Theirs a reason why Madara keeps saying that Hashirama....
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Veritasinpersonam
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The Tobi theory that makes the most sense. Tobi is the Sage's older son (inheriting the eyes which also makes his uniquely suited to be the host of the 10 tails). Hashirama was the long lived younger son.
We suspect Hashirama to be merely a descendant of the Sage's younger son. After all, Tobirama was reputed to be his sibling. But what if that was just a cover? There are any number of possibilities that could have led to Hashirama introducing himself into the clan with a younger "brother" so we don't need to go into detail.
The younger son of the sage inherited the sage's "body", great physical and healing powers. The Edo Tensei Madara himself acknowledged Hashirama's tremendous power, including, most importantly, his ability to REGENERATE. We've already seen he has great life manipulating abilities with his wood element jutsu. His life giving powers and regeneration can reasonably lead us to suspect that he may have lived far beyond the span of time alotted to most mortals. It is interesting to note that Hashirama's cells were prized for the tremendous and unique abilities they bestowed. It would make sense for the son with the "body" of the Sage to have such powers.
Who else could be so uniquely suited to defeat Uchiha Madara, who was unable to overcome Hashirama even with the Nine Tails as his thrall?
Tobi explained that Hashirama was his rival. We are tricked into believing that Tobi was Madara recounting his rivalry with Hashirama, but Tobi's account would still be true if he was speaking of his rivalry with his younger sibling.
Tobi has often hinted at his long lifespan and possessed substantial personal knowledge of the details of the Sage, his children, and Hashirama and Madara. Tobi knew (personally) the philosophies of the two children of the first Sage. Further, being the inheritor of his father's eyes, it explains how, if he was truthful, he could have passed the Rinnegan to Nagato. His philosophy also hearkens to the Sage's older son, using might to enforce peace rather than love. The Infinite Tsukiyomi is the ultimate expression of using might to force everyone into a peaceful slumber and impose his will on the world. Other than Madara's younger brother, who else would Madara possibly join up with?
We suspect Hashirama to be merely a descendant of the Sage's younger son. After all, Tobirama was reputed to be his sibling. But what if that was just a cover? There are any number of possibilities that could have led to Hashirama introducing himself into the clan with a younger "brother" so we don't need to go into detail.
The younger son of the sage inherited the sage's "body", great physical and healing powers. The Edo Tensei Madara himself acknowledged Hashirama's tremendous power, including, most importantly, his ability to REGENERATE. We've already seen he has great life manipulating abilities with his wood element jutsu. His life giving powers and regeneration can reasonably lead us to suspect that he may have lived far beyond the span of time alotted to most mortals. It is interesting to note that Hashirama's cells were prized for the tremendous and unique abilities they bestowed. It would make sense for the son with the "body" of the Sage to have such powers.
Who else could be so uniquely suited to defeat Uchiha Madara, who was unable to overcome Hashirama even with the Nine Tails as his thrall?
Tobi explained that Hashirama was his rival. We are tricked into believing that Tobi was Madara recounting his rivalry with Hashirama, but Tobi's account would still be true if he was speaking of his rivalry with his younger sibling.
Tobi has often hinted at his long lifespan and possessed substantial personal knowledge of the details of the Sage, his children, and Hashirama and Madara. Tobi knew (personally) the philosophies of the two children of the first Sage. Further, being the inheritor of his father's eyes, it explains how, if he was truthful, he could have passed the Rinnegan to Nagato. His philosophy also hearkens to the Sage's older son, using might to enforce peace rather than love. The Infinite Tsukiyomi is the ultimate expression of using might to force everyone into a peaceful slumber and impose his will on the world. Other than Madara's younger brother, who else would Madara possibly join up with?
Hipster Madara
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Depends on the user, but yes.
that would be one hell of a twist xd
doubt it, though because hashirama looked really young but whatever, at this point, nothing surprises me.
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MadaraIsGod
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Idk We Havent Really Seen Hashiramas Full Power I Mean When He Was Summoned By Orchimaru He Was Weak He Was A Mindles Zombie Plus That Was Pretty Much The Beginning Of Naruto Still So Idk We Havent Seen Hashiramas Full Power Nor Sadly Do I Think We Ever Will
Well all this made me think...... If oro and kabu cld figure out Madara's secret of Rinnegan . . . . What if thay also figured out Hashi's secret and wrote it in the scroll Segetsu is carrying? They wld also wonder how the hell Hashi managed to beat Madara, and research about him (They had Hashi cell to test and confirm their theory).
Kurama may have a flash back.
Veritasinpersonam
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A poster above made a good point about Hashirama's aging and I wanted to address that as consistent with the theory above.
If he's constantly regenerating, he might even just stay young. Even Tsunade who has only a shadow of his healing abilities maintains a youthful appearance.
If he's constantly regenerating, he might even just stay young. Even Tsunade who has only a shadow of his healing abilities maintains a youthful appearance.
hokagenaruto
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not surprising that hashi can beat madara, i mean, in naruto ultimate ninja 3 ( for ps2 in my case ) hashi's ultimate jutsu was that he made a huge tree ( and u in the middle of it ) and then made a forest and u were in the middle of the forest, then burn the hole thing up like a
mad volcano shish that guy has some awesome chakara for starters
mad volcano shish that guy has some awesome chakara for starters
TheSages456
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so madaras mokuton=hashiramas despite madara taking out his own forest with one susano sword swipe.
madara pulled out perfect susano and stated that it was his full power.
I believe that Hashirama had a power we haven't seen yet. Don't forget the 9 tails was their. So maybe somewhere along the line Kurama might tell Naruto what happened. Remember Kurama has been around since the time of the Sage of the 6 Paths, so he knows alot more then anyone else does. I wouldn't be surprised if the 9 tails becomes Naruto's new teacher.
dude, stop arguing, people are retarded, honestly
Look at hashirama's face and body after his fight with EMS madara
Now this is edo madara , who is 500 x stronger than ems madara, and they still think he can win
gg
Nb'ers logic
TheSages456
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hashirama>>ems madara
hashirama>ems madara with kyuubi
hashirama=>edo madara
madara said that hashirama can beat him and thats all there is to it. if edo madara fought hashirama then the fight would be much closer than their VOTE fight.
Their fight at VOTE was close already. Using your logic (Mokuton instant-restrains Gedo Mazo and 6 bijuus lawl), Kurama was taken out not too long in the fight. Hashirama was bleeding all over after defeating EMS Madara.
Now if you're going to disregard Kabuto's words and assume that Rinnegan + EMS (already was near-even with Hashirama) + MOKUTON is still << Mokuton, you're a confused man.
Meh, idiots will be idiots, and obviously common sense isn't common
But what I really do want to know, Is the list of other ninja who were on hashirama's level, which kabuto spoke about
I mean, since there were other ninjas, and to the idiots Hashirama seems to be on edo madara level,
Which btw explains how he died in some random unknown war battle
TheSages456
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because hashirama can only use mokuton right? he just comes from the senju clan which is "the clan with a thousand skills". those huge scrolls he carries around dont have anything in them. as i remember you saying before, you cant pick and choose hype. you dont want to believe hashirama>edo madara but you jump on hiruzens hype like a mad dog despite him showing nothing on hashiramas level.
Hashi used his Mokuton and did THING'S... to Madara, things that he can not forget for the rest of his life, and he is so traumatized by that Ra.. *cough*
I mean Assualt, that he still keeps it in mind and every time he sees anything related to Hashi, he calls his name to make sure that he is not around.
I mean Assualt, that he still keeps it in mind and every time he sees anything related to Hashi, he calls his name to make sure that he is not around.
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