[Predictions] Naruto Manga 431 Predictions / 430 Discussion

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So you are saying that all of the hokages are from senju clan? I really doubt it...I dont think the third is from senju clan and there arent any refferences about it in the manga either....

Its definitely possible since he was taught by both of them. I mean if it was just one of them then the possiblities woule be far less but why both. Maybe cuz he was related to both of them. Like all the kids in the manga, I'm sure he first learned techniques from his own clan...
 
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So, if Minato is Senju, and Tsunade is Senju, then how are they related. I don't know the series good enough to know their age differences. Could Tsunade and the 4th be siblings, or could she actually be "Gramma Tsunade" to the fox boy?
yeah no jus because someone is senju doesnt mean theyre all related for example if im italian does not mean every italian is related to me lol
 
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Namikaze Minato isn't from Senju wtf! :naruto:
maybee but most probably he is from teh senju clan leaf is supposedly was started by teh uchiha and senju through the process of elimination if ur not uchiha ur senju or a freaking refuge or immigrant lol

im sorry guys i start to many dissputable topics for example that whole cape thing i started FYI i told you guys it was a cape lol
 
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i agree its very mysterious

ALSO i can prove that minato was senju guys here it is the link



if u l look at the bottom panel it says as time passed senju retained supremacy and there it is the faces of the 2nd hokage the 3rd and the 4th boom the 4th is minato narutos dad
just look at my previous post it makes sense and is very feasible
 

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Its definitely possible since he was taught by both of them. I mean if it was just one of them then the possiblities woule be far less but why both. Maybe cuz he was related to both of them. Like all the kids in the manga, I'm sure he first learned techniques from his own clan...
I dont think its impossible. Like Ialready wrote: We can say everything, but we havent seen the mentioning it in manga. Man we can even say that Minato is the son of kyyubi and shukaku... At this point it will be as true as the theory about minato beeing from senju clan...:D:D:D
 

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So, if Minato is Senju, and Tsunade is Senju, then how are they related. I don't know the series good enough to know their age differences. Could Tsunade and the 4th be siblings, or could she actually be "Gramma Tsunade" to the fox boy?
Tsunade isn't Naruto's actual grandmother, that would mean that Tsunade is mother of Minato or Kushina and I highly doubt that.:|

As for Tsunade and Minato being siblings.:confused:

She would've shown feelings for him like she did with Nawaki and Dan.

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Senju and Uchiha started the leaf village but picked up other clans as well like the Huga and the Bug Clan , and Nara Clan and so on ... So basically the Senju are mixed in with all these other clans and ppl of Konoha. There may be be a Senju clan but with all these ppl in one village so close together they are just bound to Mix. Like the Possiblity of Naruto with Hinata or Sakura with Sauske. It is odd though how they Mention the Uchiha clan and alot of other clans but dont talk very much if at all about the Senju Clan. Maybe the Senju clan has thined out and is no more except for ppl who are just part Senju as I have stated above.
 
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Tsunade isn't Naruto's actual grandmother, that would mean that Tsunade is mother of Minato or Kushina and I highly doubt that.:|

As for Tsunade and Minato being siblings.:confused:

She would've shown feelings for him like she did with Nawaki and Dan.

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Just like Anko saying to the Third she misses Minato.
 

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So, if Minato is Senju, and Tsunade is Senju, then how are they related. I don't know the series good enough to know their age differences. Could Tsunade and the 4th be siblings, or could she actually be "Gramma Tsunade" to the fox boy?
this is just a guess I don't have any thing to back it up but I think that Senju Clan was just a clan on regular ppl that where smart talented ninja that was diversified. So everyone in the clan was encouraged to have there own style. There is no blood-line limit in the Senju clan, but every powerful hokage's powers are completely different from the rest.

For example, Uchiha Clan all have the sharingan blood-line limit which is the basis for why they are so powerful. But the first hokage developed a wood element (genius), and the Second was like a water/ice user (genius). The third was Saratobi, who was called the professor and had advance knowledge of jutsu and how to use them (i.e. genius). The forth was also a genius with a lot of S-ranked moves that was so awsome he was know as the yellow flash for his space time jutsu. Tsunade the fifth hokage is like the greatest medical jutsu user ever.

So basically I think the Senju clan is anyone in the village that was not born with a special gift and has to learn to be smart with jutsu or was already a genius. A lot of other clans have their know family clan blood-line limit, like Kiba's wolf pack, Shikamaru's shadow possession, Ino's mind transfer, or Neji's beuakugan (i know i spelled it wrong). But nothing stands out able the Senju clan other then the fact that they pick the leaders.

Basically I am making the point that Senju Clan was more like a group of different people that got together and not a separate branch of human evolution like clans with blood-line limits. Notice thou how none of the other clans have had hokages. It has been different people from different families for the most part.
 
