Itachi is the strongest

[AP2k]

You got me there im not the argumentetive type, thats another reason i would usually not create a thread like this. Ok so let me give you a scenario madara and itachi run into each other itachi intent on killing him, he uses shisuis genjutsu madara does not know he is being controlled and the fight is over before its begun now explain to me how that wouldnt be winning its kinda cheap but still a win. So please explain to me how he would not win

I'd have to imagine that madara has a counter to That genjutsu, that is a weak reply but i can't imagine kishi doesnt have something planned for that, otherwise itachi would have done that. Can't you break out of that? I thought itachi explained that kabuto could break out, im sure madara, who probably has more knowledge of the sharingan then itachi, can break out. Itachi can only use that every ten years, so in a hypothetical 1v1 situation that is seperate from the rest of narutoverse, then yes it would work. But itachi would have to get the crow out if naruto to get shisui's eye, itachi even said he couldn't best jiraiya, but that could have been power scaling.

 

[Ryuu..]

Thread maker thinks people should actually waste time disproving this nonsense. Funny.

 

[Mishima]

Blaze Release is not Kishimoto. Kishimoto said Minato was the strongest. Must i believe in Blaze release a forum guy like me, or in the autor of this manga?

Kishimoto said that in an interview in 2008
SJ = Shonen Jump
MK = Masashi Kishimoto

SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.

He said as for dead shinobi. And he says there are a couple living shinobi that are stronger than him. And Itachi is damn well one of them.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

:sy:
Yeah with shisui's eye he will beat everyone but the eye is situational and unrealistic. If you're going to use that argument to support your statement then there's no helping you.

Madara>itachi
Hashirama>itachi
Nagato>itachi
Kabuto>itachi
Naruto>itachi
Tobi>itachi

Ok so your saying i cant use shisuis eye when considering itachi in vs battles thats like saying no edo tensei for kabuto or jinchurikis and what not for tobi etc. Thats not fair is it?

 

[Uchiha Dan]

Dude... WHat sort of thread is this?

Stop defaming Itachi. Let him REST IN PEACE.

 

[Ryuu..]

BTW, Kishi has never said Minato was the strongest. Those interviews are fake AF.

 

[ItachiSan03]

Kishimoto said that in an interview in 2008
SJ = Shonen Jump
MK = Masashi Kishimoto

SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.

He said as for dead shinobi. And he says there are a couple living shinobi that are stronger than him. And Itachi is damn well one of them.

I think that interview was fake U_U

 

[Bogard]

Kishimoto said that in an interview in 2008
SJ = Shonen Jump
MK = Masashi Kishimoto

SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.

He said as for dead shinobi. And he says there are a couple living shinobi that are stronger than him. And Itachi is damn well one of them.

The time of that interview, Itachi was already dead. And for the 2 who will be stronger than him, i believe he was talking about Naruto and Sasuke since they will obviously be one of the strongest at the end of this manga if not the strongest

 

[kral]

minato>>>>>>>itachi. B one hell of a fight but I say he wins. Reason. It takes a second for itachi to activate tsukoyomi. Minato dodges itachi psh then weakened. He tries to use any fire tech minato reverses it. Itachi uses sasuno minato marks it n hides. Sets up sealing jutsus telapprts n bam seals sausono n thenn kills itachi. Game over minato wins
Magna > then all opinions. Sorry fanboys but juz truth! Also hashirama heals no seals so that means soon as itachi hit him he breaks outta genjutsu and then destroys itachi.
I love itachi but he's not the strongest

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

There is not such a thing like "logic" in this manga. Cuz we never know what could happen tomorrow. Today you can see Kisame far more stronger than Guy, but tomorrow you see Guy beating him like it was nothing. You can see Killer-Bee overpowered as hell against Taka and tomorrow got almost owned by Kisame. We never know what could happen in a battle if it hasn't take place, but we could make assumptions about what we've seen from characters. But the only one who knows who is stronger than who is the author of the manga(Kishimoto in our case), who is like the god of this manga and for Kishimoto, Minato was considered as the strongest. He said that even since the beginning of this manga and even countless time.

So no, we can't say Blaze Release or Owarij as the most logical since they only say their opinion. They make their own assumption and tell who is stronger from their point of view

Now, there are some characters who have more screen time than other. It's the case of Itachi in the contrary of Minato(only one fight). That's why i find it always funny the way some people compare them and ignore what Kishimoto says. Cuz we know almost nothing about what Minato is capable of when we have full knowledge on Itachi and we already claim who is stronger. Kishimoto already said who was the strongest

Im pretty sure that kishi said third hokage hiruzen is the strongest if your using that. Also we dont have full knowledge on itachi, you just contradicted yourself, by your logic we dont know what could happen tommoro and yes there is some sort of logic even in naruto.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I'd have to imagine that madara has a counter to That genjutsu, that is a weak reply but i can't imagine kishi doesnt have something planned for that, otherwise itachi would have done that. Can't you break out of that? I thought itachi explained that kabuto could break out, im sure madara, who probably has more knowledge of the sharingan then itachi, can break out. Itachi can only use that every ten years, so in a hypothetical 1v1 situation that is seperate from the rest of narutoverse, then yes it would work. But itachi would have to get the crow out if naruto to get shisui's eye, itachi even said he couldn't best jiraiya, but that could have been power scaling.

