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ummm you have made so many tobi threads

He's my favorite character. But how does that make me a fanboy? Isn't a fanboy someone who rejects any logic in threads regarding their favorite characters?

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it takes how many days exactley to pull the soul out of lower level bijuu with how many akatsuki members what your implying is stupid
Completely absorbing a Bijuu's chakra =/ Ripping its soul out.

And Madara isn't fighting at his full potential if he's also controlling Kurama (I'll find the panel if you ask).
 

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it takes how many days exactley to pull the soul out of lower level bijuu with how many akatsuki members what your implying is stupid

It takes that long to drain all the chakra , aka the entire tailed beast from the jinchuriki..

Ripping the soul out is an almost instant process, as we see with nagato's dragon, More instant than sucking the chakra from someone's body


Completely absorbing a Bijuu's chakra =/ Ripping its soul out.

And Madara isn't fighting at his full potential if he's also controlling Kurama (I'll find the panel if you ask).

Ahh , answered before me, Why do i miss these things t.t
 

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It takes that long to drain all the chakra , aka the entire tailed beast from the jinchuriki..

Ripping the soul out is an almost instant process, as we see with nagato's dragon, More instant than sucking the chakra from someone's body




Ahh , answered before me, Why do i miss these things t.t
Even if I answer it, these guys are too stubborn. 0_0 I'm thinking on making a thread on the Rinnegan due to how much people underrate it...
 

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Seriously. People see one panel of Madara destroying a mountain, and they suddenly think that raw power means everything. :/

Lol, he destroys a mountain, and people think he > nagato in raw power

sigh, Do i have to get scans of what shinra tensei did the the area as well as chibaku tensei...

Nagato>>>>>>>>>>>>Them in raw power for days...
 

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Shodaime's main offensive ability is his Mokuton, and like any other ninjutsu this attack is made of chakra, albeit chakra converted into another form. Nagato will be able to absorb this, as displayed when he absorbed Jiraiya's toad oil. Some find it hard to believe that Preta Path can absorb solid objects, but it can if they are formed initially from chakra.

Nagato has plenty of ways to end this match, but none as effective as the removal of Hashirama's soul. This can be done in two ways; firstly, through the use of Gedo Mazo. Nagato will be able to use the Soul Removal Dragon to instantly take Hashirama's soul, as he did against multiple shinobi in his battle against Hanzo. Note, Hanzo was only able to avoid this jutsu by using the body flicker technique.
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So unless Hashirama will be quick enough to escape this jutsu, he can expect to taste defeat. The second way in which Nagato can take Hashirama's soul is by using the Human Path. The Human Path grants the user the ability to remove the soul of any target they touched as well as read their mind. Now, by combining this with Banshou Tenin, Nagato can create a devastating combo. When under the influence of this jutsu, Hashirama will find it almost impossible to counter, as Naruto was completely immobilised when Nagato used it on him. Naruto only managed to escape due to his chakra arm.
Once being drawn in, Nagato can swiftly proceed to draw out Hashirama's soul.
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Nagato's ability to use multiple paths at once also give him a great advantage in this matchup:
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Hashirama's Mokuton clones can be kept away by Shinra Tensei. Remember, this is a shinra Tensei which the Deva Path was able to use in order to easily fling Gamabunta et al hundreds of yards into the mountains. Added to the fact that Naruto claimed all of Nagato's techniques were stronger when he used it in his real body, you'd be a fool to think Mokuton clones or their offensive techniques will get anyway near Nagato.

Nagato's summons will also cause Hashirama a great deal of difficulty. In particular, The Giant Snake-Tailed Chameleon. Now, this summon this creature can blend with its surroundings for camouflage, so perfectly that it renders itself completely invisible to other viewers around. If Hashirama expects to deal with Nagato, how is he going to stay alert of the invisible summon? It's either or. The Chameleon has feats of destroying houses, so it is not absurd to suggest it would be able to destroy any part of the forrest in which it is summoned in. The snake-tail can be used as a prehensile limb, to be able to grab and capture intended targets for Nagato, which also presents another opportunity for him to take Hashirama's soul.
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Hashirama may also have difficulty with dealing with Cereberus whilst trying to focus on Nagato. It can split apart, when struck, into individual dogs that can then merge back together. It also gains additional heads every time it splits in this way; so Hashirama will not be able to try and physically destroy it, and, without knowledge, is unlikely not to fall into this trap.

Bringer of Darkness does little except negate the sight of the opponent. Shinra Tensei would be able to sufficiently counter this, as Nagato uses himself as the center point, and anything which is not him get's hit. Also remember, Bringer of Darkness is a only short - mid range technique, so Hashirama is very likely to be affected by Shinra Tensei if he uses it.

A sick Nagato was able to use a Chibaku Tensei (through the Deva Path whilst being low on Chakra) capable of housing the Eight tails mode Kyuubi. Logically, a healthy Nagato would be able to create a stronger and bigger variation of this jutsu, one which Hashirama would very much struggle to escape. Mini mountain sized rocks > Wood, so I find it a stretch to say Mokuton will be able to break out of it.
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It took the best part of a Bijuu Dama, Rasen-Shuriken and Yasaka Magatama to destroy the core. It also took Itachi's genius to work out how to destroy it during the initial start up phase. I find it unlikely that Hashirama will have the speed of thought required in order to halt such a jutsu.