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I think there has been some kind of mix-up. Either kishi made a mistake in reflecting japaneese cultre nither we dont get something concerning japaneese culture. Just think of it. We saw the uchiha clan FULL OF MAN when madara told his story to sasuke. However, naruto's last name is after his mother kushina uzumaki, not his father minato namikaze. That means that all those MAN from uchiha clan couldnt be called uchiha, cuz they would take the last names of their mothers, like in naruto's family. But they ARE uchiha members at the same time. That means that uchiha clan members are not reletives and therefore can marry each other. But they all have the same last name which means that they are relatives. If we continue thinking in that direction we will find another mix-up. Tsunade's last name is HIME. That means that her mothers last name was HIME. That means that Tsunade's father last name was senju. Tsunade's grandfather last name was senju. That means that the wife of the first last name was senju. If we follow the logic of last names based on naruto's family, we can clearly see that the first hokage was not from the senju family. But that is impossible, cuz kishi said that he was the greatest senju ninja.
Just as I wrote at the biginning - a big mix-up.
 

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I think there has been some kind of mix-up. Either kishi made a mistake in reflecting japaneese cultre nither we dont get something concerning japaneese culture. Just think of it. We saw the uchiha clan FULL OF MAN when madara told his story to sasuke. However, naruto's last name is after his mother kushina uzumaki, not his father minato namikaze. That means that all those MAN from uchiha clan couldnt be called uchiha, cuz they would take the last names of their mothers, like in naruto's family. But they ARE uchiha members at the same time. That means that uchiha clan members are not reletives and therefore can marry each other. But they all have the same last name which means that they are relatives. If we continue thinking in that direction we will find another mix-up. Tsunade's last name is HIME. That means that her mothers last name was HIME. That means that Tsunade's father last name was senju. Tsunade's grandfather last name was senju. That means that the wife of the first last name was senju. If we follow the logic of last names based on naruto's family, we can clearly see that the first hokage was not from the senju family. But that is impossible, cuz kishi said that he was the greatest senju ninja.
Just as I wrote at the biginning - a big mix-up.

Your logic doesn't meanmake sense, Naruto is named Uzumaki because they were trying to hide his past. I guess perhaps to protect his identity from anyone outside the hidden leaf village. In case they ried to kidnap him and use him as a weapon againt the Leaf. Thus they also passed the law to prohibit the anyone talking about the fact that he is in fact the vessel of the kyuubi. Naruto's last name is a special case.
 

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Your logic doesn't meanmake sense, Naruto is named Uzumaki because they were trying to hide his past. I guess perhaps to protect his identity from anyone outside the hidden leaf village. In case they ried to kidnap him and use him as a weapon againt the Leaf. Thus they also passed the law to prohibit the anyone talking about the fact that he is in fact the vessel of the kyuubi. Naruto's last name is a special case.
Agreed.
 

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I think there has been some kind of mix-up. Either kishi made a mistake in reflecting japaneese cultre nither we dont get something concerning japaneese culture. Just think of it. We saw the uchiha clan FULL OF MAN when madara told his story to sasuke. However, naruto's last name is after his mother kushina uzumaki, not his father minato namikaze. That means that all those MAN from uchiha clan couldnt be called uchiha, cuz they would take the last names of their mothers, like in naruto's family. But they ARE uchiha members at the same time. That means that uchiha clan members are not reletives and therefore can marry each other. But they all have the same last name which means that they are relatives. If we continue thinking in that direction we will find another mix-up. Tsunade's last name is HIME. That means that her mothers last name was HIME. That means that Tsunade's father last name was senju. Tsunade's grandfather last name was senju. That means that the wife of the first last name was senju. If we follow the logic of last names based on naruto's family, we can clearly see that the first hokage was not from the senju family. But that is impossible, cuz kishi said that he was the greatest senju ninja.
Just as I wrote at the biginning - a big mix-up.
or naruto's mom and dad ain't get married. Or the main branch had more boys, the names don't matter. in regard to Tsunade her mom could have been Senju and her dad Hame.
 
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Your logic doesn't meanmake sense, Naruto is named Uzumaki because they were trying to hide his past. I guess perhaps to protect his identity from anyone outside the hidden leaf village. In case they ried to kidnap him and use him as a weapon againt the Leaf. Thus they also passed the law to prohibit the anyone talking about the fact that he is in fact the vessel of the kyuubi. Naruto's last name is a special case.
ummm...you see there was no referense in manga why his last name is uzumaki. I just wrote a post based on the information we already know. Although it is a bit stupid...:D
 
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I think there has been some kind of mix-up. Either kishi made a mistake in reflecting japaneese cultre nither we dont get something concerning japaneese culture. Just think of it. We saw the uchiha clan FULL OF MAN when madara told his story to sasuke. However, naruto's last name is after his mother kushina uzumaki, not his father minato namikaze. That means that all those MAN from uchiha clan couldnt be called uchiha, cuz they would take the last names of their mothers, like in naruto's family. But they ARE uchiha members at the same time. That means that uchiha clan members are not reletives and therefore can marry each other. But they all have the same last name which means that they are relatives. If we continue thinking in that direction we will find another mix-up. Tsunade's last name is HIME. That means that her mothers last name was HIME. That means that Tsunade's father last name was senju. Tsunade's grandfather last name was senju. That means that the wife of the first last name was senju. If we follow the logic of last names based on naruto's family, we can clearly see that the first hokage was not from the senju family. But that is impossible, cuz kishi said that he was the greatest senju ninja.
Just as I wrote at the biginning - a big mix-up.
i remember it being said that naruto was minato's secret son. because no one except those close to minato knew that kushina was the mother of his child. and i dont think that kushina could deny that its her child. except what naruto said about kurenai

 
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