Nagato was meant to be more haxxed than Hashi and Madara.

[Hipster Madara]

Hashirama has no known counter to every Rinnegan tech in a stronger and mobile Nagato, let alone Gedo Mazo.

we havent seen anything from hashirama, really, so i don't think it's fair to judge at the moment.
Anyways, im not going to discuss this >_>

 

[TheSages456]

Fixed.

since all the characters that i listed are OP characters, lets use A>B>C logic

hashirama>edo madara>nagato

none of nagatos attacks can compare to even ems madaras. nagato can do nothing against a multi-mountain busting attack.

BM naruto>nagato

 

[Dantee]

I just don't know why people have this obsession with Nagato being stronger than Madara and Hashirama.

I really really don't see the other way around.

Ugh...How do I say it? He's more of a puppet than Sasori was! I mean shit...you mope around for a decade only to lose a fight and break your resolve? Hashi was good, Madara was bad and Nagato was just plain confused. Not only was he crippled and forced to fight behind his friends body, but he hid behind a ridiculous alias and had the balls to think of himself as a god.

Thats why I just can't view Nagato as one of the best. He destroys a village only to revive them; he spends years capturing the bijuu just to give up after he gets a few bruises from the biggest jinchuuriki on the yard.

Tobi was using his ideals against him to manipulate Nagato. Tobi was the one who gave him the Rinnegan in the 1st place. So it's not far fetched to say Tobi pretty much dictated the outcome of his life without him knowing it. Nagato was strong enough to let go of his pain and leave it to Naruto.

since all the characters that i listed are OP characters, lets use A>B>C logic

hashirama>edo madara>nagato

none of nagatos attacks can compare to even ems madaras. nagato can do nothing against a multi-mountain busting attack.

BM naruto>nagato

For the last time Hashi can't defeat Edo Madara nor Nagato. Hashi fought EMS Madara and Madara gave him high difficulty. So tell me more how Hashi fights someone who has his powers + Rinnegan and EMS

EMS Madara all of his attacks are ninjutsu. Preta Path >>>Susanoo.

BM Naruto and Nagato is debatable and only because of Narutos speed.

 

[ItachiSan03]

Ugh...How do I say it? He's more of a puppet than Sasori was! I mean shit...you mope around for a decade only to lose a fight and break your resolve? Hashi was good, Madara was bad and Nagato was just plain confused. Not only was he crippled and forced to fight behind his friends body, but he hid behind a ridiculous alias and had the balls to think of himself as a god.

Thats why I just can't view Nagato as one of the best. He destroys a village only to revive them; he spends years capturing the bijuu just to give up after he gets a few bruises from the biggest jinchuuriki on the yard.

Dude come up with a better argument than that, in your mind nagato isnt a true shinobi or whatever. But we're not debating that here. In terms of power. Is nagato stronger than hashirama and madara? Thats the question.

 

[TobisPawn]

we havent seen anything from hashirama, really, so i don't think it's fair to judge at the moment.
Anyways, im not going to discuss this >_>

So we can't say Nagato > Minato just because we haven't seen everything from Minato? :/

since all the characters that i listed are OP characters, lets use A>B>C logic

hashirama>edo madara>nagato

none of nagatos attacks can compare to even ems madaras. nagato can do nothing against a multi-mountain busting attack.

BM naruto>nagato

I still don't believe that Hashirama > Edo Madara. I think he was referring to his Susanoo being stopped, though that's debatable. Hashirama has no known counter to any Rinnegan tech, and Nagato at full health (though still lacking mobility) was shown to be able to uproot trees at ease...and Gedo Mazo is capable of creating huge shock waves and such.

BM Naruto vs Nagato is debatable, because Nagato can absorb pretty much all of his attacks.

 

[Οdin]

So we can't say Nagato > Minato just because we haven't seen everything from Minato? :/

He's shown enough skill to take on Nagato. But I really don't know if he can defeat Nagato.

 

[Ryuu..]

Nagato was actually referred to as a Sage of 6 Paths, so that myth BS is irrelevant.

 

[Darth Wignus]

I agree he is not just up there but way up there. He would of easily been a Kage in any of the 5 villages.

 

[Hipster Madara]

So we can't say Nagato > Minato just because we haven't seen everything from Minato? :/




I still don't believe that Hashirama > Edo Madara. I think he was referring to his Susanoo being stopped, though that's debatable. Hashirama has no known counter to any Rinnegan tech, and Nagato at full health (though still lacking mobility) was shown to be able to uproot trees at ease...and Gedo Mazo is capable of creating huge shock waves and such.

BM Naruto vs Nagato is debatable, because Nagato can absorb pretty much all of his attacks.

We've seen enough of him. We saw his most important fight (him vs. kyuubi and tobi) but we haven't seen hashirama's most important fight which will change the entire manga so :|
we dont even know how he beat madara or the extent of his skills which are supposed to be legendary.

Nagato was actually referred to as a Sage of 6 Paths, so that myth BS is irrelevant.

im not doubting you, but by who?

 

[Legendary Broly]

edo madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nagato

rinnegan tobi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nagato

both tobi and madara have every ability nagato has in addition to sharingan abilities.

ems madara is still too haxx for nagato. a casual sword swing from his susano is a multi-mountain buster.

