Nagato was meant to be more haxxed than Hashi and Madara.

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no people say hashirama>edo madara because madara said so.
Which makes it all the more stupid because, as of yet, he can't seal. I also sense that some people are unable to use their brains. Madara's statement gives the impression that he thinks Hashirama is the only person who deserves to beat him. He's always held that inner respect for Shodaime, something which he doesn't seem to hold for others. But hey, if people think:

Hashirama > EMS Madara (Barely)
Hashirama > Edo Madara,

Makes logically sense, then well, they can't be helped.
 
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yup because madara will just sit and look while nagato is absorbing his susano. also whats preventing madara from reforming it. nagato gets taken out by a multi-mountain busting sword slash.
1. I'm just explaining to you why Susanoo would be useless against Nagato. If Madara reforms it that is just wasting even more chakra he doesn't have. He is not a Senju and certainly not an Uzamaki. Susanoo isn't touching Nagato.

2. EMS Madara has nothing that Nagato isn't prepared to counter. Nagato on the other hand has his animal summons, Bansho tenshin + human path, Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tesei, Gedo Mazo soul dragon and stamina for days.
 

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the gedo mazo isnt more in sync with nagato. tobis version is stronger and better than nagatos.

nagato isnt stronger than madara just because he has the rinnegan. that only works in nagato vs itachi or nagato vs sasuke threads. madara is the most gifted dojutsu user in the narutoverse excluding the sage and his sons. ems madaras attacks are on a much bigger scale than nagatos. you cant give a good explanation to why nagato>ems madara.

im talking about Bijuu Mode naruto. the one that faced tobi. when he transforms into kurama. im not talking about kcm naruto.
fine tobi>nagato high difficulty
you sort of have a point with bm naruto but its no easy win if thats what your suggesting , i'm getting confused with all this mode shieet -.- if anything then nagato=bm naruto for now because naruto can only stay in bm mode for 5 minutes , not enough time to defeat nagato with his stamina , large chakra reserves , 6 paths and summons i.e as well as the rinne, shinra and chibaku tensei's

-.- here follow this link to this forum there is heaps of reasons why nagato>ems madara, theres plenty of reasons , the shinra and chibaku tensei's and the summons i cbf typing myself , scroll down the comments don't just read the ones that favour ems madara
 
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EMS Madara > Nagato? The Rinnegan is the superior Doujutsu...

And I was talking about Hashirama.
Just having a "superior" doujutsu doesn't mean you will always win.
Both rinnegan and EMS have different strengths and weaknesses. The one who utilizes these advantages the best and makes up for their weaknesses more efficiently is the one who will win. It's not like this is an easy win for nagato. He might not even win imho.
With above in mind, we need to see Hashirama actually fight first to see how competent he is at doing this. :|
I'm not saying that Nagato will lose indefinitely. On the contrary, he has a strong possibility of winning but I'm not going to judge before we see everything.
 
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Which makes it all the more stupid because, as of yet, he can't seal. I also sense that some people are unable to use their brains. Madara's statement gives the impression that he thinks Hashirama is the only person who deserves to beat him. He's always held that inner respect for Shodaime, something which he doesn't seem to hold for others. But hey, if people think:

Hashirama > EMS Madara (Barely)
Hashirama > Edo Madara,

Makes logically sense, then well, they can't be helped.
I thought it was obvious. Never did I ever think I would walk on NB and people start believing Hashirama was stronger than Edo Madara. Kabuto put it plain and simple how Edo Madara was suppose to be. A union of both Madara and Hashirama + Rinnegan.

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nagato had to many set backs if his life that delayed him of the ninja status that he really had going for him,if it was not for all of the incidents that had occurred he could have been as strong as hashirama or madara if not stronger(maybe)i mean its not like he didn't have what it took, next to the SOTSP nagatos the best rinnegan user ever(doesn't matter if the eyes were transplanted or not its fact)and we haven't even seen how strong he TRULY was,against itachi,naruto,and bee that shit right their was only a teaser, if nagato had his complete body not only could he have single handily ended this war but defeated kabuto and made him release edo tensei WAYY easier than itachi.
 

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I thought it was obvious. Never did I ever think I would walk on NB and people start believing Hashirama was stronger than Edo Madara. Kabuto put it plain and simple how Edo Madara was suppose to be. A union of both Madara and Hashirama + Rinnegan.

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It's because people secretly like and want to believe Madara's words >_>
Even though most of the time, he spews the same BS over and over again about Hashirama and weakness. (he really only needed to say it once if even that, tbh) :|
I still like him as a character, but why couldn't Kishi give him somewhat significant and informative dialogue?
 
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I thought it was obvious. Never did I ever think I would walk on NB and people start believing Hashirama was stronger than Edo Madara. Kabuto put it plain and simple how Edo Madara was suppose to be. A union of both Madara and Hashirama + Rinnegan.

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At this stage, I find that claim laughable.
 

