo-madara - even breaking his Susano'o - an almost impossible feat...
She is truley a perfect choice for Kage - maybe not handling the paper work so well - but definitly being able to support her village where it really counted...even in comparison to the kage of other village such as mei or Garaa who lost faith in their abilities early on.
Tsunade's summons and therefore mass healing also compliments her abilities and enables her to be reinforced as a truley strong opponent - and DEFINITLY stronger than that of Tobirama...
Did i mention she was trained by the 3rd Hokage making her a SANNIN - and ONE of the STRONGEST ninja of ALL TIME!?
Tobirama hasnt had to deal with half the crap that Tsunade has in her time as Kage - INCLUDING the war! :sy:


To my knowledge - all Tobirama did was aid = not even major role = Hashi with creation of leaf...Create the Edo - which is causing endless problems this far into the series - and (as powerscaling is lessened in Part 1) - create water from nothing - which is a little feat for some ninja...

One of the only ninja able to use water element where there is no water yeah that means nothing at all he can single handedly stop fire element with ease. Beside Amaterasu.

 

[nomadenbug]

he invented edo tensei jutsu, thats somethin. he live in bloody war era n become hokage. thats really somethin. He could perform powerful water-style techniques in areas that lacked of water by creating his own water out of thin air or producing it from his mouth, and perform some of the most complex water-style techniques, with a single hand seal, thats awesome.

tobirama < tsunade? intellegence level = monkey.

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

So u edit my post then say ur not mad? My goodness ur stupid

lol im pretty sure i was joking...and also i changed the lists to what I accepted as the correct order..because it amused me, and you seemed to get a lil mad bro........seriously, why r u mad bro? cuz i edited ur post?:shrug:
my list correction speaks for itself...

 

[shogun973]

he is weakest based hokage but by far the smartest

 

[Rariatto]

Tobirama is Senju.
Senju are weak.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

well if u think so it must be true...SMH...:sy:

What I mean is we only know the general idea of what tobirama has to offer, we don't have the exact details of his techniques. Though his arsenal sounds super OP hence prototype edo tensei, prowess envolving suiton which is similar to kisame , a supposedly op S/T technique and he has senju blood which makes every thing hax. We don't know the exact details, so we can't just assume. But just from looking at it he has the potential to be at least the 3rd strongest but that is just my opinion. Because it's pure speculation and giving him a rank, or what you imply as the lowest rank/weakest hokage is just unfair. Because we don't know jack sh*t about him.

 

[Dead Ninja]

Why the hate for Tobirama?

 

[Gatsuuga]

oh! i see what you mean now - i was using 'mastered' as 'perfected' rather than seperating them...but even if the jutsu is mastered - if its not perfected then its not as powerful as it could have been...its like if he made the jutsu to resurrect souls: hypethetically at some stage he would have just had the soul - and realised that he needed the body - at that stage the jutsu is - imperfect - but we dont know enough about him to say something as specific as that - and so him having an 'imperfect' jutsu makes it weaker than what we have seen within the manga

This is similar to the notion that Minato never perfected the rasengan. It is pretty obvious to everyone that he could use it, it's basically him main battle style. But it was an incomplete technique that was supposed to have elemental chakra added to it. So he never perfected the jutsu. The same can be said about Edo tensei and Tobirama.

They mastered it up to the point of being competent and affect at the jutsu, yet they never truly perfected the jutsu. Possible because he didn't have time to work around the loop-hole madara just exploited.

 

[aaniq]

Tobirama is Senju.
Senju are weak.

Then how come senju hashirama defeats uchiha madara????!!!!

 

[uchihax]

LOL , UR SO DUMB? MINATO INVENTED THE SPACETIME TECH? lol 2nd hokage created it, ur so dumb ,

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Then how come senju hashirama defeats uchiha madara????!!!!

Madara merely lost to hashirama just to get Senju dna

 

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[Cascade]

LOL , UR SO DUMB? MINATO INVENTED THE SPACETIME TECH? lol 2nd hokage created it, ur so dumb ,

No ur an idiot...minato created FTG himself...Tobirama created a unidentified
S/T Tech...back to your hole troll...

 

[Sarutobie]

Tobirama may be more versatile than tsunade...but assuming he was the one in place of tsunade when pain attacked konoha..what will he have done against shinrai tensei?..every shinobi is unique but tsunade's medical prowess makes her the ideal hokage

 

[Cascade]

This is similar to the notion that Minato never perfected the rasengan. It is pretty obvious to everyone that he could use it, it's basically him main battle style. But it was an incomplete technique that was supposed to have elemental chakra added to it. So he never perfected the jutsu. The same can be said about Edo tensei and Tobirama.

They mastered it up to the point of being competent and affect at the jutsu, yet they never truly perfected the jutsu. Possible because he didn't have time to work around the loop-hole madara just exploited.

i like the way u think, and ur mentality towards this thread...+rep although im nt sure what an incomplete edo would look like

 

[Killer B]

Tobirama would destroy Tsunade.......how is this even a hotest thread

 

[Cascade]

Tobirama would destroy Tsunade.......how is this even a hotest thread

Because people read the title - not the thread - where ive admitted im wrong LOL and then they make stupid comments...im pretty much just argueing individual points now lol