BM naruto>nagato

yes edo madara > nagato

nagato has way more nature changes then tobi, he has them all therefore
nagato>/=tobi , the gedo maze was more in sync with nagato and a healthy nagato with rinnegan and 6 paths beats a rinnegan tobi or equals him anyway because of tobi's extra sharingan powers on top of the rinnegan ones
HOWEVER THIS IS ONLY FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR , i have an open mind that tobi has more up his sleeves then waht we've seen so far if he is convinced he can defeat the juubi , so possibly when i see these powers up his sleeves tobi>nagato

and no nagato>ems madara , theres a reason the rinnegan is the next level from ems, nagato wins high difficulty he has more chakra then ems madara and a healthy nagato with 6 paths wins in the end aswell as his nature changes , he'll probably die in the end from chakra exhaustion but in the end he'll deliver the death blow to madara through shinra tensei or something like that

and no nagato>bm naruto , nagato would of beaten bm naruto in a 1 on 1 fight the only reason he won was because he had help from B and Itachi two of the strongest dudes in the narutoverse

 

[Ryuu..]

We've seen enough of him. We saw his most important fight (him vs. kyuubi and tobi) but we haven't seen hashirama's most important fight which will change the entire manga so :|
we dont even know how he beat madara or the extent of his skills which are supposed to be legendary.

im not doubting you, but by who?

Tobi.

 

[TobisPawn]

We've seen enough of him. We saw his most important fight (him vs. kyuubi and tobi) but we haven't seen hashirama's most important fight which will change the entire manga so :|
we dont even know how he beat madara or the extent of his skills which are supposed to be legendary.

im not doubting you, but by who?

For Ryuu's quote: Tobi said it.

But Madara didn't have the Rinnegan when he fought Hashirama. The Rinnegan was considered so powerful that people thought it was fake or some mutation. Nagato is underrated here..

 

[Hipster Madara]

For Ryuu's quote: Tobi said it.

But Madara didn't have the Rinnegan when he fought Hashirama. The Rinnegan was considered so powerful that people thought it was fake or some mutation. Nagato is underrated here..

well, i forgot. i'll try to find it later.
that's not the point. i already said EMS madara > nagato. What i meant is that we actually need to see his abilities used by himself in a recent manga chapter before we can even discuss his strength without making assumptions based on hype, those who have acquired his DNA et al >_>

Tobi.

im pretty sure one word replies are against the rules.

 

[TheSages456]

yes edo madara > nagato

nagato has way more nature changes then tobi, he has them all therefore
nagato>/=tobi , the gedo maze was more in sync with nagato and a healthy nagato with rinnegan and 6 paths beats a rinnegan tobi or equals him anyway because of tobi's extra sharingan powers on top of the rinnegan ones
HOWEVER THIS IS ONLY FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR , i have an open mind that tobi has more up his sleeves then waht we've seen so far if he is convinced he can defeat the juubi , so possibly when i see these powers up his sleeves tobi>nagato

and no nagato>ems madara , theres a reason the rinnegan is the next level from ems, nagato wins high difficulty he has more chakra then ems madara and a healthy nagato with 6 paths wins in the end aswell as his nature changes , he'll probably die in the end from chakra exhaustion but in the end he'll deliver the death blow to madara through shinra tensei or something like that

and no nagato>bm naruto , nagato would of beaten bm naruto in a 1 on 1 fight the only reason he won was because he had help from B and Itachi two of the strongest dudes in the narutoverse

the gedo mazo isnt more in sync with nagato. tobis version is stronger and better than nagatos.

nagato isnt stronger than madara just because he has the rinnegan. that only works in nagato vs itachi or nagato vs sasuke threads. madara is the most gifted dojutsu user in the narutoverse excluding the sage and his sons. ems madaras attacks are on a much bigger scale than nagatos. you cant give a good explanation to why nagato>ems madara.

im talking about Bijuu Mode naruto. the one that faced tobi. when he transforms into kurama. im not talking about kcm naruto.

 

[TobisPawn]

well, i forgot. i'll try to find it later.
that's not the point. i already said EMS madara > nagato. What i meant is that we actually need to see his abilities used by himself in a recent manga chapter before we can even discuss his strength without making assumptions based on hype, those who have acquired his DNA et al >_>


im pretty sure one word replies are against the rules.

EMS Madara > Nagato? The Rinnegan is the superior Doujutsu...

And I was talking about Hashirama.

 

[Dantee]

the gedo mazo isnt more in sync with nagato. tobis version is stronger and better than nagatos.

nagato isnt stronger than madara just because he has the rinnegan. that only works in nagato vs itachi or nagato vs sasuke threads. madara is the most gifted dojutsu user in the narutoverse excluding the sage and his sons. ems madaras attacks are on a much bigger scale than nagatos. you cant give a good explanation to why nagato>ems madara.

im talking about Bijuu Mode naruto. the one that faced tobi. when he transforms into kurama. im not talking about kcm naruto.

Sorry to burst your bubble but EMS Madara greatest destructive feat is Perfect Susanoo which is negated by Preta Path.

It does not matter how strong it is. If it's chakra it gets asorbed. Once Madara loses the chakra for PS the game is over.

 

[TheSages456]

Sorry to burst your bubble but EMS Madara greatest destructive feat is Perfect Susanoo which is negated by Preta Path.

It does not matter how strong it is. If it's chakra it gets asorbed. Once Madara loses the chakra for PS the game is over.

yup because madara will just sit and look while nagato is absorbing his susano. also whats preventing madara from reforming it. nagato gets taken out by a multi-mountain busting sword slash.

 

[Ryuu..]

Same people who are trying to use Hashirama's hype are the same people who reject Nagato's. These are also the same people who say Hashirama > Edo Madara despite the fact that Hashirama does not have any sealing feats. SMH.

 

[Owarij]

Sigh, Nagato summons his gedo mazo , with 6 bijuus powering it,
It uses its purple dragon jutsu
Dragon swoops at hashirama and takes his soul.
The end.

 

[TheSages456]

Same people who are trying to use Hashirama's hype are the same people who reject Nagato's. These are also the same people who say Hashirama > Edo Madara despite the fact that Hashirama does not have any sealing feats. SMH.

no people say hashirama>edo madara because madara said so.