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nagato had to many set backs if his life that delayed him of the ninja status that he really had going for him,if it was not for all of the incidents that had occurred he could have been as strong as hashirama or madara if not stronger(maybe)i mean its not like he didn't have what it took, next to the SOTSP nagatos the best rinnegan user ever(doesn't matter if the eyes were transplanted or not its fact)and we haven't even seen how strong he TRULY was,against itachi,naruto,and bee that shit right their was only a teaser, if nagato had his complete body not only could he have single handily ended this war but defeated kabuto and made him release edo tensei WAYY easier than itachi.
I agree that he could have maybe been stronger. From what has shown tho Nagato can defeat both EMS Madara and Hashirama everytime.
 

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I agree that he could have maybe been stronger. From what has shown tho Nagato can defeat both EMS Madara and Hashirama everytime.
Im not saying he can defeat them especially not hashirama but had he not had these set backs in his life he probably could,i mean madara and hashirama had no set backs when it came to using their power,nagato did and they were so bad that even edo tensei couldn't relieve him of them,their so much power inside nagato yet theirs aways something holding him back,you'll never know just how powerful,OP and badass this guy could have been and its a shame...i believe if nagatos set backs were taken away plus he had all his powers..he could do almost anything.....
 
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Just having a "superior" doujutsu doesn't mean you will always win.
Both rinnegan and EMS have different strengths and weaknesses. The one who utilizes these advantages the best and makes up for their weaknesses more efficiently is the one who will win. It's not like this is an easy win for nagato. He might not even win imho.
With above in mind, we need to see Hashirama actually fight first to see how competent he is at doing this. :|
I'm not saying that Nagato will lose indefinitely. On the contrary, he has a strong possibility of winning but I'm not going to judge before we see everything.
And Nagato has had his Rinnegan for 20+ years. I'm certain he's figured out how to use it to its full extent. What people forget is that although powerful individually, the Paths when used together are even more haxxed.


Im not saying he can defeat them especially not hashirama but had he not had these set backs in his life he probably could,i mean madara and hashirama had no set backs when it came to using their power,nagato did and they were so bad that even edo tensei couldn't relieve him of them,their so much power inside nagato yet theirs aways something holding him back,you'll never know just how powerful,OP and badass this guy could have been and its a shame...i believe if nagatos set backs were taken away plus he had all his powers..he could do almost anything.....
So you agree that a full health and mobile Nagato > Hashirama or Madara?
 

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1. I'm just explaining to you why Susanoo would be useless against Nagato. If Madara reforms it that is just wasting even more chakra he doesn't have. He is not a Senju and certainly not an Uzamaki. Susanoo isn't touching Nagato.

2. EMS Madara has nothing that Nagato isn't prepared to counter. Nagato on the other hand has his animal summons, Bansho tenshin + human path, Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tesei, Gedo Mazo soul dragon and stamina for days.
1. He had chakra amounts that rivaled the senju leader. Also do you blindly believe that nagato has all the time in the world to absrob a huge ass susanoo? Don't be an idiot.... he would be slashed in half before he gets the chance to lay a hand....


2. Again..... Madara has comparable stamina to a uzumaki with translpanted eyes...
 

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1. He had chakra amounts that rivaled the senju leader. Also do you blindly believe that nagato has all the time in the world to absrob a huge ass susanoo? Don't be an idiot.... he would be slashed in half before he gets the chance to lay a hand....


2. Again..... Madara has comparable stamina to a uzumaki with translpanted eyes...

what? Madara had chakra amounts rivaling senju leader?

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He still cannot defeat them though. We're talking about the two strongest shinobi's of an era and a man with similar accolades as countless other shinobi.

Also, he didn't lead Akatsuki, Tobi did. He mastered 5 elements due to the Rinnegan, otherwise that would be nearly impossible. Yahiko would've been the one to take over the Rain had he not died, Hanzo was clearly losing his touch.
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1. He had chakra amounts that rivaled the senju leader. Also do you blindly believe that nagato has all the time in the world to absrob a huge ass susanoo? Don't be an idiot.... he would be slashed in half before he gets the chance to lay a hand....


2. Again..... Madara has comparable stamina to a uzumaki with translpanted eyes...
:rofl: wrong on both points. Tell me what is Madara going to do? His sword slash from Susanoo is getting asorbed how is he hitting Nagato you make no sense. :sy:.

Link of Madaras stamina/chakra on par with a Senju and Uzamaki?:rolleyes:

He has enough Chakra to fight them in battle but he isn't outlasting either.
 

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:rofl: wrong on both points. Tell me what is Madara going to do? His sword slash from Susanoo is getting asorbed how is he hitting Nagato you make no sense. :sy:.

Link of Madaras stamina/chakra on par with a Senju and Uzamaki?:rolleyes:

He has enough Chakra to fight them in battle but he isn't outlasting either.
so preta path can absorb shockwaves from a sword slash now? this post is complete and utter garbage.
 
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