[Predictions] Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

[z49skin]

Why in the heck haven't the Kages used their summons. Katsuya would be useful to heal each kage while the larger version of herself helps to fight or at least hold off or distract Madara from focusing all of his attention on the Kages.

Does anyone know if the other Kages have summons?

she might not be able to while using that byakugou recovery jutsu.

 

[TheRedHotHabanero]

I think something big has got to happen soon for the kages. They wont be able to stop madara now without help from someone else. I'm thinking sasuke (with that scroll of info) or naruto (slim chance)? Because lets be real, all of the kages have no chance at defeating madara now, especially in their current state. They have been fighting him for forever it seems. I agree with the people saying one or two of them are going to die. No one important has died yet so someones gotta go. I really think sasuke is going to come back and whoop some a**. Whether he goes to the tobi/naruto fight or madara/kages fight idk, but the allied forces totally need a helping hand now and sasuke seems to be the only other option

 

[EternalStudent]

Why in the heck haven't the Kages used their summons. Katsuya would be useful to heal each kage while the larger version of herself helps to fight or at least hold off or distract Madara from focusing all of his attention on the Kages.

Does anyone know if the other Kages have summons?

One could argue, chakra limitations..she beefed up when she went out fighting, i doubt she could release chakra to heal while fighting at that intense of a level...but yea i gotcha

 

[EternalStudent]

I think something big has got to happen soon for the kages. They wont be able to stop madara now without help from someone else. I'm thinking sasuke (with that scroll of info) or naruto (slim chance)? Because lets be real, all of the kages have no chance at defeating madara now, especially in their current state. They have been fighting him for forever it seems. I agree with the people saying one or two of them are going to die. No one important has died yet so someones gotta go. I really think sasuke is going to come back and whoop some a**. Whether he goes to the tobi/naruto fight or madara/kages fight idk, but the allied forces totally need a helping hand now and sasuke seems to be the only other option

this is assuming Sasuke is cool again....

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Delighted to see Madara will stay and maybe kill Tsunade for me.

 

[squigles]

The soul and the spirit are connected indeed, but separable (Hebrews 4:12). The soul is the essence of humanity’s being; it is who we are. The spirit is the aspect of humanity that connects with God...logic!

If you're going to use real life references, then I could easily argue that both the soul and the spirit are products of the brain, and die with the brain, so Edo Tensei isn't even possible. If you're going to discuss the mechanics of Edo Tensei, you have to do so within the Narutoverse, which says nothing about the soul, spirit, or mind being separate things from each other, or how they connect to Edo Tensei.

For all intents and purposes, all we know about the Narutoverse is that when someone get's brought back with Edo Tensei, they have everything they had before they die (soul, spirit, mind, techniques, thoughts, feelings), and it's all put into a new body.

Then when the person is sealed or un summoned, all that stuff goes away again. So theorizing that some parts are sealed and some parts aren't, is completely irrelevant. Especially when you consider that the talisman that's used to control the summoned person's soul, can alter or suppress the person's emotions partially or completely.

I believe she means, Kabuto should still be searching for whatever secret there is to releasing Edo Tensei (possibly stored somewhere by the second hokage or held somewhere that konoha knows about)....which might be what suigetsu needs to show Sasuke???

I think you misunderstood my question. What part of the manga indicates that Kabuto is searching for something related to Edo Tensei? As far as I know he's trying to kill the Kages and wipe out all the ninja villages, alongside Tobi. If it is a correct translation, wtf is she talking about?

 

[lion fang master]

I think something big has got to happen soon for the kages. They wont be able to stop madara now without help from someone else. I'm thinking sasuke (with that scroll of info) or naruto (slim chance)? Because lets be real, all of the kages have no chance at defeating madara now, especially in their current state. They have been fighting him for forever it seems. I agree with the people saying one or two of them are going to die. No one important has died yet so someones gotta go. I really think sasuke is going to come back and whoop some a**. Whether he goes to the tobi/naruto fight or madara/kages fight idk, but the allied forces totally need a helping hand now and sasuke seems to be the only other option

we both have the same idea. But I believe non othe kage are going to die and if there is a chance its probably happens I am picking ooniki to go just his always referring to his age . I also believe Naruto is coming to finish the job, tobi is calculative while madara wants to show his might. Tobi would notice sasuke absence especially when he can't call for zetsu black or white and Edo is released, he won't continue and vanish and locate sasuke and that where I think is going to and go 1 on 1 with tobi

 

[9th Raikage]

she might not be able to while using that byakugou recovery jutsu.

That is possible but since Dan restored her chakra and the chakra storage on her head. She may wanna rethink he tactics with this second chance. Let Katsuya do some work.