I think you may be confused i said madara could not break out of shisuis genjutsu not izanami and also maybe tsuyumi (i spell that word different everytime lol)

 

[Bogard]

Im pretty sure that kishi said third hokage hiruzen is the strongest if your using that. Also we dont have full knowledge on itachi, you just contradicted yourself, by your logic we dont know what could happen tommoro and yes there is some sort of logic even in naruto.

I'm saying the only logic come from Kishimoto. He is the one who could say who is stronger than who. What you're doing is assumption but no one can't say for sure that what he is saying is the truth. And Kishimoto said in Sandaime was the strongest, yes, but he also said some times in this manga that Minato was even stronger

 

[Mishima]

I think that interview was fake U_U

BTW, Kishi has never said Minato was the strongest. Those interviews are fake AF.

Those interviews are probably fake but either way Bogard is wrong.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I'm saying the only logic come from Kishimoto. He is the one who could say who is stronger than who. What you're doing is assumption but no one can't say for sure that what he is saying is the truth. And Kishimoto said in Sandaime was the strongest, yes, but he also said some times in this manga that Minato was even stronger

Yes i see what you are saying, but using the logic kishimoto has provided and based on the rules and knowledge we have i think we can say who is stronger than who e.g. ino is not stronger than madara lol. So based on this i would have to say while itachi is in possession of shisuis eye he is technically the most powerful apart from so6p

 

[Itachi28]

Hi im sorry to say but madara is not the strongest ninja and guess what neither is Hashirama. The amount of madara threads and hashirama threads being created and the amount of people saying madara is strongest or hashirama is strongest. No your wrong Itachi is the strongest. You people need to accept it.

Lets see what makes him number 1

He has shisuis ultimate genjutsu that can end the fight before it begins
Ultimate defence via susanoo and impenetrable shield
Ultimate sealing technique
Izanami
Izanagi (most likely)
Ameterasu
Tsukyomi which i dont think hashirama and madara could break
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND the billion other things we know about itachi such as his supreme intelligence and battle tactics.
FACE FACTS HE IS THE STRONGEST, PROVE ME WRONG

Itachi is my favourite character but your making all Itachi fans sound ridiculous. Although he is one of the strongest without the EMS he cannot be considered on Madara or Hashirama's level. Lastly, your arguement with regards to Shisui's eye is absolutely retarded, Shisui had both his eyes and was defeated by Danzo.

 

[Stark]

Minato>Itachi

I sense your rep bar will go down soon >:0

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Itachi is my favourite character but your making all Itachi fans sound ridiculous. Although he is one of the strongest without the EMS he cannot be considered on Madara or Hashirama's level. Lastly, your arguement with regards to Shisui's eye is absolutely retarded, Shisui had both his eyes and was defeated by Danzo.

Great just great are you using what they call abc logic. Just cause shisui could not beat danzo does not mean itachi could not. We all know itachi is on another level as stated by kabuto and was considered on another level even to the uchiha. Sorry but there is no comparison between shisui and itachi

 

[Bogard]

Yes i see what you are saying, but using the logic kishimoto has provided and based on the rules and knowledge we have i think we can say who is stronger than who e.g. ino is not stronger than madara lol. So based on this i would have to say while itachi is in possession of shisuis eye he is technically the most powerful apart from so6p

Danzo got Shisuis eye when he was about to cast KA. That means this jutsu can be countered and not as overpowered as some people think it is. Today you can see it as if it's the strongest jutsu, tomorrow you see that it wasn't even that strong. That's how this manga works. When you saw Kinkaku, could you believe that Ino-Shika-Cho could beat them? Could you believe Shikamaru could beat Hidan? Could you believe Naruto could beat Kakuzu in one move? Could you believe Tenten could kill some of Kakuzus mask before you saw it? Could you believe Choji could have destroyed an entire battlefield on himself before you saw it? I can continue to go this way if i want

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Danzo got Shisuis eye when he was about to cast KA. That means this jutsu can be countered and not as overpowered as some people think it is. Today you can see it as if it's the strongest jutsu, tomorrow you see that it wasn't even that strong. That's how this manga works. When you saw Kinkaku, could you believe that Ino-Shika-Cho could beat them? Could you believe Shikamaru could beat Hidan? Could you believe Naruto could beat Kakuzu in one move? Could you believe Tenten could kill some of Kakuzus mask before you saw it? Could you believe Choji could have destroyed an entire battlefield on himself before you saw it? I can continue to go this way if i want

If you could provide me with a link to a manga page where it shows that shisuis eye was taken when he was about to cast KA that would be much apprieciated. Also i see your point but it dosent disprove that itachi is the strongest thanks to having shisuis eye.

So can no-one disprove that itachi beats madara and hashirama 1 on 1. Heres another way they would lose amerterasu i dont think madara and hashirama have the speed to dodge it
Still waiting for a link which shows or says danzo got shisuis eye when he was about to cast it or do you like to make stuff up

 

[Bogard]

If you could provide me with a link to a manga page where it shows that shisuis eye was taken when he was about to cast KA that would be much apprieciated. Also i see your point but it dosent disprove that itachi is the strongest thanks to having shisuis eye.

Still waiting for a link which shows or says danzo got shisuis eye when he was about to cast it or do you like to make stuff up

You must be registered for see links

"when i tried to stop the coup d'etat by using KA, Danzo stole my eye" That means Shisui was about to cast KA, and Danzo took his eye at that time, simple