Hashirama's power may've been called a myth like the So6P, but let's remember, Nagato was actually called the Second Sage of 6 Paths, so it's not like Hashirama's hype completely overshadows Nagato's.
 

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Nagato is also not to be underestimated so quickely. Madara never got the rinne until late in his life, therefor it litterally too late to be in his prime.

Nagato's full potential is never seen because
1. in the naruto pain fight he was crippled, but even so could level a small nation.
2. in his edo form, he was under the full control of kabuto and therefor was only as good as kabuto knew of him (which frankly was only as good as what happened at konoha) afterwards he just lets him go berserk and so we dont see any of Nagato's strategy. dont be so quick to put down nagato or any other shinobi. any shinobi is capable of beating any other shinobi. there is no set constant of power. this isnt DBZ
 

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Shodaime's main offensive ability is his Mokuton, and like any other ninjutsu this attack is made of chakra, albeit chakra converted into another form. Nagato will be able to absorb this, as displayed when he absorbed Jiraiya's toad oil. Some find it hard to believe that Preta Path can absorb solid objects, but it can if they are formed initially from chakra.

Nagato has plenty of ways to end this match, but none as effective as the removal of Hashirama's soul. This can be done in two ways; firstly, through the use of Gedo Mazo. Nagato will be able to use the Soul Removal Dragon to instantly take Hashirama's soul, as he did against multiple shinobi in his battle against Hanzo. Note, Hanzo was only able to avoid this jutsu by using the body flicker technique.
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So unless Hashirama will be quick enough to escape this jutsu, he can expect to taste defeat. The second way in which Nagato can take Hashirama's soul is by using the Human Path. The Human Path grants the user the ability to remove the soul of any target they touched as well as read their mind. Now, by combining this with Banshou Tenin, Nagato can create a devastating combo. When under the influence of this jutsu, Hashirama will find it almost impossible to counter, as Naruto was completely immobilised when Nagato used it on him. Naruto only managed to escape due to his chakra arm.
Once being drawn in, Nagato can swiftly proceed to draw out Hashirama's soul.
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Nagato's ability to use multiple paths at once also give him a great advantage in this matchup:
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Hashirama's Mokuton clones can be kept away by Shinra Tensei. Remember, this is a shinra Tensei which the Deva Path was able to use in order to easily fling Gamabunta et al hundreds of yards into the mountains. Added to the fact that Naruto claimed all of Nagato's techniques were stronger when he used it in his real body, you'd be a fool to think Mokuton clones or their offensive techniques will get anyway near Nagato.

Nagato's summons will also cause Hashirama a great deal of difficulty. In particular, The Giant Snake-Tailed Chameleon. Now, this summon this creature can blend with its surroundings for camouflage, so perfectly that it renders itself completely invisible to other viewers around. If Hashirama expects to deal with Nagato, how is he going to stay alert of the invisible summon? It's either or. The Chameleon has feats of destroying houses, so it is not absurd to suggest it would be able to destroy any part of the forrest in which it is summoned in. The snake-tail can be used as a prehensile limb, to be able to grab and capture intended targets for Nagato, which also presents another opportunity for him to take Hashirama's soul.
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Hashirama may also have difficulty with dealing with Cereberus whilst trying to focus on Nagato. It can split apart, when struck, into individual dogs that can then merge back together. It also gains additional heads every time it splits in this way; so Hashirama will not be able to try and physically destroy it, and, without knowledge, is unlikely not to fall into this trap.

Bringer of Darkness does little except negate the sight of the opponent. Shinra Tensei would be able to sufficiently counter this, as Nagato uses himself as the center point, and anything which is not him get's hit. Also remember, Bringer of Darkness is a only short - mid range technique, so Hashirama is very likely to be affected by Shinra Tensei if he uses it.

A sick Nagato was able to use a Chibaku Tensei (through the Deva Path whilst being low on Chakra) capable of housing the Eight tails mode Kyuubi. Logically, a healthy Nagato would be able to create a stronger and bigger variation of this jutsu, one which Hashirama would very much struggle to escape. Mini mountain sized rocks > Wood, so I find it a stretch to say Mokuton will be able to break out of it.
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It took the best part of a Bijuu Dama, Rasen-Shuriken and Yasaka Magatama to destroy the core. It also took Itachi's genius to work out how to destroy it during the initial start up phase. I find it unlikely that Hashirama will have the speed of thought required in order to halt such a jutsu.

Hashirama's power may've been called a myth like the So6P, but let's remember, Nagato was actually called the Second Sage of 6 Paths, so it's not like Hashirama's hype completely overshadows Nagato's.

Lol did you post this in another thread? I feel like I just read this already.
 

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are you kidding me? STOP OVERATING Hashirama and Madara... hashi was never the strongest, never... Even kabuto said that after him there were stronger people...

Nagato is a mini GOD.. A mini GOD, He can shit on hashirama any day of the week, and trap him in a giant ball in the sky....
Hashi's attacks will do nothing to him since he has preta path , His ninjutsu can also be countered by
NAGATO'S MASTERY OF THE 5 ELEMENTS,




Get this through your head

Edo Madara, is NOTHING, like the madara hashi fought.... Madara , never had rinnegan, he never has moukoton, or all of that chakra, etc...
Agree!
 
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