 

[peachgurl]

I liked this chapter the onlything is that i wanted was for madara to leave also. it was like sasuke wanting to destroy the leaf. i saw it coming. i'm firm in that the dead should stay dead.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

dude u cant use religion to justify manga.
do u think kishi is a christian?

No I dont think that! I'm just pointing out the difference between soul and spirit. Eventhough this is a anime/manga there is factual content involved. Kishi is not a simple minded individual. I'm not implying Orochimaru will return, but I won't be surprise if he does...logic!

 

[lion fang master]

when tobi asked kabuto about the weakness to edo tensei there was seal shown at the end of the page probably that's what madara was saying but does he stay edo state till he is seales away or does become human. Itachi just create another mess for the alliance.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

i think it's not valid to assume that beliefs of christianity are to be facts in narutoverse.

and assuming that there is a difference between soul and spirit in narutoverse,
i wud say the soul is the thing of essence for edo-tensei (coz the goal of it is to resurrect certain individuals with partly unique abilities) and the spirit would be the spark of life from edos victim/vessel.
and that means orochimaru is still sealed in totsuka blade.

I'm actually incorporating data from the Narutoverse and Actual life. Eventhough its an anime/manga, this story is based on fiction but it also have factual content..logic!

 

[dman39]

so basically only kabuto/ sasuke can kill edo or get rid of edo madara? THis being because they are the only ones who know the signs. (Sasuke watched itachi perform it)

 

[Eisenpelz]

this story is based on fiction but it also have factual content..logic!

with this i agree.
but nonetheless if there are certain facts from this reality that are valid in narutoverse, we often dont know which ones or at least to which extent they are.
and since there is no hard fact coming out of manga/anime,
you cant just claim that in kishis narutoverse is made a difference between soul and spirit. he is the only one to decide the facts, and as long as kishi doesnt tell us, ur logic is not approved.

and stop with that logic thing, thats annoying ;-)

 

[Chiboyxy1]

yap knowing the seal is not anuff to free ones self from the seal,but madara actually gained temporary control of his body at the piont tachi released the seal,and i think that was when he actully did hack into the ET contract stuff,after all he is madara

 

[KnowledgeGod]

with this i agree.
but nonetheless if there are certain facts from this reality that are valid in narutoverse, we often dont know which ones or at least to which extent they are.
and since there is no hard fact coming out of manga/anime,
you cant just claim that in kishis narutoverse is made a difference between soul and spirit. he is the only one to decide the facts, and as long as kishi doesnt tell us, ur logic is not approved.

and stop with that logic thing, thats annoying ;-)

logic doesn't mean it's logic lol...it's a sig

 

[checo176]

Hashirama was stronger than Madara... only because when they fought, Madara did not have the rinnegan yet.

 

[Hatake Jade]

Good chapter! Only disappointment is that Madara could stay and itachi couldnt as for Madara freed, I hope either a confrontation or back story of tobi is revealed. I've always had a feeling the when kabuto chakras gone oro would take over so was bummed at the outcome of that fight.

 

[squigles]

Hashirama was stronger than Madara... only because when they fought, Madara did not have the rinnegan yet.

We don't know that. There is very little factual information regarding that fight.

logic doesn't mean it's logic lol...it's a sig

Using the word 'logic' at the end of a sentence is basically a suggestion to the reader that they should take what you just said as logical facts.

There's no reason for anyone here to take that as a signature since you can make an actual signature that shows up at the bottom of your posts, separate from your actual post.

In other words, stop being retarded.

No I dont think that! I'm just pointing out the difference between soul and spirit. Eventhough this is a anime/manga there is factual content involved. Kishi is not a simple minded individual. I'm not implying Orochimaru will return, but I won't be surprise if he does...logic!

There is no difference between the soul and the spirit, even in theology. The point we are trying to make is that there is no correlation between real life and the manga, in terms of what's real and what's not.

Furthermore, you cannot even establish that people really do have souls irl either, so you're arguing over something that's stupid to begin with.

In this story, there is nothing that Kishi has published that would suggest that the soul is separate from the spirit. On the contrary, everything he's published suggests that when a dead person is resurrected by Edo Tensei, everything about them comes back into the body of the sacrifice.

If that person then gets unsummoned or sealed, then everything about them goes away again. Furthermore, if a person gets sealed prior to death, they cannot be revived by Edo Tensei, proving that 'being sealed' means that everything about you gets sealed too.

 

[thenykidsk]

madara is one of my top 3 but when did he get the power to smack death in the mouth -_-
.. op shit the first hokage must have been a god to beat him....